TRUE END TIMES BIBLE PROPHECY - Monarch Briefing

John.....John...John....john...john...john......

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Come on...look at me (don't look over there...) now.....

You are a intelligent person and you know that we all love you...( I think?)

Sit down a minute...

Do you honestly believe all this stuff?
Do you honestly believe that a true god would destroy a human being when even I cannot kill a wasp.

He who is greater than myself has less compassion?

God doesn't kill anyone from His perspective. He makes the souls going from one realm to another. Death is not death from His vantage point. Nothing to do with the compassion but with our personal evolution on a large time scale. It is because you are a human in flesh that you wrongly interpret and judge things. Real life is not material but spiritual, in a real spiritual body of light. And this is this goal we must reach!

We have temporary material bodies like we have temporary spiritual bodies. Reincarnation means that our soul inhabit both these temporary material and spiritual bodies. The latter includes the former when being incarnated on earth.

Do you realise the scriptures are distorted and written by the priests in order to control the human race?

There is no such thing as eternal damnation. Nothing dies (says the Elephant Man)

You know.....yer....and I a in't stuttering.....
If you read your bible it is filled with reincarnation, gods and wild proverbs as well as killing witches. This is not God speaking, but the priests.
I believe that you see the world as black or white when it actually is more or less grey. The Scriptures were not written to control the human race but were USED to do it, centuries after having being written through selection of texts and, above all, through oriented interpretations because those in charge didn't have our own modern education. They necessarily were limited in terms of worldview.

There is one thing that you totally forget, like many people here, about the Scriptures. Only the priests and monks were authorized to read and copy them. For centuries, not months or years, the laymen were not allowed to even have a copy and then read them (it was so long to make a hand copy of a 2,000 pages book!). Then, the people were allowed to read them themselves (with the coming of printing), but never to comment them. At last, with the evolutive progresses in education, science and technologies, people became free to think and comment, provided that printing books became far cheaper.

Now, with Internet, everyone can read, think, comment and reject the whole thing, or a part of it. But rarely people imagine that different interpretations of the same texts could be provided. Why? Because there is a difference between an opinion and a study. Lazy people offer opinions. Educated people provide new interpretations. Guess what? There are more opinions than interpretations.

Anyway, people forgot two millennia of evolutive practices and therefore conclude that all was written to control the people. This is a sad shortcut from people supposed to use their intelligence, unlike the first priests whose religious messages to the people had to be very simple to get their attention. So, the distortion doesn't come from the texts themselves (few changes have been made in the first hand) but from their interpretations which had to be even caricatural to the extreme to be 'understood'. It was not evil at the beginning, but it became evil once the caricature definitively replaced the expertise.

The proof? I offered new a interpretation, far more logic and proved by history, of the Bible prophecies that none has ever proposed since centuries, and even millennia.

Do you think that people have really changed? Look at the elections. People don't read the political programs of the people they are supposed to elect. They just vote for people who say them and do what seduce them the most. Now, short tweets, often full of lies, or unproved claims, suffice to 'explain' things to people.


In order for the priests to gain control of a person, he is told that he was born into sin. Not many people know that.

As I explained, it goes back over 2000 years to Adam and Eve who if you do your research, will find that they never existed.

We are meant to believe that we are sinners because of what happened thousands of years earlier.

Why are we faulty with no hope until Jesus came along?
Again: MISINTERPRETATIONS leading to rejection. Genesis is full of symbols, just symbols and archetypes.

We are not sinners because of a mythical couple. We are sinners because we have been offered, through a symbolic initial couple, to incarnate in the material realm. Reaching the knowledge, or accessing to the Knowledge, implies to live the material experience through which we can make the difference between good and evil.

The control of the people has nothing to do with that. BUT what the clergy PROGRESSIVELY did with that is, indeed, the control of the people.

The coming of Christ on earth was the new covenant, that is to say the way to get out from the repeating cycle of birth and death, provided that we, alone, are not able to reach what was our first goal, aka the spiritual body of light. And guess what? He came approximately in the middle of the 7 days of God! One leg down into the mud, for the first part, one leg up, half way.

I will continue later.
 
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The coming of Christ on earth was the new covenant, that is to say the way to get out from the repeating cycle of birth and death, provided that we, alone, are not able to reach what was our first goal, aka the spiritual body of light. And guess what? He came approximately in the middle of the 7 days of God! One leg down into the mud, for the first part, one leg up, half way.
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Provided that Christ came to see Daniel in Daniel 10 around 500 BC, one can say that Christ came exactly at the mid-term of the 7 Days of God, i.e. the 7,000 years of the Bible cycle. One half part of those 7,000 years to dive into the mud, the other one to get out of it. That seems fair.
 
