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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
John Lear is an interesting character. He's obviously nuts, but he is articulate and I'm sure very engaging in person. He played a pivotal role in quite a few UFO stories back in the day, but he's mostly forgotten these days.
i can see why, these days he make bizzare posts in facebook saying shit like "the moon has an atmosphere", "there are no gas giants, the only gas giant is NASA" "the solar system has 43 planets, all inhabited" and other bizzare statements that have to be seen to be believed
 

nivek

As Above So Below
i can see why, these days he make bizzare posts in facebook saying shit like "the solar system has 43 planets, all inhabited"

He really said that?...So has he said where all the other planets are?...

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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
He really said that?...So has he said where all the other planets are?...

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yep:
And by the way, there are 40 planets in our solar system not 9 that NASA says there are.
John Lear
this is just one of many jewels, he has also said that the billy meier case is true (and apparently thats why he got banned from ATS), that there is a house sized UFO buried near garrinson utah (in public land!) and many many other bizzare unsourced claims
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
It really irks me when people who have the ability and resources to be serious and respected ufologists start smoking the pay attention to me crack. Like any drug, they only crave more of it as time goes on.
 

Dean

Adept Dabbler
Not long ago, I came across two fairly recent blog posts by Tom Mahood, which (read together) provide the most thorough and plausible explanation I've seen for the origin and motivation for Lazar's fabrications. Among other noteworthy aspects, Mahood's reconstruction explains why government security operatives really did try to intimidate Lazar -- and it wasn't because Lazar knew anything about reverse-engineered spacecraft or any such nonsense.

Looking at the Bob Lazar story from the perspective of 2018

So ya don’t believe it was a proton beam, eh?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Not long ago, I came across two fairly recent blog posts by Tom Mahood, which (read together) provide the most thorough and plausible explanation I've seen for the origin and motivation for Lazar's fabrications. Among other noteworthy aspects, Mahood's reconstruction explains why government security operatives really did try to intimidate Lazar -- and it wasn't because Lazar knew anything about reverse-engineered spacecraft or any such nonsense.

Looking at the Bob Lazar story from the perspective of 2018

So ya don’t believe it was a proton beam, eh?

That first link was a good read, could be a plausible explanation for his lies, its possible...

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spacecase0

earth human
is he the guy that started and still runs
United Nuclear , Scientific Equipment & Supplies ?
if so, then he is sure to not be payed by the government to say or not say anything

my other thought on this topic is that if I were an alien, I would use the most complex indirect method of transportation possible. that way the natives had no hope of reproducing it if they got one.
 

spacecase0

earth human
Same guy. I am still waiting for his hydrogen car kit
I wanted the jet motors for bicycles,
but they vanished from his site years before I saved up enough money to get one.
I still wonder if they pulled it from the site for safety reasons
 

nivek

As Above So Below
So many people support that fraud Lazar, on Twitter they talk of him like he is right about everything, its quite pathetic...Some say he must be telling the truth because his story hasn't changed over the years...That is no prove of truth, a good conman will never change his story either, or he's caught lol...There are so many gullible people online these days...

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spacecase0

earth human
The other day, I came across what I found to be quite an illuminating podcast by Stuart Robbins (Exposing PseudoAstronomy no. 133, June 2, 2015), debunking Lazar's claims regarding Element 115 (ununpentium), which Lazar claimed was the power source for the captured ET spacecraft that he saw.

Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast - Shownotes Episode 133

transcript: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast - Shownotes Episode 133
that looks like it is disproof and not debunking
 

Dean

Adept Dabbler
that looks like it is disproof and not debunking

debunk: to expose or excoriate (a claim, assertion, sentiment, etc.) as being pretentious, false, or exaggerated.
Random House Unabridged Dictionary: Second Edition

Robbins does, in fact, "expose" as false the Lazar inventions regarding Element 115.

"Debunk" is a better word here than "disprove." Someone might sincerely advance a theory about the properties of a substance that is later "disproved," i.e., shown to be mistaken. But in this case, Lazar's claims about Element 115 are an integral part of the structure of his great tower of lies, and not merely erroneous notions -- so "debunk" is the better word.
 
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