A quiet little post about depression and emotions.

Dundee

Fading day by day.
I have been accused of that as well Dundee.
I do tend to read her mood well though...when I try.
I think most women could come up with a long complaint list about their man or former men.
I have one of my own about my wife.
Be interesting to compare them.
One difference mate, she would argue hers is valid, yours is rubbish, or at least my ex would lol
 

Gambeir

Celestial
Some really excellent posts here. Look, everyone has psychopathic qualities. It's likely your best qualities believe it or not.

Everything depends on you use your gifts. You must see yourself as unique and with gifts and not as having problems and being defective. For example, you're only defective to a woman if you're a gay man who's married her knowing your a homo and still trying to please society and your mom. I've been told Ted Bundy was a frequent at Gay Clubs in Seattle, yet again he couldn't handle the truth about his own sexuality, pretends he's straight whilst murdering women all over the country, while still trying to somehow show mommy he's not a faggot like she constantly told him he was. Most real psychopaths develop a fractured mind because of abuse. Most have suffered extreme forms of abuse of one kind or another.


You're only defective if you're a fearless being who's also blessed with a lack of emotional stress in blood curdling situations if you've chosen to use that gift to be come another Ted Bundy, instead of a Lone Highway Patrolman somewhere's in America, or a fireman any where in the world, and then dealing with a boyfriend somewhere's on the side who's been searching the world for you to begin with. Understand? It's all about how you apply who you really are to the real world.

Understand? What you become is what you feed your soul. Trash in equals trash out. It's a personal choice most of the time. This may not be entirely true for all though. Many mass murders are recorded as saying they had no choice. They were driven to kill. However, a lack of empathy doesn't mean you're in danger of becoming another hillside strangler, or night stalker, or zodiac killer. Get that straight OK? Then remember this:

" Be careful in casting out your dragons, lest you should cast out the best parts."
 
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Kchoo

At Peace.
We compartmentalize and rationalize the emotions... To concentrate on survival.
That is easier to do when we are busy...

When it is quiet, and alone, theses things will seep to the surface...

It is important to give yourself time to feel it, let it flow through you... And release tears...

I was told tears are symbols of letting something go...

Some people will not let themselves cry... And the pain never gets released... So it can come out in other ways, including sneezes, or skin rashes, or fatigue, or adrenaline rushes... Or PTSD halucinations...

Better to cry...
 
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Dundee

Fading day by day.
We compartmentalize and rationalize the emotions... To concentrate on survival.
That is easier to do when we are busy...

When it is quiet, and alone, theses things will seep to the surface...
It is important to give yourself time to feel it, let it flow through you... And release tears...

I was told tears are symbols of letting something go...

Some people will not let themselves cry... And tge pain never gets released... So it can come out in other ways, including sneezes, or skin rashes, or fatigue, or adrenalibe rashes... Or PTSD halucinations...

Better to cry...
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
And when there are no tears left. Just an empty space where they used to be. Some say you have to hit rock bottom to find your way up. For some, rock bottom can be a pretty deep well to scale a rope from.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
And when there are no tears left. Just an empty space where they used to be. Some say you have to hit rock bottom to find your way up. For some, rock bottom can be a pretty deep well to scale a rope from.
Sometimes you need help.

Nobody said you had to climb out alone... probably shouldnt try to do it alone.
 

Athena ashford

Honorable
And when there are no tears left. Just an empty space where they used to be. Some say you have to hit rock bottom to find your way up. For some, rock bottom can be a pretty deep well to scale a rope from.

Just like kchoo said you don't have to do it alone,I personally believe you are a great person remember everytime I was feeling sad then you cheered me up .


Today I a worst quality of day I had my last exam ,the exams were great but I lost my personal diary and I can't live without it .I am a negative person or so I am always told because I see the disadvantages before knowing merits .
And I write poems whenever I am sad.
I will post it if you guys wanna see,@Dundee always sees my poem and is like a great mentor and a person I admire ( well I admire every person who knows more than me because I like learning )
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
Just like kchoo said you don't have to do it alone,I personally believe you are a great person remember everytime I was feeling sad then you cheered me up .