The historicity of Jesus is largely proved. What he really taught is another story. His prophecies - the very topic of this thread - are more than ever relevant, not only because history proved him right, but because the whole world is coming to an end as we know it.

The world citizenship is a mental contruct for the catatrophes, whatever their nature, will come before that mental contruct comes to fruition for what we really need to be doing is precisely what we don't do. Collective needs are not individual needs for the majority of the world population. For the latter, the end of the month matters more than the end of the world.

Inertias are far too big to change our course to doom. While people discuss and hope, the world continues to worsen. It's a matter of decades before the apex of the wrong paths will be reached (choose your topics to see their trend). Like it or not.

The reality of heaven exists for it is, first, space (where the ET spaceships go to, too), even in the Bible. Now, the immaterial heaven can not be proved with material instruments, because of its nature, but can be experienced.

Some day, more people will experience it alive. That is in Christ's prophecies, right until now, as the wrong path of the present world is described too. Like it or not.
That post was not for your benefit, of course, as you are too far gone to have an intelligent discussion about it. Just keep on yammering, though, because your particular psychosis is providing a useful example of just how ludicrous the old dogmas are in the present. It's a different world than it was when I was a kid. When my grandparents were kids a hundred years ago, religious dogma was still somewhat useful but its time was up.
 
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Now let me talk to the other readers here....

(yer..yer...when's tea time..yap..yap)

Jesus came according to the good book to absolve us from our sin as to what happened over 2000 years ago.

No..no ... it can never ever be repaid...that cursed apple because what John is trying to say is that there is no cure.

Now look at me John...eyeball to eyeball !!

(Yer he has gone quiet)

You see Jesus came along after 2000 years as to pay our debt. All these bodies going to Hell was no good for business.

Yer....we were all b*ggered back then, into the pit. Now this Jesus came and said:-

"Look folks...you are b*ggered really and your sins cannot be forgiven UNLESS you accept ME as your one and only savour!!!"

Now you may come along and say that you are not a sinner...but we all sinners because no one can live on this earth without sin. Otherwise we die!!!


So you think:- "B*gger me.....better play the game, I still can fornicate, murder and steal as long as I am a born again Christian!"

Is that correct John?? John are you listening?

"Oh blessed messiah I am sinning again!"

"AH...my son that is okay because although you have accepted me as your one and only Messiah you are still faulty merchandise and it is through the fact that you believe in me that you are going to Heaven"

Whereas some of the poor sods here giving to charity are going to hell. ( I will email my address later)

Good business men these priests and what they did was kill Jesus and brought him back again to make a bit more money.

He made some whilst he was alive and a lot more now he is dead!

Poor man!

Yet to top it all, the disciples are saying that the scriptures are not really true but just opinionated! Is that right John???

'ACCORDING to St Mark'

Meaning not God.

Now this is where trouble starts.

There are 1.8 billion Muslims against 22 billion Christians and then you have the Catholics and the Angolans with the Jews and all hell fire starts on this earth because every one thinks that their god is the one!
That is why the boss here don't like religious discussions.

It is not nice going to Hell and I think with faith it can upset folks?

It don't bother me...I will just say that this lot made me say these things.

Nope not in the least.
Well, what can I say except that you rewrite history (or the story) from your modern perspective as if some guys knew in advance what would be the future of the church(es)? According to your version Jesus Christ didn't exist (what the historicity of Jesus disproves), or came to suffer martyrdom just to let some random guys to become rich in the far future after other thousands people having faith in him were executed.

You accept reincarnation (am I mistaken here?), which indeed is biblical, but forget the karma thanks to which you reap what you sow in next lives. In other words, sins are not something that remain the same from lives to lives, nor as terrible than they were in the past. This means that we, personally, spiritually progress. But we are slow, too slow to definitevely get rid of those sins and, above all, are unable to get this promised body of light by our own (what the New Age mouvement believes).

That is where (and when) sins redemption from Christ comes in the play. BUT, this sins redeem is not to get our body of light but to get a chance to get it IF we deserve it at the end of God' Millennia after 1,000 years and the Last Judgment.

So, the redeem of the sins, through repentance and faith in God's means to be saved (aka the boarding in UFO), is a ONE SHOT opportunity to be taken in ET spacehips to avoid the 7 plagues, NOT to have the promised body of light, end of this long evolution process as primitive humans.

And the eternal damnation as Christians usually refer to doesn't exist. The long lasting nuclear radiations, from atomic explosions triggering souls disappearance (=Second Death), are this 'eternal damnation'.

I said that the Book of Revelation is the ONLY book ever asked by Jesus Christ to be written. So, the four Gospels are necessarily from humans, reporting what they saw and heard. It doesn't mean that they are not worth reading, studying and revering.

But are you listening what I say since 25 pages? That makes you totally and uniquely responsible of your own fate. God didn't make you blind nor deaf to my posts. You did and do it to yourself.

