pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Fast forward to about 11:15. Jeremy Corbell has a different take on the Storm Area 51 event.
Special Edition - Storming Area 51
Hoooooo booooooy
Special Edition - Storming Area 51
Hoooooo booooooy
Double Nought Spy
Celestial
Dude needs better drugs.
nivek
As Above So Below
nivek
As Above So Below
I wanted to link this here, the post in the link is relevant to this thread as well...
To The Stars Academy: Investigating the Unexplained
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To The Stars Academy: Investigating the Unexplained
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nivek
As Above So Below
I'm going to steer clear of twitter for the most part, just for a few days, all these 'believers' going gaga over the fraud Lazar's book recent release, sick of reading all that brown nosing...None wants to look at the facts, yep ignore all the evidence and blindly believe the conman...Some want to tie him to TTSA, felt like vomiting at that point...
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pigfarmer
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nivek
As Above So Below
Yep, what a book, can't wait to not read it...Bruce Fenton has been pushing that book on Twitter as well as a host of others, he also mentioned days prior he had proof this large crystalline quartz space craft came to earth 400k years ago and the aliens inside that craft created all of us...Maybe the Lazar cocktail was meant for another planet...
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nivek
As Above So Below
Some say TTSA owns the publishing company that published that book, which doesn't necessarily mean they endorsed him nor support his lies...They are partially an entertainment company too aren't they?...
Yeah the thread thing, didn't want the TTSA thread to turn into an all things Bubba Lazar thread...lol
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Double Nought Spy
Celestial
The choice of that particular photo for the cover is appropriate for such a load of bollocks. Bob in his pretend physicist photo shoot!
George Knapp shamelessly appearing on the cover is almost as irksome. No wonder "normal" people write us all off as kooks.
George Knapp shamelessly appearing on the cover is almost as irksome. No wonder "normal" people write us all off as kooks.
Spaceman spiff
Noble
The publisher Interstellar is apparently linked to TTSA. Tom Delonges sisters name is also listed in the data.
I read something about Tom Delonge meeting with Bob Lazar in 2016, maybe he made some kind of a deal back then. I dont know. Its probably Tom doing this without his "advisors", he likely buys at least part of his story. Still it creates an intresting look for his company, supporting a character like Lazar publish his "true story", while Elizondo from the same company is out there in the media encouraging scientific and careful research and not jumping into conclusions and telling us "he has no idea what the phenomenon is about", and supposedly wants to help the UFO stigma go away.
Of course we dont know how much the rest of the company actually supports the story if at all, but a move like that makes it look a certain way, especially to certain people, no matter what they say. I know that Eric Davis has gone on record and thinks its crap.
I read something about Tom Delonge meeting with Bob Lazar in 2016, maybe he made some kind of a deal back then. I dont know. Its probably Tom doing this without his "advisors", he likely buys at least part of his story. Still it creates an intresting look for his company, supporting a character like Lazar publish his "true story", while Elizondo from the same company is out there in the media encouraging scientific and careful research and not jumping into conclusions and telling us "he has no idea what the phenomenon is about", and supposedly wants to help the UFO stigma go away.
Of course we dont know how much the rest of the company actually supports the story if at all, but a move like that makes it look a certain way, especially to certain people, no matter what they say. I know that Eric Davis has gone on record and thinks its crap.
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nivek
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I don't think TTSA supports Lazar just because they are tied to a publishing company that happens to publish his book...Lazar could have chosen that publishing company because of its ties to TTSA in a totally selfish move himself...
My opinion is this, if for instance I owned a publishing company it does not reflect my views or stance if that company published books I don't care for or do not agree with and I think its the same with TTSA...They may own or be tied to that publishing company but they don't have to agree with everything that is being published through that business...I doubt TTSA is censoring what that company publishes, I lean towards Lazar himself choosing that company to publish his book to get more sold, he is playing the market and banked on TTSA fame, using the situation to his advantage...
