U.S. Coastguard Acushnet UFO Incident - Removal of Naval Logbooks.

karl 12

Noble
'It was an old ship, so I wasn't overly freaked until I saw what everyone was staring up at. Prototypical Saucer with lights hovering at 190 degrees to port, and at 1000 yards elevated'.


This case looks to be quite an interesting one and involves claims of a daylight, close range sighting of a flying, grey, domed, saucer shaped object by crew aboard the U.S. Coastguard Cutter Acushnet on maneuvers between Miami and Cuba in 1977.


UFO Hovering At 190 Degrees To Port Plays Havoc Aboard Cutter Acushnet In 1977


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I know I have personally heard many stories from servicemen and woman who along with their shipmates have been witness to some unusual crafts which were maneuvering in ways that are not known here on earth.

Message: I saw a UFO in 1977 while serving on the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Acushnet. It messed with our communications and compasses, and was redirected by 2 Phantoms which appeared suddenly. The Log Book was removed. Can you say cover up?
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HBCC UFO Research Note: Here is another example of what I believe to be a cover up as the witnesses mentions
Well, Sir, I was a (removed by HBCC due to it giving away who this person was/is). I was coming on watch when the General Quarters alarm went off. We lost steering while towing a Giant new "Meteorological" buoy toward Cuba. (Get it?) As I entered the Bridge I was also informed that the electronics and auxiliary were malfunctioning.

It was an old ship, so I wasn't overly freaked until I saw what everyone was staring up at. Prototypical Saucer with lights hovering at 190 degrees to port, and at 1000 yards elevated. The tow line was limp, and the buoy shrouded in a bizarre fog. Two Phantoms sped toward it at an angle above/abeam and it moved at incredible speed vertical zig-zag until out of sight about 4 seconds .
After a brief meeting in the C/O's cabin, the log I was keeping was replaced, and I was told by a 1st class P.O. who moments before sounded like he was crapping bricks from his bow station ("Get me someone else down here!"). That it never happened, and if I know what's good for me I won't say anything more about it. Detailed enough?

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Lots of different aspects to this testimony including a bizarre fog, E.M. effects (loss of steering, engine and electronics), highly unusual UFO flight characteristics and pursuing F4 Phantom Navy jets but what stood out for me were the subsequent orders never to discuss the incident and removal of naval log books (which isn't the first time this has been reported).
Below is quite an in depth interview with one of the witnesses where he goes into more detail about the object (red and green undulating lights); how there was no noise and the atmosphere around it 'vibrated'; how the ship's compass was spinning '360" and how all the ship's functions restarted once the UFO departed.





Witness claims that during ship operations, while towing some type of buoy (possibly and electronic functioning buoy) per normal Coast Guard vessel operations, early in the morning after daylight, on some date between 1976 and 1977, the ship he was on lost all electric power, lost its engines and the tow line attached to the buoy was no longer visible. He states the compass on the bridge was also was gyrating 360 degrees.
The witness states the ship (USCGC Acushnet - WAGO 167), went to General Quarters and as he ran up the ladder towards the bridge outside the ship to his assigned duty post, he looked aft and noticed a fog-like cloud just off the stern of the ship cloaking to buoy that was being towed and also noticed a grey hovering disc-shaped craft approximately 500 feet in the air just behind the ship.
If you or someone you know witnessed this event please contact Florida MUFON at Florida.mufon@gmail.com
 

karl 12

Noble
Other UFO testimony about the removal of Naval logbooks / Do not discuss:


Feb 1963 Royal Navy North Atlantic Fleet:

After Tom witnessed the senior officer enter the UFO observations in the radar log book, their shift ended. Radar room personnel on the early morning watch ate breakfast and then turned in. Probably sometime between 1200 and 1300, Tom said he was awakened and ordered to report to the ward room, along with the five radar and sonar operators on his shift that morning.
The senior officer proceeded to go over the events of that morning, asking questions about the radar-sonar observations.He told the six men that their conversations were being taped and explained that until more was known about the unknown target, they were to remain silent about what they had seen. "Gentlemen," the officer said, "we will remember that we have all signed the Official Secrets Act (or words to that effect)." Although there were no threats, the implication was clear that to divulge anything to anyone concerning the tracking of the UFO would be considered a breach of security.
I asked Tom if the meeting might have been part of a general order carried out on other ships in the fleet as well in connection with the UFO incident. He responded that he didn't know if it was or not.
The witness recollected that he was in the ward room about 10 minutes. He said he never heard anything further about the unknown target.
When Preston came on duty once again at 2400 hours, he said he was surprised to discover that a "spanking new book" had replaced the radar log used the previous morning.