At last, it happens that the ONES awaited by the other religions perfectly fit with the Two Witnesses and George Christ. But it is another debate one could start.
 
That post was not for your benefit, of course, as you are too far gone to have an intelligent discussion about it. Just keep on yammering, though, because your particular psychosis is providing a useful example of just how ludicrous the old dogmas are in the present. It's a different world than it was when I was a kid. When my grandparents were kids a hundred years ago, religious dogma was still somewhat useful but its time was up.
You also are responsible of your own refusal to comprehend what I say. I kept showing here how very far from the traditional Christian dogma were my interpretations of the Bible. What could be more modern than UFO? Technologies we don't even have nor comprehend in our so 'extraordinarily evolved civilization' (except few people in the world thanks to The Science of Extraterrestrials)? Who is the intelligent guy here?
 

Georgek

George
You accept reincarnation (am I mistaken here?), which indeed is biblical, but forget the karma thanks to which you reap what you sow in next lives. In other words, sins are not something that remain the same from lives to lives, nor as terrible than they were in the past. This means that we, personally, spiritually progress. But we are slow, too slow to definitevely get rid of those sins and, above all, are unable to get this promised body of light by our own (what the New Age mouvement believes).
Hello John,

I just got to go to the scrap yard to take our old copper boiler for some money before these rob dogs nick it from my mum's garden.

A bit like heaven and hell?


Jesus did exist only as a man and prophet . A highly evolved soul.
You have to remember that politics was highly motivated by religion. The priests were even more powerful than the politicians. In actual fact they controlled politics until the church was divided (read Thomas Moore)

Henry VIII I think caused the desolation of the monasteries at around 1640 ?

You control the people and then you control both the politicians and the scriptures.

It is FEAR that propagates your points John.

Fear introduced by Hell and damnation and we are not talking AC/DC.

There is no love other than caused by brainwashing and false virtues.
Mankind was never meant to live in fear but by choice.
The only choice you give them is a one way Hell damnation if they do not do what they are told.

You may say that this is God's view, but it is not. It is your view and many other peoples view brought on by superstition and fear.
The Cluniac monks and Cathers is where Christianity derived and in actual fact did not accept your view. The Cathers were the original Catholics who believed in reincarnation and hence how Catholicism got it's name.

The twisting of ordeals was not God's word but the churches.
These false virtues can be read in Genesis. The names given is not an interpretation for the same god because it refers to 'WE' meaning more than one god.

Continued later...
 
Wouldn't it be something if that was right? Idle speculation on my part; these are the weighty topics I consider while painting or mowing the lawn. I've wondered about that. I know this is out there, but what if you have to drop dead to actually interact with ET ? Different realm of existence. It would prove that The Universe has a sense of humor.

This is the woo-woo in me at 03:59
Indeed, the universe has a sense of humor!

Did you know that there are several abduction cases where abductees meet their dead family members in ET ships? What do you think the transfiguration of Matthew 17 depict?

Matthew 17:1-3 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.

So, the spiritual realm is both those of the dead and the ETs.
 
I thought I was dying once, won't go into it but I was convinced it was coming, I had time to do what needed to be done and to be left alone, that's the cat in me.

I did start to shut down and my mind was easy, no panic or worry. Very odd as thinking of it today fills me with more dread than at the perceived door.

My heart nearly stopped as I could hear the beat in my ears. Then it sped up and when near normal I heard a wooshing that replaced the beat which both fell silent after a while.

No fear or sense of terminus.
Thanks to share your experience! These sounds are strange, aren't they?
 
Here's any details I might have missed about that time gap. I was at work (something you can't have because of your condition) and I didn't bother copying and pasting stuff for you. But now I can. When you're done reading, it's your time to explain why the Orléans UFO event will never happen, when you kept saying it will.

Genesis Revisited
Analysis of the text called 'Genesis Revisited'.

Except for the introduction, I have no difficulties to agree with the creation of Adam and Eve seen from different perspectives, that is from different cultures not in touch with each other, provided that Sumeria was the real craddle of the biblical humans.

As for God being among 'gods', aka aliens, to decide the creation of the new humanity at their image, even using gene manipulation, I totally concur, except that some expressions about this creation are obvious symbols of the real task. I agree that ELOHIM is the plural of ELOHA, hence several gods. But the Lord God IS still the God I speak about as a unique, omnicient and omnipotent being who chose the human form to appear to these gods/aliens, and later to the earthly humans, to better communicate with them. How could he be known without form? God, creator of the universe, can create anything, including a part of him, an evolved human shape. Who can do more can do less. So, God actually asked the Elohim to make, through genetic acts, a new being at their image: the Homo Sapiens Sapiens!

So, pluralim (in Elohim) is not a problem at all for these gods were mere technicians.

