Political Ideologies

Merle

Honorable
Logic and Reason may claim authority of science, Faith and Hope may claim authority of religion, what lays claim to politics?...Is political ideology nothing more than a conspiracy driven train, that uses the situations of people to make manifest its agenda or idea?...If so then what of the many unexamined assumptions that are sometimes called optimism?...

As usual the 19th Century philosopher
Friedrich Nietzsche pulls no punches and shows the truth:
There you go nivek...

This is the second time in about a week someone has made reference to you regards Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) and his philosophies...

Now what does that say about the big picture of things? lol...
 

AlienView

Noble
There you go nivek...

This is the second time in about a week someone has made reference to you regards Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) and his philosophies...

Now what does that say about the big picture of things? lol...

Only because Nivek brought up political ideologies and their real motivations - Nietzsche makes it simple
- If you assume, and history seems to show, a continuous power struggle - All motivations can be summed up
as 'the will to power' - And all other 'reasons' behind political movements throughout history are just that
- Justifications to seize power, influence, and control.

I'm not saying Nivek is driven by this - I assume he wants the truth - And like him or not
Nietzsche was the master of cutting through the BS and showing the truth.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
There you go nivek...

This is the second time in about a week someone has made reference to you regards Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) and his philosophies...

Now what does that say about the big picture of things? lol...

Well, it tells me that my perspective is possibly similar or I am being schooled...lol
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I'm not saying Nivek is driven by this - I assume he wants the truth - And like him or not
Nietzsche was the master of cutting through the BS and showing the truth.

You assume correctly, it's sad though that many today are so politically blinded and party locked that they accept any tripe the politicians and political propaganists feed to them lol...
 

dr wu

Noble
You assume correctly, it's sad though that many today are so politically blinded and party locked that they accept any tripe the politicians and political propaganists feed to them lol...
Oh...but our new leader says he's not a politician.....so don't worry.

;)
 

notdej

Honorable
Perhaps we should better define what a democracy is...:Thumbsdown:
I guess a democracy is : 'you can vote for whoever you want'

the funny site of it is: 'but only out of those who can afford to campaign'

'democracy' a lovely word> for a few!
 

dr wu

Noble
As far as I know there has never been a 100% true democracy at least in so-called modern times, (maybe some old tribal groups, etc.)....which was my point to begin with in that we have a 'representative democracy'...this is exactly what a (Re)-public means. Our leaders (reps) are democratically elected.
And in some cases certain decisions are direct democracy when we have referendums in various cities and states.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
- Justifications to seize power, influence, and control.

The migration that's been going on in Europe, the liberal socialists justify changing the entire cultural status of Europe to hold on to power...Both shortsighted and ignorant logic if it's so...
 

notdej

Honorable
The migration that's been going on in Europe, the liberal socialists justify changing the entire cultural status of Europe to hold on to power...Both shortsighted and ignorant logic if it's so...
it's not shortsighted to those who hold the power.... to those in power it's the logical thing to do
 
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