USS Reeves:

All of a sudden I lost Sonar Contact like it was never there, but CIC still had it at last bearing with an abrupt positive altitude change. The chatter was look at the size of that thing. I went outside through the sonar door on the Port Side and visually saw a large moonlike shape that flew upward over the ship at a 60 degree angle and disappeared into the sky in seconds. I heard no noise from the object when it went over us. I saw a full moon that night on the other side of the ship, but it remained fairly constant give or take a few ship rolls.
When we pulled into port a few weeks later, all records in the Bridge, CIC, and Sonar logs about that time were torn out. Whoever tore them out made one error, the pen imprint on the next page was still there. No one spoke of the incident again



USS Reclaimer:

The F-14 went to full afterburner right off the deck, pulling a rooster-tail7 behind it. It rattled the ship severely as it went by. This USO thing pulled easily ahead of the jet, crossed the horizon in seconds while underwater... no visible wake. It just... I mean this thing was FAST. Well, we just stood there. Wow, you know... what do ya say. We speculated about what it was. Guam told us it was a classified matter not to be reported or discussed.



Carrier USS Kearsarge:

The cameraman was able to get some photos, not sure how many, before they all took off almost straight up and out of sight.
The cameraman turned the film into to his superior officer and was told to not ever mention it. My dad said he and his friend were asked about the incident by their NCO and also told not to ever talk about it.



Submarine repair ship 'The Volga' ,October 7, 1977.

"Were such reports made public?"
Azhazha shook his head no. "At the time, naturally, they were classified top secret. Now we have a more open attitude in this country. We are able to talk about such things. On a few rare occasions I did publish some UFO information, but I paid for it under Leonid Brezhnev.The official reaction was very harsh, very negative. My career suffered as a result, and the directorship of a scientific group was taken away from me."



Captain of Navy R5D aircraft,February 8,1951:

Crew members and passengers witnessed UFO emerging from the Atlantic ocean:
When we landed at Argentia (Newfoundland), we were met by intelligence officers. The types of questions they asked us were like Henry Ford asking about the Model T.
You got the feeling that they were putting words in your mouth.
It was obvious that there had been many sightings in the same area, and most of the observers did not let the cat out of the bag openly. When we arrived in the United States, we had to make a full report to Navy Intelligence.
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I found out a few months later that Gander radar did track the object in excess of 1800 mph".



USS Waldron,1968-Near Puerto Rico:

They were tracking two bright lights, that didn't answer up to IFF – they weren't enemy, friend, foe or commercial aircraft. And were flying at speeds in excess of 400 knots and making turns at right angles. Nothing we knew of could do this but they did.
We were on an operation called Racer Run near Puerto Rico. Ship officials supposedly logged a report to Washington but we never heard anymore about it.
I've told several people about this and many acted as if I had 3 heads, but I have witnesses and evidence: there were about 20 in the 2 bridge watch sections, the combat watch sections (CIC), the ships log and the report sent to Washington.
 

karl 12

Noble
Continued


Sonar operator Account -British Destroyer Warship:

One of Sanderson's sources stated that no less than 13 craft recorded in their logs that their sonars had tracked this object. Allegedly, the unknown target continued to be tracked for four days as it maneuvered down to depths of 27,000 feet! (This must have been in the vicinity of the Atlantic's deepest point -- 28,374 feet below sea level -- in the Puerto Rico Trench.)
If the above story is true, nothing of known earthly origin can travel underwater at such speeds or maneuver at such depths. The fastest nuclear subs can attain 45 knots (52 miles per hour) and dive to around 3,000 feet. The bathyscaphe Trieste, with a specially constructed pressure-resistant hull, descended to a record 35,820 feet in 1960. However, it was incapable of maneuvering about.
It is unfortunate that more than 21 years elapsed before the Preston case reached the attention of a UFO investigator. We have here yet another example of government UFO secrecy at work--this time a foreign nation, Great Britain. Largely due to his apprehension over potential repercussions if he revealed his experience,Tom felt compelled to keep his knowledge of the event to himself. Since it hadn't occurred to him at the time that the radar log notes would be removed,he had only his memory to rely upon during our interviews



