Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

goblin

Noble
Clearly some people are still going to dismiss all this and let Gene be Gene.

He can't very well vent about the online stalkers and haters sharing his public bankruptcy filing info online without drawing more attention to it. Normally he likes to both attack and play the victim when something like this happens but his safest course is probably to publicly ignore it.

If he truly gets backed into a corner, I don't know, what does he do, say he had a drinking problem but now he's getting help? Can you possibly float him some cash til he is back on his feet? Etc.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
his safest course is probably to publicly ignore it.

That's what public figures do until the build up of evidence and facts of their activities become insurmountable...

I left a final post in that other thread before closing it, as I said in that post, leave it for the wayback machine lol...

USI Calgary's visit

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nivek

As Above So Below
Begging under false pretence makes it a lot worse than simply asking people for money inappropriately or a social faux pas - it is more akin to fraud if not outright theft.

The use of the official podcast email lists to send out such begging requests despite promising not to do so is also pretty bad and I have twice asked to be removed from such begging notices.

It seems to work for a while but then obviously Gene finds that nobody wants to voluntarily sign up for his begging email list so he just starts sending them to everyone on the Paracast list again.

I'm sure this contravenes some kind of spamming law.

I also think there are questions to be asked about Gene's practice in requesting strangers send him money via Paypal's "friends and family" feature.

Not sure if it is breaking any law but I suspect it is some kind of fraud to call total strangers friends and family - imagine someone begging on TV for funding doing the same thing with their viewers, purely in order to circumvent the standard fee.

Further the fact that he keeps renting homes, apartments etc with no intention of actually paying any rent himself is not only irresponsible it is downright immoral. How is it different from any other kind of theft?

Add on top of that the question of whether the 12 year career of begging has ever been declared as income to the IRS (- I'm pretty certain Gene himself is not a registered charity). I seriously doubt it.

The real scumbag icing on the top is the use of a natural disaster with a false promise of sending some money to help victims later - totally despicable.

I think even most career criminals would draw the line at that - what is next stealing from kids on the cancer ward of the local hospital?

I don't understand how anyone could sleep at night after doing something like that but I think it speaks to some strange kind of mental pathology where Gene has no insight at all into what he is doing.

Either that or he is a complete sociopath and doesn't actually care.

I'm starting to lean towards the latter as evidenced by his constant monitoring of the web for anyone who speaks out about what he is doing as well as his aggressive shutting down of any questions on the Paracast forums -that suggests that there is some insight.

Either way these are not harmless actions and anyone who dismisses them as such needs to seriously consider where their morality is.

Chris has become the second cohost to leave as a result of Gene's disgusting behaviour yet it seems there is always someone else to step in and become a co-presenter.

To those people I would say you are enabling (if not complicit) in behaviour which will likely turn out to be illegal.

Even if it isn't provably illegal it is quite immoral, not to mention disgusting, and will likely tarnish your reputation indelibly forever.


(PS - Sorry if I overused bold and italic formatting here I just wanted to make it as easy to read as possible as I know a wall of similar text can be easy to lose your place on and hard on the eyes to read.)

Well said...

Hello and welcome to AE...q37

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Black Angus

Honorable
He seems to want it both ways

Give me money because "multiple letters with detailed financial troubles"

My finances are nobody's business.....

If he had kept his financial issues private, then yes they would have remained his private business.
But he chose to make them public... and now public they are.

There is no point crying about milk you've deliberately spilled yourself Gene.

The "Haters" will keep digging, and the only endgame i see is when they strike paydirt and get the evidence they are looking for......................

At which point the "roof over your head" issue will be resolved by the Govt. Overcrowding they may have, but waiting lists ?..... No
 

nivek

As Above So Below
That's what public figures do until the build up of evidence and facts of their activities become insurmountable...

I left a final post in that other thread before closing it, as I said in that post, leave it for the wayback machine lol...

USI Calgary's visit

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Actually since there were about 3 pages in the Welcome to the forum thread previously, I used the title above and moved all the relevant posts to this thread and closed it:

USI Calgary's Visit

The Welcome to the Forum thread is reopened for future use...

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Black Angus

Honorable
Well now...... this opens a can of worms

https://www.keepandshare.com/doc5/23190/gs-bankr-pdf-317k?da=y&dnad=y

I understand making a false statement, concealing property, or obtaining money or property by fraud in connection with a
bankruptcy case can result in fines up to $250,000, or imprisonment for up to 20 years, or both. 18 U.S.C. §§ 152, 1341, 1519,
and 3571.

By law he should have disclosed his bankruptcy when he asked me to "invest" in his paracast business.......................
 
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UAPwatchdog

Honorable
Well now...... this opens a can of worms

https://www.keepandshare.com/doc5/23190/gs-bankr-pdf-317k?da=y&dnad=y

I understand making a false statement, concealing property, or obtaining money or property by fraud in connection with a
bankruptcy case can result in fines up to $250,000, or imprisonment for up to 20 years, or both. 18 U.S.C. §§ 152, 1341, 1519,
and 3571.