Now comes the Igigu's and Annunaki's story. As I showed it, the first were subordonate to the second. Were these gods those of the Bible?

EA (also ENKI), Prince of the earth, son of Anu dwelling in another world, is one of a group of several gods, the Annunaki. Marduk was one of the lesser gods, the Igigu, working for the Annunaki. So, we have TWO groups of gods, one dominating another one, not ONE GOD LORD with a group of gods, the Elohim.

BIG DIFFERENCE with the Bible.

The Sumerian tablets speak about the rebellion of the Igigu due to their work and life conditions. So, it was decided to create a being to do that work of...mining! Good. What kind of skills would that being would need? Intelligence? NO! Force? YES!.

So, what would be the goal of creating an intelligent human - Homo Sapiens Sapiens - to make hard physical tasks. NONE! On the contrary, the creators – the Annunaki - would face the same problem they met with the Igigu.

Besides, what kind of advanced aliens would they be without advanced technologies to do mining?

The big problem we face here, actually, is the chronology of the events.

To be continued...
 

Georgek

George
That is where (and when) sins redemption from Christ comes in the play. BUT, this sins redeem is not to get our body of light but to get a chance to get it IF we deserve it at the end of God' Millennia after 1,000 years and the Last Judgment.

Again a misinterpretation by way of incorrect biblical writings and mass confusion.

So, the redeem of the sins, through repentance and faith in God's means to be saved (aka the boarding in UFO), is a ONE SHOT opportunity to be taken in ET spacehips to avoid the 7 plagues, NOT to have the promised body of light, end of this long evolution process as primitive humans.

John....you will believe things thousands of years old but you will not believe me. I think most here believe in UFOs in principle? Okay there are discussions on how they appear and what they want and the general philosophy on their make up.

There is a general agreement although our views may vary. The thing with UFOs is that the phenomenon is still unfolding
You may say that UFOs are the work of the devil as to lead people astray from the true biblical teachings? I cannot argue that point, but I believe that this is not the case.

There is one main principle here and that is UFOs exist and the phenomena will not die. Whatever your views are on this, is down to belief. Just like the scriptures are to us (I am not sure about the rest here, as I have not read their posts?)

The point that I am making is that I am a UFO contactee ...and somewhere along the line of biblical paraphernalia they fit into the bible. There has to be a connection.

And the eternal damnation as Christians usually refer to doesn't exist. The long lasting nuclear radiations, from atomic explosions triggering souls disappearance (=Second Death), are this 'eternal damnation'

I am not sure what you mean here?
The Second Death is what occurs after 3 days when the spirit enters the Astral or the Etheric. In the bible this is referred to as PURGATORY.

They both mean the same.

The Second Death is painless and transgresses the soul/spirit to the spiritual realms.



In general John, you are using scripts and applying them from a book that is faulty.

I can counter act any of these quotes as the bible is filled with inaccuracy.
Eg:- "The father is greater than I"

"Why callest me good? There is none good but God"

"Before though was in they bellie I knew thee" (reincarnation)

How though sayest that Elijah must commeth first...as they knew this was John the Baptist.

"Who am I?"
"Though art The Christ" (not Jesus)

It goes on and on and speaks about the sons of god meeting the daughters of men

"Out of a whirlwind from the North" Was that Jeremiah somewhere?

John.....

Have you ever thought that this is part of the Illuminati ? Satan giving you all this?

Have you also heard of The Templars which are now the Free Masons ?

Do you know what Holy Grail really means?

The bread is Jesus's body and the wine is his blood.

In search of the holy grail means the great find of Christianity which means the DNA of Jesus taken from his blood to show that he was human.

This is what is meant by the Search for the Holy Grail.

His blood will break Christianity because it will show that he was human. His blood travels on because he was married to Mary Madeline .

Women were classed as unclean in biblical times.
Based on The Issue if Blood

Read it up.

If you study biblical history. you will find that Rome wanted to eradicate all evidence of Jesus as to leave a myth.

There were many missionary groups at that time mainly from Rome to spread false Christianity to Europe

Joseph of Arimathia spred the gospel to Britain.

The monastery paths also came from France .

This was know as The Cluniac Order

Cluniac Reforms - Wikipedia

These monks were dressed in black robes and I was one of them back in 1035 AD.

They believed in reincarnation as well as trying to show that Jesus was human.

Part of his cloth is hence buried where I had left it over 1000 years ago.

Okay this is even more crazy than what you are putting forward.

I tried focusing on these articles a few years ago and the vision nearly blinded me. I was stumbling in the dark for many minutes until I could see again. Perhaps I am not ready?

If you read my posts, there is a Jesus connection. I am not saying that I am a good holy person, only that i believe that I am connected. This is how I get my power as a psychic.

