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Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
That doesn't look like a meteor path at all: it banks too quickly upward. And it can't be a bug because it has a luminous and irregular trail. It appears to be approaching from a significant distance to me because of the flight path and its relative brightness as it gets closer and then banks upward to a nearly vertical trajectory.

So it's weird. I don't know what that is, but the evidence doesn't conform to a bug or a meteor explanation, imo.

I think it was mentioned that a bug can be illuminated by a light source as is shown by those that are confused with the alleged group of critters called "Rods". Rods are mostly bugs and birds which appear to be elongated due the slower speed of the camera lens.

It still looks like a bug to me and appears to be very close to the camera.
 
I think it was mentioned that a bug can be illuminated by a light source as is shown by those that are confused with the alleged group of critters called "Rods". Rods are mostly bugs and birds which appear to be elongated due the slower speed of the camera lens.

It still looks like a bug to me and appears to be very close to the camera.
I studied "rods" quite closely when they were debunked as bugs, and this looks nothing like that. The "rods" were simply comparatively long exposures of fast motion along two axes (the flight path of the insect, and the regular motion of its wings up and down) so they appeared to have a clear and regular structure: the body looks solid and elongated while the wings make an elegant sine-wave silhouette in each successive frame, which is readily identifiable. I looked for that signature in each frame of this video, and it's simply not there. This object is leaving a highly irregular luminous trail in its wake, just like a meteor does.

Here are a couple of shots if insects at night:

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Now here's a closeup of the object that we're looking at:

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Note that in this video, there is no elongated body in the middle or a regular sine wave motion of flapping wings. This looks like a luminous object leaving an irregular/smoky glowing trail in its wake. I've been looking at every night shot of an insect that I can find, and they all have the same distinct signature: a solid line down the middle and a regular sine wave where the wings are moving. This has neither. So it's not a bug, or at least there's no visual indication that conforms to a long exposure of a bug in motion.

But it's not a meteor either.

It also makes no sense to shine a light from the camera while filming the view of a city at night.

I assume there's a prosaic explanation, but the visual evidence doesn't seem to conform to either explanation that we've come up with so far.

I think the best thing to do is to ask people to find an image of an identified object at night which looks like the stills from this video. That should settle it.

Here's some footage of an insect flying by a camera with a light at night:

 
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Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
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Now here's a closeup of the object that we're looking at:

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I think the best thing to do is to ask people to find an image of an identified object at night which looks like the stills from this video. That should settle it.

Actually the lower image looks similar to the rod in the illumination level. It also appears to be similar in shape......but the TV filming is more out of focus. The difference of the path the bugs were taking was also different so its hard to compare properly.

I do agree it would settle it if you found it.....:Thumbsup:....I'd encourage it.
 
Actually the lower image looks similar to the rod in the illumination level. It also appears to be similar in shape......but the TV filming is more out of focus. The difference of the path the bugs were taking was also different so its hard to compare properly.

I do agree it would settle it if you found it.....:Thumbsup:....I'd encourage it.
Thanks, but no thanks. I'm not sure what it is, but one thing I'm sure that it's not, is interesting :)

When I was a kid I saw a pair of objects executing a zig-zag trajectory across the sky at high speed in broad daylight, and in perfect formation. That was interesting. Unfortunately I've never seen any video footage that even remotely resembles the totally inertia-defying motion of those objects, so I've never been able to show people the kind of motion we saw that day. I keep hoping that one day that will change. Apparently the Navy has clear footage of that kind of motion that they got with the gun camera of an interceptor jet during the Nimitz incidents, but I know they'll never release it, so it's up to some lucky rascal with a good video camera and quick reflexes.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
We're all wrong, apparently: it's not a bug because it clearly has a speckled luminous trail like a meteor, but it's not a meteor either because it significantly changes direction and exits the frame up top on a nearly vertical trajectory. So now I have no idea wth that thing is.
*quantum facepalm*
have you never seen JPEG artifacts on video?
it looks exactly like that, so 100% bug
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
It's not too fast to be a meteor - I've seen a lot of meteors in my time and this appears to move at roughly the average speed of one. And meteors can be extremely bright: I was in Pasadena one night going for a walk when a meteor the size of a school bus (I learned the size later, from the local tv news) burned up as it streaked across the sky, and briefly lit up the night like daytime...it was an awesome spectacle. Meteors come in a wide variety of luminosities.
but if its bright enough to be seen in a camera, its bright enough to be seen by people
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
I studied "rods" quite closely when they were debunked as bugs, and this looks nothing like that. The "rods" were simply comparatively long exposures of fast motion along two axes (the flight path of the insect, and the regular motion of its wings up and down) so they appeared to have a clear and regular structure: the body looks solid and elongated while the wings make an elegant sine-wave silhouette in each successive frame, which is readily identifiable. I looked for that signature in each frame of this video, and it's simply not there. This object is leaving a highly irregular luminous trail in its wake, just like a meteor does.
its the exact same phenomena as a rod but at a way smaller scale
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher