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Spaceman spiff
Noble
Yeah, i think his recent resurfacing has something to do with the 2017 unveiling. He wanted to profit on their coat tails.
Double Nought Spy
Celestial
No publisher has to publish anything they don't want to. If there is any connection at all between that publisher and TTSA, then the decision to promote the Lazar book is incredibly bad judgment. If it's some schlock publisher just looking for some quick bucks, then it's just business as usual but still bad judgment. Credibility is of utmost importance to TTSA, and having anything at all to do with such garbage is just plain stupid. It's not terribly different than a guy named Steinberg having a Nazi on his show and trying to rationalize the train wreck by saying the show was not about Nazis.
It would not be terribly surprising to me if it turned out Delonge believes the two-bit scam artist Lazar. I'm sure the people who actually run things (and do damage control when Delonge posts one of his brain farts) have better sense.
I've come to the conclusion that George Knapp's claim to being a journalist is as bogus as Lazar's claim to being a physicist. He's a TV personality and that's all.
It would not be terribly surprising to me if it turned out Delonge believes the two-bit scam artist Lazar. I'm sure the people who actually run things (and do damage control when Delonge posts one of his brain farts) have better sense.
I've come to the conclusion that George Knapp's claim to being a journalist is as bogus as Lazar's claim to being a physicist. He's a TV personality and that's all.
Spaceman spiff
Noble
Yeah im wondering if Tom alone is behind this, what are his advisors really thinking, and why is he allowed to run solo? They should realize this will cast a shadow on all of their reputations.
These are not good business decisions, especially if you want to have a solid reputation on a field as disparaged as this, and lessen the stigma. Unless this is all just part of some plan.
These are not good business decisions, especially if you want to have a solid reputation on a field as disparaged as this, and lessen the stigma. Unless this is all just part of some plan.
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Spaceman spiff
Noble
Youd think that business would multiply a million fold if you actually proved them real. You could cash in on the entire planet instead of just the fringe community.
Give us something solid, then the money will really flow in. Im waiting.
Unless youre not in the business for that, but for something else... like this guy was?
Give us something solid, then the money will really flow in. Im waiting.
Unless youre not in the business for that, but for something else... like this guy was?
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wwkirk
Divine
The pot calling the kettle....
nivek
As Above So Below
THE BOB LAZAR FRAUD
December 1997
(Updated January 2011)
By Stanton T. Friedman
Pierce College
Incredible claims have been made about Bob Lazar for years. He supposedly is a physicist with an MS in Physics from MIT and an MS in Electronics from the California Institute of Technology. He was a “Scientist” for Los Alamos National Laboratory, and obtained a job back-engineering UFOs at a very secret site S-4 near Area 51 in Nevada through noted Physicist, the late Dr. Edward Teller.
Supposedly he figured out how saucers work using Element 115 — matter/anti-matter, etc. He was able to steal a small quantity of 115 from the 500 pounds available, but this was stolen back. There was indeed an announcement in early 2004 about the production of 4 atoms of element 115 by operating a huge European accelerator for many weeks. It has a very short half life so there is no way to accumulate pounds of it. He supposedly came forward with his story despite death threats because he thought the public has a right to know. Videotapes are available with his claims.
It is all BANK.
Not one shred of evidence has been put forth to support this story: No diplomas, no résumés, no transcripts, no memberships in professional organizations, no papers, no pages from MIT or Caltech yearbooks. He also mentioned, in a phone conversation with me, California State University at Northridge and Pierce Junior College — also in the San Fernando Valley, California. I checked all four schools. Pierce said he had taken electronics courses in the late 1970s. The other three schools never heard of him.
The page from the Los Alamos National Lab phone book with Lazar’s name on it clearly states that it includes employees of the DOE and outside contractor, Kirk Meyer. “K/M” follows Lazar’s name. This proves he worked for K/M, not LANL.
I checked with LANL’s personnel department for Lazar’s name and that of an old colleague. They found my guy, but not Lazar.