Today I a worst quality of day I had my last exam ,the exams were great but I lost my personal diary and I can't live without it .I am a negative person or so I am always told because I see the disadvantages before knowing merits .
And I write poems whenever I am sad.
I will post it if you guys wanna see,@Dundee always sees my poem and is like a great mentor and a person I admire ( well I admire every person who knows more than me because I like learning )
Your Poems are always beautiful Athena, you have lovely thought provoking words and a rare ability to get those words on to paper. We would be honoured to read them. My only warning is that sometimes I post in very emotional times and then sometimes in the light of day question how much I really wanted to let out. Poetry can be a deeply personal thing. Never doubt your words on paper :) Just be sure what you want to share on a sad evening, is still what your happy to have others see on a bright Sunny Morning. Other than that, we would be honored to read your beautiful words. And your Diary, I think you will get it back. I don't know why but I just think it will find its way back. Fingers crossed.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
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I just found it ,wonder if it's true ...

Look deeper to what it's objectives truly are here. It's an advertisement for taking drugs. Like, Oh yea, I'm depressed so that's hurting my body. I need to take anti-depressants>WTF? Yea, that's what I think this sign is about. Drug selling.
Drugs are not a solution to depression. Drugs only mask the real cause and make the consequences worse when they finally do come to the surface.

Depression isn't like a disease. It's a product of cause and effect. You don't just "catch depression". Depression isn't a communicable disease. Depression isn't transmitted by mosquito's or by germs. It's a form of thinking that leads to a sense of helplessness. That you're all alone, that there's no hope, that you aren't loved, will never be happy, can never be happy, ect.

Kchoo said, you don't need to go it alone. I'm saying if you try to go it alone you will either go insane, as Ted Bundy did, or you will end up destroying yourself, which ultimately is all Bundy was really trying to achieve in his own way, and ya know what? It finally did work out for him. He did manage to kill himself in a round about way. He also got even with his mom for her crimes, and somewhere there's 300 or more families that he also destroyed along the way. For big pharma this is a real success story, for the system it's a real success story, but that's another issue.

Realize that whatever you've been dealt, whatever you're dealing with, there are many, many, many others just like you. When I was a tiny little boy there was a TV show called Queen for a Day. Anyone? This crazy ass show featured people who told about their lives, all horrible BTW, and whomever had the worst stories were awarded Queen for a day.
Queen for a Day - Wikipedia

I know huh? Crazy as hell, but reality too and they don't have real shows like this anymore because that doesn't benefit the system. You don't wake up and say to yourself, well I may have a mountain load of troubles, but compared to that poor sonofabitch I'm damned lucky!

We are living in a real and true dark age. We have been for a long time and it's getting worse. Realize that most of what we hear and see and are told, well everything which isn't on the net at least, is designed. It has an objective. It is planned, and one of the biggest things that's planned is a constant state of depression infecting thoughts given off by the mass media. Depression is way of thinking. It's primarily a manifestation of mind control.
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
Look deeper to what it's objectives truly are here. It's an advertisement for taking drugs. Like, Oh yea, I'm depressed so that's hurting my body. I need to take anti-depressants>WTF? Yea, that's what I think this sign is about. Drug selling.
Drugs are not a solution to depression. Drugs only mask the real cause and make the consequences worse when they finally do come to the surface.

Depression isn't like a disease. It's a product of cause and effect. You don't just "catch depression". Depression isn't a communicable disease. Depression isn't transmitted by mosquito's or by germs. It's a form of thinking that leads to a sense of helplessness. That you're all alone, that there's no hope, that you aren't loved, will never be happy, can never be happy, ect......................................
I am Sorry but I feel I have to draw my Knight protector sword here, what you say at least in part Gambier is just plain wrong and in my opinion giving dangerous advice, and given the importance of who you responded too here Gambier I have to speak up. Saying depression is not a disease is just plain and simply wrong. It is like saying diabetes is not a disease. Depression is a complex and often debilitation condition that can in fact be caused by many, many conditions. Some temporary and environmental, I agree, some can be helped by better diet and exercise. However some forms of depression are without doubt due to chemical imbalances in the body and can only be addressed by the correction of those imbalances. And the blanket advice that Drugs are not a solution to depression is irresponsible and dangerous. I will leave this part of my response there.