USS John F. Kennedy

So we exited the Communications Center and went to the catwalk on the port side of the ship on the edge of the flight deck and we observed a large glowing sphere over the ship. It was hard to decide what size this thing was because there was no perspective. It was late in the evening. The sun had gone down, it was twilight, but it looked huge…
After that, I talked to a few shipmate friends that I had on the ship. One in particular worked in the radar department and he was on watch during the incident. He told me that all the radar screens were glowing- and then nothing. They couldn’t detect anything on radar. We stayed up most of the night talking about it.
We heard that the compasses were not working on the bridge and that the radar navigational system had gone offline…
A few days later the Commanding Officer and the Executive Officer came on the closed circuit television system that we had on board. It was the only way that they could address the crew of 5,000. He [the Commanding Officer] looked at the camera - and I will never forget this - and he said, "I would like to remind the crew that certain events that take place on board a major naval combative vessel are considered classified and should not be discussed with anyone without a need to know." And that was all he said.


USS Edenton

During one of my scans of the night sky, out of know where, four red circular lights appeared. The lights where hundreds of yards apart from each other and formed a square.
After relaying the contact information a second time, the four lights, in a flash, darted towards the horizon amazingly linkfast. The lower two lights in the square went first, with the top two lights following directly behind them in a curved swooshing motion and there was no sound.
Next, after a half hour had passed since the sighting, the radiation detection system (gamma roentgen meter) on the bridge started making a loud clicking sound. At first, no one seemed to know what was making this sound then a very loud bell went off notifying us as to what was going on, we were being radiated.
The captain stated not to log the instance concerning the radiation exposure and left the bridge. During the rest of my watch duty that night, no officer or enlisted person spoke of what happened, and also acted liked nothing happened.


Links:

WaterUFO - Master List

Introduction to the First Update of the Catalogue of UFOs/USOs Reported by Seagoing Services
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Removal and replacement of log books certainly seems to indicate a cover up in my opinion...Still reading through the material and links...
 

karl 12

Noble
Removal and replacement of log books certainly seems to indicate a cover up in my opinion...Still reading through the material and links...

Certainly smells a bit fishy to me mate and below is some more missing naval logbook testimony (apparently it was 'blown overboard by a gust of wind').



The files further detail an alleged UFO sighting by the crew of HMS Manchester off the coast of Norway and how the logbook recording the incident could not be recovered.
Dr David Clarke, author of the “The UFO files” and senior lecturer in journalism at Sheffield Hallam University, said that following the introduction of the Freedom of Information Act, requests for details about sightings have increased dramatically.

Mr Clarke said: “I was one of the MoD’s most ‘persistent correspondents’ and eventually persuaded MoD and other government departments to release their information on this perplexing and controversial subject.
“You can see from the files that I wasn’t the only one interested in the subject, with the phenomenon discussed at the highest level of government right across the globe.”

UFO enthusiast Russ Kellet, 47, says it’s “convenient” that the ship’s logbook covering the period when men on HMS Manchester and other Royal Navy craft reported seeing the unidentified object went missing.

He said: “If somebody has got it (the logbook) on their desk and then somebody official comes in and they’re talking and it just goes then it’s been lost. So they’re not lying. It’s just gone to another department and they can’t find it so it’s been conveniently been misplaced.”

Ministry of Defence investigators suggested the ship’s log covering the period was “blown overboard by a gust of wind”.


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Cheers!
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nivek

As Above So Below
Certainly smells a bit fishy to me mate and below is some more missing naval logbook testimony (apparently it was 'blown overboard by a gust of wind').

Cheers!
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How convenient, must have been some gust of wind!...lol
 

3FEL9

Islander
Im browsing through the WaterUFO master list. I think the UFO/USOs use the oceans as a safe haven from ppl on land.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Im browsing through the WaterUFO master list. I think the UFO/USOs use the oceans as a safe haven from ppl on land.

