The end times are now!

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
i know, but it could evolve into one!
Right you are, And this is why I have said my peace completely, And I shall bow out of this thread gracefully. There is literally nothing more I can add to this that I haven't said anyway. I gracefully bow out now.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I don't even want a religious debate. I just want people who are Christian to feel accepted here. That's literally all I want.


I thought maybe, People had seen enough of me and who I am, to know, Christians aren't this stereotypical depiction they have of religious zealots. That maybe people could see, Christians as good decent people, Without all the questions and challenges to prove Gods existence.

You're being ridiculous, Christians are welcome here, this thread isn't about Christianity or anything you mentioned, no one has said all Christians are extreme evangelicals, but you want to make this thread about that, we'll gooooood luck with that...

I don't care if it's a Muslim, Christian or Jew, or even Hindu as we have had in the past here, if a fanatic of one of those religions comes here preaching we are all going to die for whatever reason expect some banter, simple...Don't make this into something more than what it is...

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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
You're being ridiculous, Christians are welcome here, this thread isn't about Christianity or anything you mentioned, no one has said all Christians are extreme evangelicals, but you want to make this thread about that, we'll gooooood luck with that...

I don't care if it's a Muslim, Christian or Jew, or even Hindu as we have had in the past here, if a fanatic of one of those religions comes here preaching we are all going to die for whatever reason expect some banter, simple...Don't make this into something more than what it is...

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A fanatic, why can't people just accept that other people are going to believe differently. You say don't make this isn't something it isn't. You know I have fought against these issues before. If you really are a person who is a friend.
Then try to see where I am coming from, This is not for drama, This is, Who I am forced to be. I didn't ask to take this side of the debate. It was thrust upon me.

"You are not seeing. I can not choose to "Not defend my spiritual beliefe publicly" If I do that, Then I am not following the tenants of what my spirituality teaches.

This is not personal, My hands are tied Nivek. You may not agree with that, But that is the truth.

My thing is, To be who I am, I can't be that person here. I am a very spiritual person, But I have to tone it down so much here that I can't be me. Or at least it feels that way.
 
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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
A fanatic, why can't people just accept that other people are going to believe differently. You say don't make this isn't something it isn't. You know I have fought against these issues before. If you really are a person who is a friend.
Then try to see where I am coming from, This is not for drama, This is, Who I am forced to be. I didn't ask to take this side of the debate. It was thrust upon me.

"You are not seeing. I can not choose to "Not defend my spiritual beliefe publicly" If I do that, Then I am not following the tenants of what my spirituality teaches.

This is not personal, My hands are tied Nivek. You may not agree with that, But that is the truth.

My thing is, To be who I am, I can't be that person here. I am a very spiritual person, But I have to tone it down so much here that I can't be me. Or at least it feels that way.
THIS IS A UFO FORUM, NOT A RELIGIOUS FORUM, OK?
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
my challange was heavy handed. I seen every end of the world story end in failure. It is not jesus who I I challange. no it's the end of the world stuff. i welcome a debate. he is free to believe as he wishes.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
THIS IS A UFO FORUM, NOT A RELIGIOUS FORUM, OK?

if you look there are sections dedicated to belief. my wife has a topic on WICCA.
volcano's nature and events are discussed. I must in all honesty say your statement that this is a UFO fourm is wrong.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
if you look there are sections dedicated to belief. my wife has a topic on WICCA.
volcano's nature and events are discussed. I must in all honesty say your statement that this is a UFO fourm is wrong.
people misunderstand me anyway, They think I'm trying to envoke a fight or even change something or lay accusation on someone. There is no right way to do what I'm trying to do and I'm bad at it. No matter where I go there is a lot of, I don't know, Something toward the Christian belief. It's like a negative view on it or something. I want to be that guy that shows support for Christianity, I want to be that guy that shows the community that an intelligent person who has studied and does understand the concepts of higher education "Who doesn't believe in God by Accident or brainwashing"

I want to dispell stereotypes people have about Christianity. I'm just very bad at these topics because there is little science to them.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
THIS IS A UFO FORUM, NOT A RELIGIOUS FORUM, OK?
I didn't bring up the topic of Spirituality or religion. This is why I said this topic was not my choice.

Where ever I go, I am still who I am, Wherever I go, I must support my spiritual beliefs.

To not support my spiritual beliefs is the act of a coward. I won't be a coward. I must and will say my peace. This is about me having a spiritual obligation. it's not some choice I make just because I'm having an off day, These are topics that weigh on me And people who know me know this is long-standing, And I try my best to avoid these topics.

Do you honestly think I would choose to be one of the more prominent people who devote themselves to science on this forum and then "choose" to Defend God to people who don't want to talk about religion?

Who would do that? I don't want to talk about this stuff. But when the occasion arises. I "Must" Defend what I hold to be spiritually true.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I will say this to everyone though. Maybe I am growing spiritually, and maybe that could make me what some people would consider a fanatic or a zealot.

It's a path I've been on my whole life, I want to Grow as a Christian. I want to do right by my spirituality. These things are very important to me at this stage in my life. I don't mean for strife or discord with people,

Let me explain. I am "Trying" to be a Good Christian" It's important because. I have not always been. I used to Cheat. I used to go out and have sex with peoples wives just because I could.It never crossed my mind that I was wrecking homes or destroying lives. I've not been a good person, And it's very important for me at this stage to try.