By law he should have disclosed his bankruptcy when he asked me to "invest" in his paracast business.......................

Remember this?

Does Gene Steinberg live in the lap of luxury? | The Tech Night Owl — Cutting-Edge Tech Commentary

Q: Why do you drive a luxury car if you’re broke?

A: I don’t drive a luxury vehicle. I have just one car, a used VW Jetta, which is that brand’s cheapest model. It was made cheaper because resale values have collapsed since the recent scandal over faulty emissions testing of diesel engines.

My Jetta, which has a gas engine, is relatively economical to run, getting up to 35 miles per gallon, and its reasonably spacious rear seat and large trunk make it ideal for use with Lyft and Uber.

In 2016 when he declared bankruptcy, he was driving a 2015 Volkswagen Passat. Original MSRP for that vehicle when Gene got it was around $21,340-$35,995

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/volkswagen/passat/2015

If he "downgraded" to a Jetta that year, original MSRP for that is $16,215 - $31,120.
 

Wade

Stare..... They are always staring
By law he should have disclosed his bankruptcy when he asked me to "invest" in his paracast business..................

Yes,Yes,Yes,Yes. In fact a bankruptcy stays on the public record for 10 years I believe. I would assume that it has to be divulged under the same by-laws(?) within the same time frame.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
Update from news@theparacast.com titled "Still on hold!":

Hi,

Barbara and I have been stuck in a motel for over a month, paying for a few days at a time as cash is available.

I have to extend the reservation by midday today, Arizona time, which I have just a few hours to pay up or leave.

Some of the online stalkers claim I am deliberately getting myself evicted but they can’t explain why I’d subject myself and my wife to such stress. It’s a strange world out there.

In the meantime, my search for a new home is at a standstill for the time being, because I’m not yet able to pay for a new place, including the move-in, and still cover the motel and other expenses.

But I am working hard to boost income to cover all the extra expenses.

Can you help?

If you haven’t joined The Paracast+ and The Tech Night Owl LIVE+, please subscribe and help support my shows.

Or you can send a donation to help me survive and get past this nightmare.

If you can send a donation, please go to: Send Money, Pay Online or Set Up a Merchant Account - PayPal, login and use the Send to friends and family option. Enter my email address, gene@technightowl.com, and click or tap Next to continue the transaction.

PayPal now has a way to do instant transfers to a bank account for a 1% fe, so it’s the best way to help.

But I can also accept donations through Facebook Messenger and Apple Pay Cash via the Messages app. I’ve also established a Facebook fundraiser, but it takes at least 7 days for payment to be sent to my bank.

If you’re not able to send a donation, feel free to forward this message to someone who might assist.

If you have any questions about my living situation, please let me know.

To receive regular updates, please sign up here: Gene Steinberg's Personal Messages

Peace,
Gene
 

goblin

Noble
Update from news@theparacast.com titled "Still on hold!":

To my surprise he omitted his appeal for legal help from that update, yet still mentioned "stalkers".

It's amusing to see Gene of all people declare this a strange world. Of course in effect he IS deliberately getting himself evicted. That's what happens when you don't pay your rent. He must know this?

And yes Gene you undoubtedly are subjecting yourself and your wife to every bit of this stress. I don't relish the thought of that but neither can I see you as not responsible for it.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
I notice that Steinberg tends not to post his financial situation on the Paracast website these days. He probably does this because he catches hell from the posters. Instead he makes announcements on the TechNight Owl Live. Of the past ten Facebook posts of his, seven involve his ‘financial crisis.’

When will this guy learn? People are so turned off by this crap.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
To my surprise he omitted his appeal for legal help from that update, yet still mentioned "stalkers".

It's amusing to see Gene of all people declare this a strange world. Of course in effect he IS deliberately getting himself evicted. That's what happens when you don't pay your rent. He must know this?

And yes Gene you undoubtedly are subjecting yourself and your wife to every bit of this stress. I don't relish the thought of that but neither can I see you as not responsible for it.
I wonder how Steinberg works this situation. He keeps getting evicted from his rentals and yet he managed to move to a more upscale location. Are the rental people not checking up on his financials? It is a big red flag if you would ask for the past few locations he lived at.
 

goblin

Noble
But don't worry everyone! There will be a new episode of the Paracast this week, featuring an interview with Nick Redfern, talking about very important new developments I'm sure.

Yes, Gene and Barbara have been living in a motel for over a month, where they are allegedly struggling to come up with money every couple of days to extend their stay. (and yet still saving for a new apartment? who leases to this pair?)

Priorities. The show must go on. I say again, this might be admirable if it weren't so insane.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
But don't worry everyone! There will be a new episode of the Paracast this week, featuring an interview with Nick Redfern, talking about very important new developments I'm sure.

Yes, Gene and Barbara have been living in a motel for over a month, where they are allegedly struggling to come up with money every couple of days to extend their stay. (and yet still saving for a new apartment? who leases to this pair?)