I agree, underwater seems to be a safe place for them...
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Great thread Karl.
One wonders at what volume of data the government and all it's departments have we have not been allowed to see?
The act of whisking away data about UFO encounters has been practiced for a very long time it seems.
 

karl 12

Noble
Im browsing through the WaterUFO master list. I think the UFO/USOs use the oceans as a safe haven from ppl on land.

That is indeed a great list mate and hats off to Carl Feindt for compiling it.

There's also two good books on this subject - one by zoologist Ivan T Sandersone called 'Invisible Residents'.


An almost forgotten gem of UFOlogy...Sanderson reminds us of the hard yet oft-forgotten fact of UFOlogy, which is, most UFOs seem inextricably connected with water - They are very frequently seen entering and leaving water, moving through or above water, and otherwise interacting with water. Sanderson explores all the implications of this, leading him to postulate that most UFOs are actually USOs - Unidentified Submerged Objects, and their pilots, these other intelligences (OINTS), may have evolved alongside of humanity but under the sea.

And another by Feindt called 'UFOs and Water':

"UFOs have approximately 75% of this planet in which to operate undetected.Adding another piece to the puzzle. From dissimilar puzzle pieces supplied by ufologists throughout the years of UFO history, a picture is starting to take shape. Ufologist Carl Feindt has not only contributed his own small piece, but he has also connected many of the previous pieces to form an enlightening and highly plausible theory.Feindt’s studies concern Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) that enter and exit the dense medium of water. This aspect aroused his curiosity, because while we humans do not understand alien science, we do know our water. This book contains cases from just about every type of body of water, from puddles to oceans. It opens a long-overlooked door to discover the operating principles of UFOs by closely observing water’s reaction to these craft and finding similarities among cases involving water.“[Carl Feindt] did an excellent job of describing the movement of UFOs in water, entering water, leaving water, and moving above the water...and what the water conditions can tell us about the mechanics of the operation of the vehicles.”
John F. Schuessler, Former International Director of MUFON

Cheers.
 

karl 12

Noble
Great thread Karl.
One wonders at what volume of data the government and all it's departments have we have not been allowed to see?
The act of whisking away data about UFO encounters has been practiced for a very long time it seems.

One certainly does wonder matey and I'd wager it's a rather sizable one.
As for departments I read a while back theat it's the Navy (rather than the Air Force) that's in charge of investigating the UFO subject and there's some relevant info below about missing UFO information - apparently they've never released a single document and many folks {including me) think the Office of Naval Intelligence are heavily involved in it.


Ever wonder what the U.S. Government has in their filing cabinets? Search more than 530,000 pages of declassified documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and find out..
This section contains batches of documents that have been received from multiple agencies. The FOIA request was for all documents relating to UFOs... the following is what was released:

Army - 355 Pages - 22 megs
Central Intelligence Agency [2,763 Pages]
Defense Intelligence Agency UFO Files Through 1979 [204 Pages]
Defense Intelligence Agency UFO Files from 1979-1989 [12 Pages]
Defense Intelligence Agency UFO Files From 1990 to date [30 Pages]
Department of Defense [270 Pages]
Federal Bureau of Investigation UFO Documents [1,600 Pages] - [ Part 01 | Part 02 | Part 03 | Part 04 | Part 05 | Part 06 | Part 07 | Part 08 | Part 09 | Part 10 | Part 11 | Part 12 | Part 13 | Part 14 | Part 15 | Part 16 ]
John F. Kennedy Library [127 Pages]
NASA Headquarters [131 Pages]
National Reconnaisance Office UFO Documents (No Records)
National Security Agency's UFO Files [159 Pages]
National Security Agency's Once Exempt From Release [254 Pages]

Navy (No Records)

Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense [132 Pages]
Space Command [7 Pages]
Wright Patterson Air Force Base [910 Pages] - All documents relating to Project Sign and Grudge[ January through August, 1948 | September through December, 1948, 1949.