My advice is this.

  • If you suspect your medication is not needed, talk to your Psychologist and GP.
  • If you are unhappy with there advice, perhaps a second (professional) opinion is in order.
  • That does not mean go GP shopping looking for someone who agrees with what you want to hear.
  • Never just stop taking medication on the advice of someone like a forum member, or even your local health food shop, or naturapath.
  • Make informed decisions that are well researched and directly applicable to your circumstances.
  • But above all, don't only listen to well meaning folks on a forum, least of all me.
My eldest son is almost 28, and my ex wife has suffered what was initially Post Natal Depression and now may or may not be something else. I have another family member battling depression, and you know at least a portion of my story. So for me that's almost 30 years of being in the middle of, and dealing with depression and the one thing it has taught me is How much I don't know.

First and foremost keep your medical providers involved. Also if your personal circumstances support it, keep your family close by, beginning with Mum and Dad, But most important of all, never make a potentially life changing or threatening decision about medication changes solely on the advice of the members of a forum, least of all me.
Take the well meaning advice with you to your professional for their thoughts if you think it may apply to you.
But never just stop medication that has been prescribed without a professional opinion.

OK, Knight protector Sword back in the scabbard.

Oh yeah,

And don't forget to wear Sunscreen :)
 
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Kchoo

At Peace.
Some 13 years ago, I was on medication prescribed by a doctor for a six month period during my divorce.

I do not like to think about the possibilities of what that time would have been like without a Doctor, Meds, and a Psychologist.

All three were valid, and equally important, and I am happier, healthier, and clearer, because of their support.

13 years, and no serious bouts of depression since, just the normal balance of all emotions. Some days are harder than others, but I learned to deal with it.. We dont want to be without our emotions, but if the chemical imbalance occurs again, I will have no problem going back on their program.

I am convinced it saved my life.
 
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Dundee

Fading day by day.
I have been on medication prescribed by a doctor for a six month period during my divorce.

I think the doctors and the meds were necessary.

I do not like to think about the possibilities of what that time would have been like without a Doctor, Meds, and a Psychologist. All three were valid, and equally important.
Well said my friend, and I can ditto the reasoning due to similar circumstances, and at some point your Doctor might change or suggest you stop taking the medication, but that will be a decision directly applicable to your circumstances. No one else's circumstances :)
Chin up mate, that part does at least get better believe it or not.I am 20 months on now, and that part at last is no longer the cause of my situation. As impossible as it seems now, it does eventually get better.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
Well said my friend, and I can ditto the reasoning due to similar circumstances, and at some point your Doctor might change or suggest you stop taking the medication, but that will be a decision directly applicable to your circumstances. No one else's circumstances :)
Chin up mate, that part does at least get better believe it or not.I am 20 months on now, and that part at last is no longer the cause of my situation. As impossible as it seems now, it does eventually get better.

Oops, my post edit was too late... I edited my post bexause it did sound too current... It was 13 years ago...
And it worked well.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
Well said my friend, and I can ditto the reasoning due to similar circumstances, and at some point your Doctor might change or suggest you stop taking the medication, but that will be a decision directly applicable to your circumstances. No one else's circumstances :)
Chin up mate, that part does at least get better believe it or not.I am 20 months on now, and that part at last is no longer the cause of my situation. As impossible as it seems now, it does eventually get better.
Glad to hear you are doing well. :clapping:
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
lol, months years whats a few earthy revolutions among friends,.....Einstein said its all relative anyway :)
 
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