If you read my earlier posts they will amaze you. I had been told that my aura on one side is pure white . Psychics who had studied me have come up with amazing things.

My roots are from the Middle East from the Kingdom of Amathusia
Amathusia - Wikipedia

The four icons of the apostles are my guides I believe and have UFO capability.

It is all connected.

Look at my first posting on this section?
Remote Sensing

It refers to Jan Newly who worked at the church adjacent to Lenton Abbey by whome I was connected.

How do you think I hooked onto her?

Listen to the recordings as these are genuine.

The reason I knew about it, because the glass exploded in the speakers hand because he was discussing a sacred place with a load of c*ap.
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
I ask you though, As I asked them, Does it really matter that I believe God created Jesus? Would that really affect someone's salvation or Standing as a Christian?

I feel That Believing in Jesus is what's important, Not How Jesus came to be.

Well...

My dad always believed that you should hew as close to the Bible as you can.

If you don't you are playing the "how far can I stray from God and still be saved game".

I don't play that game.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Well...

My dad always believed that you should hew as close to the Bible as you can.

If you don't you are playing the "how far can I stray from God and still be saved game".

I don't play that game.
I did some reading and a little extra research on the Topic. It seems in the bible it does say, Jesus was there since the beginning and nothing was created without him. In this instance, I was Wrong, I feel it's only fair that I openly admit that. I haven't always had the right answers, But When the truth does hit me, I accept it. This time, I was wrong about the Trinity, And I feel it's important that I admit that in the wake of how big of a deal I made out of the issue.

I'm pretty ashamed about it all, to be honest.
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
Those verses don't say 'Jesus' per se but 'Word', 'him', 'life', 'light', not Jesus. What these verses depict is CHRIST who clearly embodied Jesus' body at his baptim. He THEN became Jesus Christ and started his ministry. That is why he was able to make miracles ONLY from that moment on.

The same thing will happen with Prince George, until now just a Male Child, who will become George Christ as per Rev 5...in few days.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

Jesus didn't do anything formal until he was 30 (priests couldn't serve in the Temple until they were thirty, and Jesus is the great high priest).

But we suspect he did some things because he was asked to change water to wine.

Isn't clear at what point this happened "my time is not yet come" and lack of any reference to disciples means this could have been pre-baptism.

Jesus baptism is usually interpreted as the first appearance of the three parts of the trinity independently.

I'm going to disagree that Jesus Baptism was a software upgrade. You are confusing restraint with inability.
 
Second and final part of the analysis of the 'Genesis Revisited'.

Now, the Bible tells the story of the creation of Adam and Eve. For what purpose?

Genesis 2:8 “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth”

We are far from gods wanting to appoint humans to limited hard physical tasks, hence to become slaves. We have the opposite: let the humans grow, own the land and overpower the other creatures!

The 'Genesis Revisited' webpage, using Cuneiform tablets from Sumaria, takes for granted that what these tablets speak about is the history of Sumaria from the time writing has started to pop up. This is the big mistake of this hypothesis. Why?

First, let us note that the first writings, not the alphabet which came far later in history, used symbols! That is why the Book of Genesis is mainly a series of symbolic characters and situations, later translated as litteral characters and situations to simplify the context.

Second, the biblical humans appearance around 4,000 BC matches the Sumarian writing appearance, clearly showing the sudden leap in human conceptual skills. If these new humans were to be the physical slaves of the gods (Igigu/Annunaki), why do they have these skills instead of better physical abilities that the evolution shows to be decreasing rather than increasing with time?

Why do these Igigu/Annunaki would even bother talking to their slaves about why they are here, that is to say to replace the Igigu who didn't want to physically work any more for them to report it on human Cuneiform tablets?

As for the time scale of the human presence on earth, we speak in terms of tens, and even hundreds of thousands years. The Neanderthals disappeared around 40,000 years ago, and the Homo Sapiens appeared around 300,000 years ago.

So, the only logic conclusion is that the creation of Adam and Eve (new God's human generation) in 4,000 BC coincide with the sudden ability of man to write complex ideas. THAT is the real genetic biblical jump! And this concurs the possibility to distinguish through the communication of complex ideas between good and evil.

That also means that the story of the ancient gods (Igigu/Annunaki) has been told by the Elohim (true God's angels) to this new biblical civilization, which then had the skills and opportunity to report it, to better being aware of what separates the project for the humans the 'Hebrew' omnipotent God (the Lord God) has in mind from what the older gods (Igigu/Annunaki) did to the previous humanity.

The word 'Adamu' is therefore not the first name of the first man but the very generic word for 'man'. That is why one of the poems related to the Annunaki says that he – the man - already exists. Indeed, Homo Sapiens already existed since 300,000 years.

