To The Stars Academy: Investigating the Unexplained

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Erica Lukes interviewed Dr. Eric Davis last night for the first 52 minutes of UFO Classified

Listening to it now as I'm doing other things. At around the 00:29 mark I heard Dr.Davis say that alien visitation hasn't always been benevolent as evidenced by Cash-Landrum, Betty and Barney Hill and Travis Walton.

:mellow8:

So those cases are accepted as fact, eh?
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Cash-Landrum

Let me modify that one. I believe it actually did happen, that they were injured and the witnesses were relaying what they saw. But it sounds awfully crude for ET and I sooner believe it was something terrestrial.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
People have speculated about that. I read a blog where somebody was arguing that it was industrial residue, and at first I found that argument persuasive. But the truth is, you can't tell what a sample is all about just by looking at it. Sure it may look like industrial residue, but the devil is in the details, so to speak - it may have very significant microstructure, and even exotic physical properties. And apparently that's what they've found...or think they've found anyway, because it keeps coming up. We need to see their results. And in May, we will. I'm generally optimistic about it - they have some serious minds working on this, and I don't think they'd be this excited unless they've got hard empirical evidence of real significance. We'll know one way or the other soon enough.
if its doesn't looks like its manufactured, then its probally just industrial waste, also the story behind how art bell got that sample is full of red flags
 

nivek

As Above So Below
thats 0 credibility right there

What's credible are the results of the material analysis, which we will know soon enough, where it came from is locked in that material analysis, not the return address of the mail from the postmaster...pecking and scratching to belittle something that hasn't even been presented yet is folly...

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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
If it does implode then its gonna drive away many people from ufology, including most of those folks it lured in, probably permanently. And when the next thing arrives its just gonna be that harder for them to get any acceptance, even should it be the genuine thing. Cause people can always point back into this event and you know debunkers will.

One of the things people in ufology circles tend to do unfortunately is cry wolf often, and so dont be surprised no one listens to you soon after. So a long chain of nothing happening events, dissapointments and deceit has left a lot of people pretty frustrated and jaded, understandably, like some people mentioned before who now doubt everything that comes forward.

We need evidence and proof, not reckless speculation, hyping and storytellers. I hope for these guys sakes they have it.
don't worry! i have been here for years and some disinfo clowns getting burst is definitely not gonna drive me away
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Well i follow a lot of forums who in turn follow TTSA, and some of these people say if they had that kind of evidence, they would have shown it already.

Heres a quote from Mirageman of ATS forum, whos been pretty skeptical of the whole thing:

"And as we know every major scientific leap forward has never been announced as something wrapped up in a multi-part series with TV company that you have to watch to find it all out. If you believe this is being done because people aren't ready for it by traditional means, with a press release of what has been achieved, then you are sadly misguided.

If TTSA had made a really astounding discovery in anything you would have heard about it on the global news networks. That would actually garner move interest in any TV series .

The fact that they haven't means that they have nothing. It is just like "Hunting Bigfoot" or "Oak Island". The point is to keep the story rolling and never resolve anything.
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mirageman is one of the few people approaching this problem from a sane angle, just like the australian scientific UFO research guy
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
What's credible are the results of the material analysis, which we will know soon enough, where it came from is locked in that material analysis, not the return address of the mail from the post master...pecking and scratching to belittle something that hasn't even been presented yet is folly...

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its taking too much time to appear and the dirt is already showing up
 
yes and it gets worse: the sample was sent anonymously via mail with a brief note saying that it came from a UFO crash in 1946
No. Jesus H. Christ - can you not get a single fact straight? The letter that accompanied the materials referenced the Roswell incident in 1947. The year 1946 never came into it. Maybe you wrongly thought that the Roswell incident happened in 1946, idk.

In any case, the letters are irrelevant; they may have been a smokescreen to protect the real identity of the sender - we have no way of knowing. All that matters is the science. And it looks like we'll have those answers in May.

fucking bingo
have you guys never heard of richard doty and the crazyness that was 80's ufology?
Lol - he was mocking people who think like you, and you agreed with him. It's nice that you parody yourself so nobody else has to bother.
 
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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
No. Jesus H. Christ - can you not get a single fact straight? The letter that accompanied the materials referenced the Roswell incident in 1947. The year 1946 never came into it. Maybe you wrongly thought that the Roswell incident happened in 1946, idk.
huh i remenber seeing that it came from a separate crash in 1946, guess i was wrong
Lol - he was mocking people who think like you =D
no, he was just saying that they exist, not mocking them
 
no, he was just saying that they exist, not mocking them
Wrong. When somebody prefaces a statement with *puts on a tinfoil hat* - what follows is a parody of conspiracy theorist paranoia, like thinking that everything that ever happens is a PsyOp perpetrated by the CIA or some such agency (i.e., your exact argument regarding this subject).
 
To be honest I dont know what to believe with AATIP and TTSA, as I said im only intrested in the verified results, should they ever come about.
 
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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Wrong. When somebody prefaces a statement with *puts on a tinfoil hat* - what follows is a parody of conspiracy theorist paranoia, like thinking that everything that ever happens is a PsyOp perpetrated by the CIA or some such agency (i.e., your exact argument regarding this subject).
but in this case its a very plausible explanation, more plausible than sudden disclosure out of nowhere
 
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