Priorities. The show must go on. I say again, this might be admirable if it weren't so insane.
Let’s just say that Steinberg is paying $60 a day to stay in a motel. That would be approximately $1800 a month. He could almost cover 3 months rent with that amount of money. Can he not trick someone into renting an apartment out to him?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I noticed there's been no activity on paracast from the illustrious new admin Gene appointed...Early this morning looking back on yesterday's drama when Gene's shill visited here or maybe better put, was sent here, it is obvious to me now his whole intention was to disrupt things here as much as he could knowing at some point I would pull the plug on that campaign of his...I apologize if I sound cynical but the man may be intelligent but he has no dignity to stoop to the level he played yesterday...Also some of you may not have seen another thread in the Science section but the shill went right after Thomas...During the afternoon yesterday whilst I was kind of watching his activities the shill went to the Funny Pics thread and was clicking awesome on all my posts there, perhaps as a diversionary tactic thinking I would let my guard down and think he was okay...I have to admit I was optimistic when he first joined but as yesterday progressed it becoming clearer how it was going to end...

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Standingstones

Celestial
I noticed there's been no activity on paracast from the illustrious new admin Gene appointed...Early this morning looking back on yesterday's drama when Gene's shill visited here or maybe better put, was sent here, it is obvious to me now his whole intention was to disrupt things here as much as he could knowing at some point I would pull the plug on that campaign of his...I apologize if I sound cynical but the man may be intelligent but he has no dignity to stoop to the level he played yesterday...Also some of you may not have seen another thread in the Science section but the shill went right after Thomas...During the afternoon yesterday whilst I was kind of watching his activities the shill went to the Funny Pics thread and was clicking awesome on all my posts there, perhaps as a diversionary tactic thinking I would let my guard down and think he was okay...I have to admit I was optimistic when he first joined but as yesterday progressed it becoming clearer how it was going to end...

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I had to wonder when I saw Randall Murphy arrive. Was he being sent to scout out what was being written about Steinberg? As soon as he said he was neither for or against Steinberg, I knew what his game was. Murphy has his own website and he is now co-host and administrator for the Paracast. Why does he need to be a member of another paranormal website? The answer seems clear now. To report back to Steinberg what is being said about him.
 
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Wade

Stare..... They are always staring
fwiw, and it's not worth anything, I did shoot him a e mail basically asking wtf? I offered my opinion with the rather cantankerous Don still purging people that offends him in the slightest it would be best to clear the air with nivek and others
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
I noticed there's been no activity on paracast from the illustrious new admin Gene appointed...Early this morning looking back on yesterday's drama when Gene's shill visited here or maybe better put, was sent here, it is obvious to me now his whole intention was to disrupt things here as much as he could knowing at some point I would pull the plug on that campaign of his...I apologize if I sound cynical but the man may be intelligent but he has no dignity to stoop to the level he played yesterday...Also some of you may not have seen another thread in the Science section but the shill went right after Thomas...During the afternoon yesterday whilst I was kind of watching his activities the shill went to the Funny Pics thread and was clicking awesome on all my posts there, perhaps as a diversionary tactic thinking I would let my guard down and think he was okay...I have to admit I was optimistic when he first joined but as yesterday progressed it becoming clearer how it was going to end...

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It seems his only purpose is to go around trying to minimise what Gene has been doing and to try to make what are established facts appear more muddy - a kind of damage control.

This might even have had some effect had Gene only done these things once and then amended his ways.

Of course there is no way he will succeed because Gene will continue with his garbage begging and digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself, both reputationally and ultimately legally.

What I don't understand is why any sane person would want to assist in this way as their own reputation (at the very least) will likely go down with the sinking ship that is Steinberg and the Paracast.

If they are really unlucky they could get ensnared in any legal action that occurs too. This is why I was surprised that Chris took so long to actually leave.

Anyway if someone wants to commit reputational suicide for so little that is their business.
 

goblin

Noble
It seems his only purpose is to go around trying to minimise what Gene has been doing and to try to make what are established facts appear more muddy - a kind of damage control.

This might even have had some effect had Gene only done these things once and then amended his ways.

Of course there is no way he will succeed because Gene will continue with his garbage begging and digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself, both reputationally and ultimately legally.

What I don't understand is why any sane person would want to assist in this way as their own reputation (at the very least) will likely go down with the sinking ship that is Steinberg and the Paracast.

If they are really unlucky they could get ensnared in any legal action that occurs too. This is why I was surprised that Chris took so long to actually leave.

Anyway if someone wants to commit reputational suicide for so little that is their business.

I gotta say, I am not at all familiar with USI Calgary, but ultimately his "I'm sure we can discuss something more interesting, and if I find I've actually walked into the den of the devil who has used his mystical powers to deceive naïve innocent little me, I'll be sure to let you know you were right." rubbed me the wrong way. This isn't cute stuff, please don't be dismissive.

At the same time I'm sure he's an adult and can make his own choices. And honestly I didn't want to make him feel unwelcome here. I don't know him.

Like you say it's his reputation. Others can't save it for him.
 
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