Unlike the Bible, I don't see anywhere the word 'Eve' in the tablets related to these former gods. This can be explained by the fact that the human slaves would be stronger as men rather than women to work for mining. This clearly shows that this is 1) a different story, and 2) taking place in the (far) remote past of the Sumerian civilization, those of the Bible.

Now, the Annunaki sentence 'Bind upon it the image of the gods' could simply mean the causasian aspect of these new men (most were rather looking like Africans), still homo sapiens, then resembling the Igigu, but not the Annunaki who certainly were reptilians. Or, this genetic change could be those of the Neanderthals in a even more older period.

The Annunaki as reptilians seems to explain the snake in Genesis since he pushed Eve to eat the apple from the Tree of Knowledge (symbolical description to the temptation, of course). Why does he do this? Because Satan is the Prince of the Earth who made men their slaves in a remote past. Why is Eve tempted? Because she wants the knowledge Satan displays. And this knowledge comes from the reincarnation, the great cycle of birth and death.

Why this Tree of Knowledge is forbidden by God? Because He asked Adam and Eve to be faithful and obedient in the Garden of Eden instead.

So, this story is necessarily metaphorical of the end game. God asked Adam and Eve to be what the new humanity will eventually be: faithful and obedient. But in the meantime, after a long series of lives experiences and suffering, the humans will understand why God asked them, in the first hand, to behave that way, for there is only one good solution, HIS!

And because Adam and Eve have sinned by pride, their decendants (for all are a part of them, with their own egotic tendancy) should suffer the long process of evolution to distinguish between good and evil with the obligation to finally follow God's way through Christ's salvation.

The story of Adam and Eve is ours everyday, not theirs alone. Everyone has an ego. We are called to get rid of it, especially through faith and repentance, that means the display of obedience to God, whatever the name we give him.
 
Again a misinterpretation by way of incorrect biblical writings and mass confusion.
Could you quote Bible verses indicating I am wrong for I already quoted The Book of Revelation showing that the Last Judgment is at the end of God's Millennium, before getting our body of light, and that each one of us will be judged according to what one has done, meaning that the rapture is but one unique step and opportunity taking place in the end times (period before the Millennium of God) to be pardonned if we repent and be faithful in God's way to be taken?

John....you will believe things thousands of years old but you will not believe me.
I trust God's words, that is the Bible prophecies (including the Book of Revelation), because they have been proved by history. Why would I believe you with no proof over the Bible with proofs?

I think most here believe in UFOs in principle? Okay there are discussions on how they appear and what they want and the general philosophy on their make up.

There is a general agreement although our views may vary. The thing with UFOs is that the phenomenon is still unfolding
You may say that UFOs are the work of the devil as to lead people astray from the true biblical teachings? I cannot argue that point, but I believe that this is not the case.

There is one main principle here and that is UFOs exist and the phenomena will not die. Whatever your views are on this, is down to belief. Just like the scriptures are to us (I am not sure about the rest here, as I have not read their posts?)
I myself showed that UFO (called 'clouds') are in the Bible, along with ETs (called 'angels'). I also said that there are malevolent ETs/Satan's fallen angels and benevolent ETs/God's angels. The abductions are made by both the malevolent and benevolent ETs. Those of the malevolent ETs are made to discourage people to board benevolent ET ships when the time has come AFTER the war in heaven to rapture the chosen ones of the Great Multitude.

These malevolent abductions which took place since decades, and even centuries, triggered fear and distrust for that kind of process to make people believe that anything related to aliens is evil. This is Satan's strategy to derail the benevolent rapture operation scheduled once there will be NO MORE malevolent ships in heaven (after the war in heaven) and, therefore, to limit the number of saved people due to this fear and distrust. That is why an angel say in Revelation 12, AFTER the war in heaven episode, won by Michael and his angels:

Rev 12:10- Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.

The angel speaks about HIS brothers and sisters - other angels of God - falsely accused, in the mind of humanity, of Satan's and his minions', the fallen angels', own misdeeds when the latter used to abduct people to scare them, and, therefore trigger a massive fear and belief that all the aliens are evil, when, obviously, it is not the case.

So, along with my own experiences with them (both sides), the Bible clearly explains the stakes. If you had attentively followed my posts and watched the video(s) you would have not supposed that my belief is that the UFO phenomenon is evil since I say precisely the opposite because the majority of the ETs is benevolent, as my previous works prove it (The Science of Extraterrestrials, The ET World Referendum 'Do You Wish That We Show Up?, the May 25th 2006 Conditional Tunami Alert and The Bible Prophecies Explained At Last).

To be continued...
 
The point that I am making is that I am a UFO contactee ...and somewhere along the line of biblical paraphernalia they fit into the bible. There has to be a connection.
Happy to know that you are a UFO contactee. Of course, the Bible speaks about UFOs and ETs. I showed it in a long study presented in my first thread here, and in my video!

