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Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I hate to say it, but I think the world population truly is too great to be sustainable. In order for humanity to survive for centuries to come with an acceptable level of quality of life, the population needs to be much smaller.

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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I hate to say it, but I think the world population truly is too great to be sustainable. In order for humanity to survive for centuries to come with an acceptable level of quality of life, the population needs to be much smaller.

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Normally I'd fully agree with you, But I see Wealth and greed as a far larger problem than overpopulation. There is enough food and money and medicine on earth right now to feed and medicate every person on earth, It's the distribution of wealth and resources that is the true limitation. If we must I mean absolutely must begin controlling the population. Then let us get rid of those people who horde all the resources first, see how quickly things would get better worldwide. Just, My op.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
That's a theme that also came up in the movie. As I recall, Joseph Cotten's character was a member of the wealthy elite who shielded himself from all of society's problems through his money. He bought concubines, body guards, luxury apartments, etc.
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Civilization will change, but not end.
Human population will be suddenly reduced by 50% or greater in a single day, but life will go on and we will endure.
A big space rock is on it's way and sometime after there will be a war, but again we will get through it all, changed but still mostly human.
 

michael59

Celestial
Civilization will change, but not end.
Human population will be suddenly reduced by 50% or greater in a single day, but life will go on and we will endure.
A big space rock is on it's way and sometime after there will be a war, but again we will get through it all, changed but still mostly human.


I hope I don't live to see it. If I am still alive, I hope that rock lands right on top of me.
 

AD1184

Celestial
Just because a computer model predicted something does not mean anything, and it is not in itself a compelling forecast of planetary doom. The results of any model are dependent on assumptions, and guesswork, made by the modeller. Interestingly, the narrator of the ABC report in the Youtube video says at about 0:42 that "[the programme] doesn't pretend to be a precise forecast".

Moreover, any sensible model of a complex system like the world economy does not usually predict only a single outcome, but usually a range of outcomes with varying outputs dependent on a range input variables and parameters. Even then, it must be taken with a grain of salt.

We must also ignore all developments that have happened in the interim. There is now a long history of new data not available in 1973, important new events, new global environmental legislation and regulations, and new technologies and modelling methods. What do they have to say on the matter?

To draw any conclusion from this model, it should be critically evaluated and compared with more recent work. Saying that the computer model's predictions are on track because globally there is more pollution now than there was then is fatuous. Anyone who read a newspaper in 1973 could have predicted that. It says that 'quality of life' has been in decline. That is true enough in western nations, but the cause is nothing to do with pollution, or declining resources, but the concensus of economic policy developed since the 1980s in those nations which leaves those in the bottom two-thirds of society left out. I think the global average of quality of life has been increasing though, in spite of increased pollution.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I hope I don't live to see it. If I am still alive, I hope that rock lands right on top of me.
I was going to hit "like" but then I realized it would sound like I wanted you to be crushed to death! a0039
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
This may not be relevant to this thread, but I've been reading a lot about the current situation in China.

Many factories are grossly inefficient, thousands of recently built apartment buildings sit empty as ghost towns, and many of the more than 250 million people who moved from small farming towns to the big cities now want to move back. Wages are rising dramatically and China is losing many of its low cost manufacturing contracts to places like India, Vietnam, and even some countries in Eastern Europe.

There has never been an example in modern history where a centrally-planned economy has maintained long term growth and stability. I worry about what could happen if things really go down hill in China. It could be the biggest social and economic crisis the world has ever seen.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Soylent Green was Edward G. Robinson's last film. His name in the movie was Sol short for Solomon which is an anagram for Sol/Sun Moon. He was also in The Ten Commandments with Charlton Heston in 1956.
Soylent Green (1973) - IMDb
Soylent Green - Wikipedia
“Soylent Green”1973 | The Pop History Dig
The Ten Commandments (1956) - IMDb

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOV8mBjHHYg

I watched part of Soylent Green last night. There was a scene where two large books were placed on a table and on the cover it said 2015 - 2019. I presume they were some kind of census books.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
I watched part of Soylent Green last night. There was a scene where two large books were placed on a table and on the cover it said 2015 - 2019. I presume they were some kind of census books.
Here's the cover of one book. The movie was release on May 9, 1973.
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Toroid

Founding Member
Here's some trivia from the movie.
Soylent Green (1973) - Trivia - IMDb
A sign saying "Tuesday is Soylent Green Day" appears in the film. Some people suggest that this inspired the name of the rock band Green Day. The font on the store-front window matches that used on Green Day's Uno, Dos, and Tres albums.

The film was the third and final one Charlton Heston and Edward G. Robinson made together.

In a scene leading to the riot where Soylent Green was being distributed, an exasperated woman coming out of the line said: "They gave me a quarter of a kilo! I stood in line the whole lousy day and they gave me a quarter of a kilo!" This suggests that America had switched to using metric system measuring weights in kilogram. America is presently using the imperial system.

Principal photography for the New York skyline was shot in 1970, before construction on the World Trade Center was finished. Due to this, the towers aren't featured in any shots of the skyline. Therefore the film inadvertently predicts 9/11 by showing a future New York City without the towers.

Lincoln Kilpatrick, who played the priest in the above movie, starred opposite Charlton Heston 2 years earlier in "The Omega Man."
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Here's some trivia from the movie.
Soylent Green (1973) - Trivia - IMDb
A sign saying "Tuesday is Soylent Green Day" appears in the film. Some people suggest that this inspired the name of the rock band Green Day. The font on the store-front window matches that used on Green Day's Uno, Dos, and Tres albums.
According to Wikipedia the band name Green Day came from their love of cannabis.
Green Day - Wikipedia
From the second paragraph in the History section.
Before 1,000 Hours was released, the group dropped the name Sweet Children; according to Livermore, this was done to avoid confusion with another local band Sweet Baby.[6] The band adopted the name Green Day, due to the members' fondness for cannabis
 

Toroid

Founding Member
According to Wikipedia the band name Green Day came from their love of cannabis.
Green Day - Wikipedia
From the second paragraph in the History section.
Three album names of theirs I find interesting are Nimrod, Warning & American Idiot which is an anagram for Radiation Mice.
Green Day Music - Album & Song List
The Internet Anagram Server : Anagrams for: American Idiot<br><div style="color:#333333;font-size:10pt;font-weight:normal;">Make <a href="animation.html" style="color:#333333;font-size:10pt;">animations</a> of these anagrams</div>
 

Toroid

Founding Member
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