UFO Hoaxes

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
and naturally finding something extraordinary in the ordinary.

Wrong. As I described above, Randelsham lighthouse had a back wall that prevented beam from reaching into the forest. Lighthouse beams scan towards the sea, not towards the farmland.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Wrong. As I described above, Randelsham lighthouse had a back wall that prevented beam from reaching into the forest. Lighthouse beams scan towards the sea, not towards the farmland.

I agree, this particular lighthouse does not have the ability to shine its light into farmland or forest areas, it has a shield blocking it from lighting at 360 degrees...

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Rick Hunter

Celestial
As far as the lighthouse goes, I assume that it would be in operation every night. Why would the people on the base all of a sudden mistake it for something else on a couple of nights in particular?
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Like a polygraph, voice analysis is not 100% accurate. In any event, it won't fill the gaping holes in his story.

Never said it was......but it backs up the lack of details, gaps along with his body language.

Seldom does one piece of evidence confirm an event 100%......in court it would be admissible......as a piece of evidence.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
That I do not know. Everything I have read indicates that the lights were visible from the grounds of the base itself, which prompted security personnel to investigate outside the fence.
 

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
I don't think I have the ability to edit my posts here, but I meant to start the video of the Ed Walters debunking to start at about 11:51 to get specifically where Ed is busted.
 

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
I'd like to see (if anyone knows where it's at - please let me know) a diagram of the Bentwaters base, where the lighthouse is, AND the way the lighthouse is aligned. There has to be PART of the light house that is visible to PART of the base. The back of the lighthouse cannot align so that 100% of base personnel cannot see it. Otherwise, we are back to these amazing coincidences; where a flying saucer's blinking strobe light is in perfect sync with the closest lighthouse to it - but yet, is not the lighthouse?

Just like the Coyne helicopter. What are the chances that the engineers for a flying saucer from another planets chooses the exact same lights that are mandated by the FAA here on Earth? Red on the left side, green on the right and then white?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I'd like to see (if anyone knows where it's at - please let me know) a diagram of the Bentwaters base, where the lighthouse is, AND the way the lighthouse is aligned.

I posted this above...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Wrong. As I described above, Randelsham lighthouse had a back wall that prevented beam from reaching into the forest. Lighthouse beams scan towards the sea, not towards the farmland

Fair enough.

I spent some time digging through the National Lighthouse Board's site (that because I had listed to a podcast about the Flannan Isles disappearance) and while they publish a lot of stuff I failed to find anything relevant to what we are talking about here, except to confirm that each does have unique characteristics. It's possible that what I heard on that program is because it was located on an island.

Obviously something instigated the MP's reaction and I do wonder that even if the lighthouse were visible - to whatever degree if any - exactly why it suddenly became an issue that night. What I did do is listen to the audio tape and I hear very excited men who sound (to me) to be something less than objective and are looking at broken branches and goop on trees but I don't hear any 'holy crap look at that thing over there' . And their reaction 'there it is again' seems to coincide with the lighthouse operating not too far away. IMO they went looking for something jacked on adrenaline and misidentified a condition they may never have noticed before.

Wouldn't an objective analysis at least consider the lighthouse as a possibility? Some atmospheric condition? The timing of the 'there it is' does seem awfully coincidental. This isn't debunking - I just don't think that shield rules the lighthouse out entirely. Extraordinary claims should require extraordinary proof.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
As far as Randelsham lighthouse is concerned, not just that back wall was preventing beam from shining beam on the farmland behind. That documentary's crew found that lighthouse was out of a commission, when Randelsham thing happened.

I am at work, so I can't dig through YT now, but if somebody has time, it's those 4 guys: old guy, outdoor guy, scency guy and regular dude team. Maybe it's Discovery channel?
 

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
Ok, I see the diagram now. But what I was asking about specifically was at what angle is the back wall of the lighthouse at in relation to Bentwaters? Not just the lighthouse's position in general, but specifically the back wall. I guess an aerial view that shows the angle of the lighthouse wall is what I'm looking for. I'm not refuting there is a back wall to the lighthouse. But it seems that there has to be SOME part of that light that is visible from SOME part of the base. It's almost hard to imagine that no matter where you are on the base, that the light is blocked by that back wall.
 

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
I wonder if Dr. Bruce Maccabee would admit to the cases he's been wrong on up until now? I know he believes Guardian, Gulf Breeze, Paul Trent and then the light from a computer mouse in a darkened room as to be real flying saucers.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
One thing I like about being .... slightly addicted to .... AE is that is got me to to dig around for information on cases a little deeper than I ever cared to in the past.

Ian Ridpath did an excellent write up on Rendlesham and there is just way too much detail to copy & paste here so take a look: The Rendlesham Forest UFO case - Ian Ridpath
Well written with references and an analysis of the tape.

As for that pesky lighthouse, the local police noted it as the only light they saw so not only were they aware of it but it must've been on. I had never heard they were on the scene and somehow their unexciting report failed to make it into the popular version of events.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Has anybody heard of David Adair? Has he been discredited, but on serious level?

I don't know what to make of him. His body lanquage is of a pathological egocentric, but some of things he said make same sense.
 
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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Just like the Coyne helicopter. What are the chances that the engineers for a flying saucer from another planets chooses the exact same lights that are mandated by the FAA here on Earth? Red on the left side, green on the right and then white?
this elusive cargo plane still hasn't been identified
 
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