Missing US Naval UFO Information:

The sister Services, Army, USAF and CIA, DIA and NSA have released UFO files as have the British, Danes, French, Brazilians, Australians and even Uruguayans. Now the Russians.
It seems the US Navy’s turn. What specifically? For starters:

1. WWII study of ususual radar returns.
2. 4th AF documents concerning with air intrusion of Hanford, Navy radar and aircraft assets tasked to intercept same
3. About 50 AAF and Navy documents formerly TS and below refer to an equal number of other documents on the Scandinavian Ghost Rockets
4. A small amount of Navy documents in the USAF Project Blue Book files refer to other Navy documents not seen
5. AIR 203 was a Joint TS USAF/Navy study of UFOs. Yet Navy claims no records
6. BurAero analysis of AF document released not by Navy but DOD.
7. In 1951 Dr. Urner Liddel ONR claims after studying 2000 cases that UFOs are Skyhook balloons (USAF does even have 2000 cases in 1951. What does ONR have?
8. Korean War radar cases in OP322V, OP322V2 and COMNAVFE. (Some incomplete reports this era in Project BB)
9. Navy Sec Dan Kimball set UFO project in ONI in 1952
10. CIA document enumerating intel asset dedicated to UFOs refers to analyst in ONI
11. The old Hydrographic office was a published source of reports for the US Navy, merchant shipping and aircraft over waters. These were not investigated?
12. Large resevoir of “war stories” by old Navy salts, esp., aircrews and radar operators and other CIC personnel
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Further, Project Blue Book record indicate numerous contacts thru Air Attaches with foreign govt on UFOs. Naval Attaches have not such contacts even with Navies that UFO significant UFO incidents or Navy UFO project, Argentina, other incidents Chile, Brazil?
In reviews for the Clinton Executive Order declassifying records over 25 years old, Army and AF comes up with hundreds of UFO documents even though these were not specifically required for index. The Navy nada.
“We do not investigate UFOs.”
“We do not keep records filed for such a topic as UFOs.”
“If we had any records on UFOs, they were destroyed.”
“If we had any records on UFOs, we transferred them to the USAF.”
The dog eat my home work. Lost at sea!
Jan Aldrich, Project1947.com

Cheers!
 

nivek

As Above So Below
One certainly does wonder matey and I'd wager it's a rather sizable one.
As for departments I read a while back theat it's the Navy (rather than the Air Force) that's in charge of investigating the UFO subject and there's some relevant info below about missing UFO information - apparently they've never released a single document and many folks {including me) think the Office of Naval Intelligence are heavily involved in it.

Cheers!

The freedom of information act is a sham in my opinion, they do not comply to it...

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nivek

As Above So Below
“We do not investigate UFOs.”
“We do not keep records filed for such a topic as UFOs.”
“If we had any records on UFOs, they were destroyed.”
“If we had any records on UFOs, we transferred them to the USAF.”

The military are great for giving excuses and diversions...

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1963

Noble
Another one of your great threads Karl. :Thumbsup: ... and who would have guessed, or even dared to suggest that the 'guvnors' would remove all trace of the event , lean on the 'little-guys' and deny all forever?? ... not us eh matey! :Whistle:

As usual your information is excellent and so thorough that I can't find anything more for the sake of thread contribution, but I have to declare that the Acushnet encounter really hits the mark for verisimilitude with regards to the authenticity of gravitas exuded by the whistle-blower... I for one believe everything happened as he relayed the encounter. ... But as no doubt has already been pointed out , there is no way to possibly confirm this fantastic recollection without something quite extraordinary happening in the upper echelons of 'the powers that be', and that of course being disclosure of the missing paperwork , unbinding the rest of the witnesses by restoring the freedom of speech to all of the eye-witnesses and a frank retelling of all of the known facts . Do you think that will ever happen mate? ... I personally doubt it.
.... But just to add that when reading this case i'm put in mind of the 'USS Nimitz UFO Incident' of 2004 that i learned of from researcher Robert Powell . The case took place in November, 2004, and was witnessed by the USS Nimitz strike force. Jets were scrambled, and a “tic tac” shaped object was seen and recorded on video.... but when Powell requested information via foia ... the reply was "there is no information on the incident"!
...To hear about the case direct from Robert , here is a podcast in which he talks to Alexandro Rojas about that case and the 'Aguadilla Puerto Rico UFO Sighting" .... he talks about the Nimitz case from about 28mins in....
https://podcastufo.com/tag/uss-nimitz-2004-ufo-incident/


Cheers Buddy.
 

karl 12

Noble
Thanks for the replies and couldn"t agree more about the FOIA ( very nice link as well 1963 thanks for posting that mate) · it mentions here the Pentagon are also going to become (or already have become) along with NORAD 'completely exempt' from the Freedom of Information Act and not have to release any more UFO documents so that can't be good news as the DIA appear heavily involved with the UFO subject.