I am not sure what you mean here?
The Second Death is what occurs after 3 days when the spirit enters the Astral or the Etheric. In the bible this is referred to as PURGATORY.

They both mean the same.

The Second Death is painless and transgresses the soul/spirit to the spiritual realms.
No George! They do NOT mean the same as I already told you, personally. You do not listen to me. Do your homework like I did. You showed several times in this thread that you didn't know the Bible, at least not correctly, but you keep saying that it is a faulty book. How do you say it if you don't know it? Like you proved you didn't know my stances on UFO too.

As I said the expression 'Second Death' ONLY exists in the Book of Revelation...which is THE book of prophecy of Christ AFTER his resurrection and ascension. Prophecy means FUTURE. There are only four instances of verses with that expression, and it is for the end times!

The 'Second Death' IS NOT the purgatory. This is the 'lake of burning sulfur':

Revelation 2:11
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death. [meaning they will leave before the nuclear explosions in the WWIII].

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years. [this verse speaks about those among the 144,000 having the body of light before everyone else].

Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

I showed that the UFO hovered multiple times nuclear facilities since WWII when the first atomic bombs exploded. They even neutralized nuclear warheads. I showed that UFO/ET are the biblical clouds/angels. I showed that nuclear explosions disrupt the space-time fabric (the reason many ETs came, and even materialized, in the first place). The space-time fabric includes those of the spiritual realm, i.e. the dematerialization state. At last, I showed that UFO/ET materialize and dematerialize at will. THEREFORE, NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE A DANGER FOR THE DEAD AND ETS...FOR THEY DESTROY THE SOULS TOO.

SO, the 'Second Death' being the 'lake of fire' or the 'fiery lake of burning sulfur' (see above), this particular fire destroys the bodies (first death) AND the souls (Second Death). That is why the 'burning sulfur' attached to the 'Second Death' (they both define each other as seen above) is found here, STILL in the Book of Revelation (= future):

Revelation 14:10
they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. [here, the verse speaks about the use of nuclear weapons by the HUMANS, God letting Satan (the cup of God's wrath) playing his own destructive game].

Revelation 19:20
But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

Revelation 20:10
And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

So, being 'tormented for ever and ever' refers to the long lasting nuclear radiations coming after nuclear explosions where and when the souls undergoing them will disappear. In other words, this is not an eternal suffering but a figure of speech to describe the souls disappearance...forever. NO MORE OPPORTUNITY to evolve since nothing from those concerned people could evolve for there will be nothing left.

To be continued...
 
In general John, you are using scripts and applying them from a book that is faulty.

I can counter act any of these quotes as the bible is filled with inaccuracy.
Eg:- "The father is greater than I"

"Why callest me good? There is none good but God"

"Before though was in they bellie I knew thee" (reincarnation)

How though sayest that Elijah must commeth first...as they knew this was John the Baptist.

"Who am I?"
"Though art The Christ" (not Jesus)

It goes on and on and speaks about the sons of god meeting the daughters of men

"Out of a whirlwind from the North" Was that Jeremiah somewhere?
I don't see your point, George. All your quotes seem to me logical and totally relevant. How and why do you see inaccuracy in those verses? Could you elaborate?

John.....

Have you ever thought that this is part of the Illuminati ? Satan giving you all this?

Have you also heard of The Templars which are now the Free Masons ?

Do you know what Holy Grail really means?

The bread is Jesus's body and the wine is his blood.

In search of the holy grail means the great find of Christianity which means the DNA of Jesus taken from his blood to show that he was human.

This is what is meant by the Search for the Holy Grail.

His blood will break Christianity because it will show that he was human. His blood travels on because he was married to Mary Madeline .

Women were classed as unclean in biblical times.
Based on The Issue if Blood

Read it up.

If you study biblical history. you will find that Rome wanted to eradicate all evidence of Jesus as to leave a myth.

There were many missionary groups at that time mainly from Rome to spread false Christianity to Europe

Joseph of Arimathia spred the gospel to Britain.

The monastery paths also came from France .

This was know as The Cluniac Order

Cluniac Reforms - Wikipedia

These monks were dressed in black robes and I was one of them back in 1035 AD.

They believed in reincarnation as well as trying to show that Jesus was human.
Again, I don't see how all of this contradict the Bible? Maybe you are confusing what the clergy wanted the Bible to mean with what it actually means. Of course Jesus was a man. It's in the Bible. Now, the so-called 'proof' of the DNA means nothing. Do you know why? Jesus and Mary Magdelene have had children before his ministry began. It began with his baptism when Christ entered the body of Jesus. So, none could find any special divine DNA in his lineage!