hmmm this one could be a bunch of things among them:
1: butterfly mid-flap
2: deflated balloon or sport ball
3: trash picked by the wind
for now its a UFO in the literal sense, but its definitely not anomalous

this is a quite weird video, it could be a weird shaped cloud, but it looks too angular for that, no idea what it is, but its certainly one of the better videos i have seen here
 

Gambeir

Celestial
We're all wrong, apparently: it's not a bug because it clearly has a speckled luminous trail like a meteor, but it's not a meteor either because it significantly changes direction and exits the frame up top on a nearly vertical trajectory. So now I have no idea wth that thing is.


It's not too fast to be a meteor - I've seen a lot of meteors in my time and this appears to move at roughly the average speed of one. And meteors can be extremely bright: I was in Pasadena one night going for a walk when a meteor the size of a school bus (I learned the size later, from the local tv news) burned up as it streaked across the sky, and briefly lit up the night like daytime...it was an awesome spectacle. Meteors come in a wide variety of luminosities.


You're right: it does turn. I should've watched the last few frames where it banks upward.

To get a better look, I had a closer look frame-by-frame. It clearly has a speckled trail, and it's not an optical artifact - it's a luminous trail that looks exactly like a meteor trail:

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Then I made a layered composite of multiple frames to map the flight path from start to finish, and bumped up the contrast a little bit:

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That doesn't look like a meteor path at all: it banks too quickly upward. And it can't be a bug because it has a luminous and irregular trail. It appears to be approaching from a significant distance to me because of the flight path and its relative brightness as it gets closer and then banks upward to a nearly vertical trajectory.

So it's weird. I don't know what that is, but the evidence doesn't conform to a bug or a meteor explanation, imo.

I agree, this is moving extremely fast, it seems to be creating jumps like some hypothetical wormhole like space drive. So almost like it jumps ahead a distance, almost like a sort of click, click, click ahead movement. I hear Clif High talk about this and saying he didn't think it would be something a human mind would come up with.
 
From what I understand, in theory you could spin a plasma in a contained electromagnetic ball which could be accelerated to relativistic speeds and thereby create a gravitational field.
It's a hugely more complicated problem than that. Even if you could accelerate charged particles to speeds very close to the speed of light in some kind of vortex, the centripetal acceleration would pull the particles away from the center and you'd lose containment long before you could generate a detectable gravitational field. Think about it: it takes the entire rest mass of the Earth to produce an acceleration of 1g. Trying to relativistically increase the mass of ions to that magnitude would require the energy equivalent of the Earth's mass, which is vastly beyond any foreseeable human technology.

And even if you could do such a thing, it wouldn't generate any directional motion, because the conservation of momentum still applies. The only way to get around that is by using an equal magnitude of negative energy, and if that actually exists, we only know of very tiny scales of negative energy, like we find with the Casimir effect. Alternatively, you could induce negative values in the pressure terms of the stress-energy tensor; recent theoretical work on photonic metamaterials has revealed tension (negative pressure) terms in these materials under photonic activation when they possess a triangular microstructure.. But those terms have a very small value - we have no idea how to make them so large that they surpass the positive rest mass of the material to produce a net negative inertial/gravitational mass.

In any case, we're confronted with a key requisite for ever achieving gravitational field propulsion: we have to figure out how to attenuate the coupling constant between mass-energy and spacetime, aka, the Einstein constant. Nobody really has any idea how to do that, although Robert L. Forward, and more recently Jack Sarfatti, have proposed some interesting ideas in that direction (though frankly I'm highly skeptical of Dr. Sarfatti's proposal for low-power warp drive).

It's probably safe to say that gravitational field propulsion is the most daunting problem in theoretical physics. I probably wouldn't even entertain the possibility of ever achieving it, if I hadn't seen it with my own two eyes as a child, when two aerial objects executed zig-zag maneuvers in perfect formation at thousands of miles per hour in the clear daytime sky, as the neighborhood kids and I stared awestruck by the performance.
 
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