Are UFOs 'Nuts & Bolts' Or Spiritual?

Georgek

George
From my experience I find them to be spiritual

1) Any such manoeuvring at speed especially at right angles cannot be accomplished in the physical. Friction and centrifugal forces will cause any physical object to fail.

2) If the universe is empty of intelligent life, where do the UFOs come from? From the spiritual dimension allowing none physical forces on their craft.

3) What about all the Greys and aliens that are reported? Drones or biological robots designed to do physical tasks

4) Why not physical nuts and bolts? Anything with advanced intelligence and make up....as give them credit to get here, must have overcome physical hardship of a material body. Especially with the degree of sophistication and psychic ability of aliens . They have literally overcome physical rebirth.

5) Why has not science found life either on Mars or anywhere else in the universe? Because they are looking for life like ours and refuse to understand that the greater life is beyond ours.

6) Finally, I have had no evidence to make me believe that they are physical. I know that they can interact physically perhaps by drones and materialisation but not in our physical sense. Oh yer they can rearrange room furniture and use a camera but the physical is not their home environment.

Such is my belief from experience.

George
 

michael59

Celestial
I think there are both spiritual entities and physical entities.

Whether or not they work in tandem? I want to believe they don't.

If I stood by and watched while someone commented harm to another and did nothing about it, I would be just as guilty as the perpetrator so, what's that make them?

I know what it makes the ones in the "know" right now and I think that is why it is still kept secret.
 

Georgek

George
I have seen physical activity but when I run to catch them, they are gone.

I used to get a lot of poltergeist type activity at the time.

On one occasion, I was downstairs and could hear my tape recorder being activated.

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Mine was a Spinney which had exactly the same toggle switches as we have here. If you look at the right hand three position switch, it sets the 'play' by moving upward and tape rewind and forward by the arrow keys. The switch on the left, is the toggle record switch . I had converted mine into a transmitter by moving the record toggle half way between record and play. The microphone socket was fed into the speaker socket which was fed into an external dipole areal.

When the microphone was plugged into the 'MIC' socket, I could pick up the live transmission on 2000 metres LW. up to about 300 yds using my transistor radio .

I used it to transmit to UFOs and uully got a response. My aim was to increase it's transmitting range and on that particular Saturday afternoon, I could hear the clunking of these toggles and the advancing or rewinding of the tape.
Loud? By heck iot was!

So I ran upstairs as fast as I could, swung open my bedroom door and there was silence.

Looking at the wiring, it had been rearranged. The microphone was fed into the monitor socket and the wires were cut with the kitchen knife that I used as a screw driver. When I looked at the knife, it had plastic sheath marks from the plastic around the wires as this was used to cut away the plastic to make fresh terminals

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Similar to sharpening a pencil. I could never ever do this and had used the kitchen round pointed knife as a screw driver.

I still cannot understand how a fairly blunt table knife can be used with this accuracy on battery wires? plastic was still on the blade.

I wish I had checked my tape, as I feel pretty sure that they must have left me a message?

I tell you with no mistake.....it was weird as I have no idea how the can enter a bedroom and cut wires and to just disappear in thin air?

Was it real? ABSOLUTELY!

 

spacecase0

earth human
I have had an abduction experience, it was a spiritual attack (and the most physical pain I have ever had before),
but I am pretty sure I know how to build the hardware they use,
and if I am correct, then it means that once they use the hardware they have, then any willpower in the area can alter reality,
it is not just what they can do to you, it is what you can do to them (if you try).
so, this is why they don't challenge some people.
and why there is a question of if they are physical or not
 

nivek

As Above So Below
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I respect Richard L Thompson's take on this topic.
UFOs - Physical or Subtle?

That's an interesting take, thanks...I heard a theory once that said some ufos could be mental constructs from species highly developed over millions of years, they use these mentally projected constructs to explore the galaxy instead of always traveling physically...They can gather information and see the places where they project these objects directly in their minds...

Personally I wouldn't consider any ufos 'spiritual', maybe it's the terminology, but spiritual to me is personal work in oneself and internal considering or lack there of and not really a description of existential states of an object...

...
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
UFOs are a true enigma, as vallee once said, paradoxically UFOs have both a physical (can leave imprints, be photographed, etc) and non-physical (impossible behaviour and psychological element) existence
 

spacecase0

earth human
UFOs are a true enigma, as vallee once said, paradoxically UFOs have both a physical (can leave imprints, be photographed, etc) and non-physical (impossible behaviour and psychological element) existence
and yet with 2 documents all of what they do is clearly shown to be possible
first is the theory of how it all works
www.resonantfractals.org/Wilbert Smith/The-New-Science-&-TensorBeam.pdf
and the second is how to physically build it.
http://blog.lege.net/Mathias_Bage/GLCRA-MAGVID-annotated.pdf

I think they are worth reading.
some fascinating things become apparent while reading if they are true.
 
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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
and yet with 2 documents all of what they do is clearly shown to be possible
first is the theory of how it all works
www.resonantfractals.org/Wilbert Smith/The-New-Science-&-TensorBeam.pdf
and the second is how to physically build it.
http://blog.lege.net/Mathias_Bage/GLCRA-MAGVID-annotated.pdf

I think they are worth reading.
some fascinating things become apparent while reading if they are true.
well not even thomas morrison believed in that, i think i shouldn't either...
 

spacecase0

earth human
if you were looking for possibilities, I offered one that was consistent with all the evidence.
if what I posted is correct, it means that they are not hiding the UFOs because aliens are here with ships, it would mean that they hide it because it shows the nature of reality to be not what most people thought.

got any better ideas ?
I don't really like my current one
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
well the source of that explanation is an alleged area 51 guy, something that i find kinda suspicious, just me though
 

spacecase0

earth human
sure, good reason to be suspicious,
that is why I posted the totally other source of theory
and it is a bit odd that it matches ?
and also matches every hardware test of a field force I have ever encountered ?
also matches the information from the shamans...
I know, how dare I mix spiritual and physics with physical tests so that there are no more anomalies
I expect that no one reading or replying to this thread read either document.

at this point I have encountered 2 groups of people.
ones seeking the truth
and ones seeking to be correct.
I say this now because this is the point in the conversation that i ask people to choose a side.
a casual reader might not think this is critical here,
but I have done this so many times before...
I know where this all ends.
 
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