Technically speaking Luis Elizondo was a counterintelligence agent during his time in the military. This isn't particularly suspicious - most counterintelligence work (about >98%) of it, involves protecting our intelligence from hostile actors; for example, keeping ISIS from finding out our troop movements so our soldiers don't stroll into a mine field on their way to an assignment.An intelligence officer has provided these three videos
Clearly the videos were taken by US military gun camera pods, and their provenance has been confirmed by multiple credible witnesses involved in the incidents. And now the US Navy has officially confirmed their provenance, and taken the further remarkable step of designating them as UAP which have intruded into our active military airspace.and their provenance is in question.
The DoD itself is the source of many contradictory statements, so I think you're pointing the finger at the wrong people.In other arenas accepting that sort of thing and overlooking various discrepancies would be seen as a farce.
TTSA is furnishing all the traction people like JG need. Their inability to coordinate their messaging and clear up the many questions that surround all this is to the point that I actually think that discord and chaos must be what they're after.
The pilots involved in the incidents saw the original hi-res footage and they've confirmed that the clips originated from those events. We have the emails detailing the declassification and public release process. And now the US Navy itself has confirmed not only the provenance of the videos but has also officially and publicly designated them as legit videos of UAP incidents. Seriously - what more could anyone possibly want at this point? The level of confirmation here is astonishing and unprecedented. I guess some folks just love to be intransigent.Unless they can actually show where the hell these videos came from and provide some verifiable detail they'll remain (to me) curiosities
Yeah, that was good work. But those old guidelines sent all of the data into a black box; the new guidelines seem to indicate a more open and transparent posture, which is good, because that data needs to be made available to Congress if we're ever going to see a loosening of the extreme secrecy that has shrouded this topic for over 70 years.OK. UAP. New guidelines. Didn't JG find an old Air Force manual that had a chapter regarding UAP contact reporting? Subsequently edited after his discovery.
Regarding the declassification and release process, the recently released emails detailing all of that have been made public. It's unclear whether you're unaware of this, or if you're being deliberately obtuse about it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you haven't been keeping up with recent developments, but JG must be aware of them and deliberately pretending they haven't happened, to sow further discord.
Noticed that whenever news comes about AATIP and TTSA, both the supporters and the opposition find something new to grasp to that supports their narratives and the dance continues. Around we go again...
, or if you're being deliberately obtuse about it
Literally the very next sentence states:
Ahhh, always the diplomat ......
yes that must be it.
If you find that you're still offended after being given the benefit of the doubt, then the problem is yours, not mine.I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you haven't been keeping up with recent developments
Literally the very next sentence states:
If you find that you're still offended after being given the benefit of the doubt, then the problem is yours, not mine.
I'm here to speak honestly and directly, and to argue my position logically and with cited facts. The upside of this stance is that nobody ever has to wonder whether I'm kissing their ass by being "politically correct," because I don't play that game.
Holy smokes - magnificent work Dean. This kind of original and substantive research elevates the discussion at these forums to a whole new level.A bit higher up in this thread, Thomas R. Morrison summarized an article published on Sept. 10, 2019, by John Greenewald Jr., owner of the website TheBlackVault.com, under the headline, "U.S. Navy Confirms Videos Depict ‘Unidentified Aerial Phenomena’." The Greenewald article contained several noteworthy quotes from Joseph Gradisher, spokesman for the office of the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare.
I subsequently asked Mr. Gradisher if he would provide me with a single uninterrupted statement on the same points, with the understanding that I would pass it on intact to other interested persons. Today (9-12-19) Mr. Gradisher responded. He said, "Mr. Greenewald did indeed quote me accurately in his recent [Sept. 10] article." Mr. Gradisher also provided an integrated statement, which I reproduce below and in the attached graphic. It contains a couple of explanatory clauses not found in the Greenewald article.
The compete Joseph Gradisher statement to me (9-12-19) follows:
"The U.S. Navy designates the objects contained in the 3 range-incursion videos that are currently being referred to in various media as unidentified aerial phenomena. The 'Unidentified Aerial Phenomena’' terminology is used because it provides the basic descriptor for the sightings/observations of unauthorized/unidentified aircraft/objects that have been observed entering/operating in the airspace of various military-controlled training ranges -- it’s any aerial phenomenon that cannot immediately be identified. 'Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)' is a term we borrowed from the UK. The Navy has not released those videos to the general public, nor authorized public release. The three videos were/are designated as unclassified." [end, Gradisher statement of 9-12-19]
Note: The Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare (OPNAV N2/N6) is a three-star admiral, who is also the Director of Naval Intelligence. Since June 2018, those coupled positions have been held by Rear Admiral Matthew J. Kohler.
As I noted earlier in this thread, on Sept. 11, 2019, Mr. Greenewald published a second article that quoted Mr. Gradisher on a few additional points of information, including the date on which each of the three videos was taken.