Thought researcher Kevin Randle also makes some excellent points below about 'The Decline and Fall of FOIA' and mentions how the teeth have been removed from it - also brought up is the fact that the Bush administration made several changes to the 'interpretation' of the FOIA laws and, in June 2003, the Department of Justice actually held meetings 'to train FOIA officers how to keep more information from being disclosed under FOIA'.

I also thought it apt that the U.S. Air Force is stated to be 'one of the most notorious agencies of government in ignoring, denying, and essentially contravening the current requirements of the FOIA and related rules and law regarding Mandatory Declassification Review requests (MDRs)' and wasn't really surprised to learn that in 2007 they won the Rosemary award for worst FOIA performance from the National Security Archives group at George Washington University.


There are those who believe that the Freedom of Information Act is the gateway to all knowledge about UFOs. If you have a question, just file a FOIA request and the information will be sent to you. Anything you wish to know, you can learn, if you can find the right agency, form your questions intelligently, and if you have a little patience.

And I say crapola…

The point here is that it doesn’t seem that FOIA works as well as it used to. It seems that they can ignore repeated requests, and I really don’t want to pay an attorney two hundred dollars an hour to sue them for a response, only to learn that the information is considered vital to national security which would launch another lawsuit. They have the resources to dance, but we out here do not.Oh, I get it that lots of people file FOIA over trivia… but then, if the records weren’t hidden away, there would be no need for FOIA. And yes, I understand that some things are a matter of national security, but I’m not sure how that might relate to the Air Force investigations of Roswell since the Air Force said it was a balloon, or how it relates to the radar tracks of a commercial airliner more than two decades ago.FOIA just doesn’t work the way it used to and that is really all I’m saying..

I believe that the problem is systemic... the teeth have been removed from the FOIA laws, they now routinely charge, they categorize the requests, all to keep from having to do anything at all. It has nothing to do with UFOs and everything to do with keeping information, however routine and dull, from the public.

I had asked for something that should have been as simple as reviewing the Command Post logs on a single date. I just wanted to know if a telephone call had been made and if a radar track had been seen... Instead, I get a number of emails that have nothing to do with that and I still have no answer to my questions.

And, I have received absolutely no answer from one office at all. I have sent, over the last year, four separate requests for the very same information.

The point is that FOIA is sick and dying and that has nothing to do with UFOs.

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I think if you take all that into account along with the escalating (and conditioned) ridicule factor attached to this subject then we won't be seeing the same level of multiple witness reports or officially released radar confirmation, ground trace, electromagnetic interference, physiological effect or government documentary evidence any time soon mate - at least not in the US and the UK.

Anyhow below is yet more testimony claiming Naval UFO cover up shenanigans · the first one involving 'never to discuss' directives and censorship of Naval log books..





the second involving the USS John F Kennedy where the commanding officer actually appeared via the onboard video screens throughout the ship and ordered crewmen 'do not discuss'..





and the third involving claims that this Naval Command Centre received a "spanking new log book' after a very strange UFO initiated a Condition Zebra Alert:




Cheers!
 

karl 12

Noble
Possibility of yet another example of UFO/USO Naval log book shenanigans involving astronomer Marc D"Antonio and a submarine sonar operator tracking an underwater object travelling at several hundred knots - the order then came down from the commanding officer to "Log it and dog it".

See 49:00

 
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karl 12

Noble
.... But just to add that when reading this case i'm put in mind of the 'USS Nimitz UFO Incident' of 2004 that i learned of from researcher Robert Powell . The case took place in November, 2004, and was witnessed by the USS Nimitz strike force. Jets were scrambled, and a “tic tac” shaped object was seen and recorded on video....


You seen this video reenactment mate - pretty fascinating stuff.



Cheers!
 
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