I have news for you. Eve, the other future witness, was Mary Magdelene, wife of Jesus Christ. She remember her and her two children (one boy around 5, and a girl around 10) on a boat at the sunset with two other people (a man and a woman) few hundred meters from the shore of Palestine heading to France just after Jesus Christ's martyrdom and resurrection (that is probably why she was not present in the Bible in the period preceding his Ascension).

Suddenly a whirling mist surrounded that boat, with the impression of a denser air compressing them, the boat floating until now on a very calm sea without wind. Few 'minutes' later, it was about 10 o'clock, they were close to the French coast very close to a small harbour where they have been received as the wife of the Holy Prophet and the Lord, dead on the cross, and his children. They already knew who they were. Is that weird enough for you?

As you can see, this story allows everyone to see that one must distinguish Jesus and Christ, and that no one can destroy Christianity as it really is with the Son of God. As you see, you still have things to learn. NO MYTH HERE. Just a reality more complex than what both sides could imagine.

Part of his cloth is hence buried where I had left it over 1000 years ago.

Okay this is even more crazy than what you are putting forward.

I tried focusing on these articles a few years ago and the vision nearly blinded me. I was stumbling in the dark for many minutes until I could see again. Perhaps I am not ready?

If you read my posts, there is a Jesus connection. I am not saying that I am a good holy person, only that i believe that I am connected. This is how I get my power as a psychic.
You have a connection with Jesus Christ? That is great. I had, as one of his 12 disciples, and have it too. I talked about more than 200 contacts, visions and dreams with Eve.

If you read my earlier posts they will amaze you. I had been told that my aura on one side is pure white . Psychics who had studied me have come up with amazing things.

My roots are from the Middle East from the Kingdom of Amathusia
Amathusia - Wikipedia

The four icons of the apostles are my guides I believe and have UFO capability.

It is all connected.

Look at my first posting on this section?
Remote Sensing

It refers to Jan Newly who worked at the church adjacent to Lenton Abbey by whome I was connected.

How do you think I hooked onto her?

Listen to the recordings as these are genuine.

The reason I knew about it, because the glass exploded in the speakers hand because he was discussing a sacred place with a load of c*ap.
What are the four icons of the apostles? What is a UFO capability? That seems fascinating. I will read your thread soon. Thanks for it.
 
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Hello John,

I just got to go to the scrap yard to take our old copper boiler for some money before these rob dogs nick it from my mum's garden.

A bit like heaven and hell?
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Jesus did exist only as a man and prophet . A highly evolved soul.
Yes, indeed, Jesus was an highly evolved and educated man. That is why he was chosen, in the first hand, before his birth, to embody Christ, the Son of God.

You have to remember that politics was highly motivated by religion. The priests were even more powerful than the politicians. In actual fact they controlled politics until the church was divided (read Thomas Moore)

Henry VIII I think caused the desolation of the monasteries at around 1640 ?

You control the people and then you control both the politicians and the scriptures.

It is FEAR that propagates your points John.

Fear introduced by Hell and damnation and we are not talking AC/DC.
Politics and religion. Sure, they were/are intertwinted. I didn't say otherwise. BUT there is a difference between USING a book as pretense to do wrong things (thanks to oriented interpretations of it) and CREATING a book that actually existed in older pieces, well before these wrong things took place, depicting true situations, events and characters.

It is NOT my points which propagate fear. The Bible prophecies, having come true until now, could make people scared because of the announced events. BUT, if one follows the 'advices', there is no need, AT ALL, to be fearful. On the contrary, the Bible prophecies announce VERY GOOD NEWS! Why did you forget them? Is it because you have oriented beliefs?

There is no love other than caused by brainwashing and false virtues.
Mankind was never meant to live in fear but by choice.
The only choice you give them is a one way Hell damnation if they do not do what they are told.

You may say that this is God's view, but it is not. It is your view and many other peoples view brought on by superstition and fear.
The Cluniac monks and Cathers is where Christianity derived and in actual fact did not accept your view. The Cathers were the original Catholics who believed in reincarnation and hence how Catholicism got it's name.

The twisting of ordeals was not God's word but the churches.
These false virtues can be read in Genesis. The names given is not an interpretation for the same god because it refers to 'WE' meaning more than one god.

Continued later...
It is not because the clergy oriented the beliefs system when excluding reincarnation from it that the Bible doesn't contain it, as I showed it. Weird for people you make believe they controlled everything, no? Again, the Bible is ONE THING, its interpretation is ANOTHER. The clergy controlled the latter, not the Bible content for copies were spread enough BEFORE the Concile of Nicea.

Of course, the normal people couldn't access to these copies for centuries due to simple logistic problems (preservation of the still rare copies). But you go too far - that is fanatism, the very evil you think you oppose - denouncing the church. You throw the baby with his bath. Not a proof of love nor cleverness.
 
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