So, if it's possible. Try to understand guys. I do this Because I feel like I must. It is not personal, I do this, Trying to be a better person. If people believe that sin is a real thing, That one's actions one's deeds do make some sort of difference, I have to wash the dirty away from my soul somehow.
 
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Ron67

Ignorance isn’t bliss!
I will say this to everyone though. Maybe I am growing spiritually, and maybe that could make me what some people would consider a fanatic or a zealot.

It's a path I've been on my whole life, I want to Grow as a Christian. I want to do right by my spirituality. These things are very important to me at this stage in my life. I don't mean for strife or discord with people,

Let me explain. I am "Trying" to be a Good Christian" It's important because. I have not always been. I used to Cheat. I used to go out and have sex with peoples wives just because I could.It never crossed my mind that I was wrecking homes or destroying lives. I've not been a good person, And it's very important for me at this stage to try.

So, if it's possible. Try to understand guys. I do this Because I feel like I must. It is not personal, I do this, Trying to be a better person. If people believe that sin is a real thing, That one's actions one's deeds do make some sort of difference, I have to wash the dirty away from my soul somehow.

Ive been an Atheist since my early teens when I saw the contradictions and bullshit in all religions.Funnily enough,I've never cheated or ruined marriages because that would make me feel bad and I like to feel good.I don't behave in a decent way to impress a sky daddy and get to join his gang!. I do it because I believe it's the right thing to do.My family is religious my friends predominantly atheists.So when someone starts telling me that my friends are going to hell if they don't kiss some insecure,petulant,spiteful,vengeful and psychotic gods arse I'm going to ridicule them and anyone else who tries to preach nonsense to me.
 
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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Ive been an Atheist since my early teens when I saw the contradictions and bullshit in all religions.Funnily enough,I've never cheated or ruined marriages because that would make me feel bad and I like to feel good.I don't behave in a decent way to impress a sky daddy and get to join his gang!. I do it because I believe it's the right thing to do.My family is religious my friends predominantly atheists.So when someone starts telling me that my friends are going to hell if they don't kiss some insecure,petulant,spiteful,vengeful and psychotic gods arse I'm going to ridicule them and anyone else who tries to preach nonsense to me.

Spirituality is tricky, I try to do these things for myself, But some people that believe, Believe we can't do it alone and have to do it for others. My thing is, I've always been a person who is happy with solitude. I like being by myself and having my alone time, it makes me happy, But according to what I believe. I literally have to evangelize, spread the word, Or I'm just flat out in the wrong. I don't agree with everything my spirituality teaches. In fact, I disagree with some of it.

But I believe in this brand of spirituality, And I not only agreed to it, but I am also baptized into its rules. There comes a time, sometimes in spirituality, When it's no longer about how a person feels or what they agree or disagree with. It just rules that we promised to try to follow. and if we don't then we are doing it wrong.

I don't mean to make it sound bad, But, I don't like arguing with people, I barely like talking to people, To be in a situation where I absolutely must spread the word and uphold the honor of the beliefe at the cost of making people bitter. It bothers me.

People think I just like to cause Drama over Christianity. That's not the truth. I'm doing what I promised to do, What I have to do, To honor the promises I made.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
You all need a hug.:wacko8: Agnostic ftw

Hugs are very very nice, especially when its given from the right person at just the right time, then its bliss...

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nivek

As Above So Below
all the evidence he needs to show the God of the Bible why he should never have created us in the first place.

What about Wombats, were they a mistake too?...

Did you know they are the only animal in the world that has cube-shaped poop?...

Surely this must have been a mistake eh?...:ohmy8:

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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
if you look there are sections dedicated to belief. my wife has a topic on WICCA.
volcano's nature and events are discussed. I must in all honesty say your statement that this is a UFO fourm is wrong.
those forums are for healthy discussion of this stuff, not debates
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
I didn't bring up the topic of Spirituality or religion. This is why I said this topic was not my choice.

Where ever I go, I am still who I am, Wherever I go, I must support my spiritual beliefs.

To not support my spiritual beliefs is the act of a coward. I won't be a coward. I must and will say my peace. This is about me having a spiritual obligation. it's not some choice I make just because I'm having an off day, These are topics that weigh on me And people who know me know this is long-standing, And I try my best to avoid these topics.

Do you honestly think I would choose to be one of the more prominent people who devote themselves to science on this forum and then "choose" to Defend God to people who don't want to talk about religion?

Who would do that? I don't want to talk about this stuff. But when the occasion arises. I "Must" Defend what I hold to be spiritually true.
but please stop shoving your beliefs into everyone you see its annoying
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
but please stop shoving your beliefs into everyone you see its annoying

I never shove my beliefs off on people, I think almost anyone could testify that I simply assert my beliefs and don't back down from them, Never have I ever told anyone they have to believe as I do, I speak about them, But you know, Just to be Fair, That is rather hypocritical coming from you, I seem to recall something about a trickster God, That drove everyone up the wall. Who stood up for you?

The difference is, I don't judge people based upon their beliefs, because beliefs vary from person to person, But of all the people here who could say my God talk is annoying, For you to say it.

It's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.

With Love, SP.

Ps, Don't take that personally, I expect some splash back when I speak about certain subjects. This wasn't designed to piss you off, It was designed to show you, How we aren't so different from one another.
 
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nivek

As Above So Below
but please stop shoving your beliefs into everyone you see its annoying

Now you know how some of us feel when you start preaching about your god Loki...:Whistle:

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