He was publicly asked when he got his MS from MIT. He said “Let me see now, I think it was probably 1982.” Nobody getting an MS from MIT would not know the year immediately. He was asked to name some of his profs, He said: “Let’s see now, Bill Duxler will remember me from the physics department at Caltech.” I located Dr. Duxler. He’s a Pierce Junior College physics prof, and never taught at Caltech. Lazar was registered in one of his courses at the same time Lazar was supposedly at MIT! Nobody who can go to MIT goes to Pierce JC, not to mention the rather long commute between LA and Cambridge, Mass.
I checked his High School in New York State. He graduated in August, not with his class. The only science course he took was chemistry. He ranked 261 out of 369, which is in the bottom third. There is no way he would have been admitted by MIT or Caltech. An MS in Physics from MIT requires a thesis. No such thesis exists at MIT, and he is not on a commencement list. The notion that the government wiped his CIVILIAN records clean is absurd. I checked with the Legal Counsel at MIT — no way to wipe all his records clean. The Physics department never heard of him and he is not a member of the American Physical Society.
When he declared bankruptcy in the mid 1980s for almost $300,000.00 he listed his occupation as a self-employed film processor. With MS degrees from MIT and Caltech? Caltech would not have accepted him for an MS program, if he already had one from MIT.
His propulsion scheme sounds good (as do many science fiction stories), but makes no real sense especially in view of how difficult it would be to add protons to #115. Gravity wave amplification sounds great but what does it mean?
He could not have gotten a Compartmentalized Security clearance having operated a brothel. His W-2 form from the Department of Naval Intelligence totals under $1000.00, at most a week’s pay for a scientist. You can’t get a security clearance in a week.
Scientists leave trails. Lazar is NOT a scientist. He couldn’t even answer scientific questions put to him. An excellent review of Bob’s “Physics” can be seen at web.archive.org/web/20061220030435/http://www.serve.com/mahood/lazar/critiq.htm.
I should add that Bob is a bright and talented guy who operated a jet powered car, put on fireworks displays, and apparently helped physics professors working at the Los Alamos Meson accelerator facility.
Editor’s update: Element 115, which lies directly below bismuth in the Periodic Table, does exist as mentioned above. It was first synthesized in a particle accelerator in 2003 by a joint team of Russian and American scientists, and since 2016 has officially carried the name moscovium. Like all superheavy synthetic elements, it’s highly radioactive and short-lived. So far only about a hundred atoms of it have been prepared, with atomic weights ranging from 287 to 290. Moscovium's half-lives increase directly with atomic weight, however — from 0.0037 seconds for 287Mc to 0.650 seconds for 290Mc. Should some other technology come on line capable of synthesizing these kinds of elements with higher atomic weights, or similar natural cosmic processes be discovered, it’s conceivable heavier moscovium isotopes might turn out to be relatively stable.
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December 1997
(Updated January 2011)
By Stanton T. Friedman
Pierce College
Incredible claims have been made about Bob Lazar for years. He supposedly is a physicist with an MS in Physics from MIT and an MS in Electronics from the California Institute of Technology. He was a “Scientist” for Los Alamos National Laboratory, and obtained a job back-engineering UFOs at a very secret site S-4 near Area 51 in Nevada through noted Physicist, the late Dr. Edward Teller.
Supposedly he figured out how saucers work using Element 115 — matter/anti-matter, etc. He was able to steal a small quantity of 115 from the 500 pounds available, but this was stolen back. There was indeed an announcement in early 2004 about the production of 4 atoms of element 115 by operating a huge European accelerator for many weeks. It has a very short half life so there is no way to accumulate pounds of it. He supposedly came forward with his story despite death threats because he thought the public has a right to know. Videotapes are available with his claims.
It is all BANK.
Not one shred of evidence has been put forth to support this story: No diplomas, no résumés, no transcripts, no memberships in professional organizations, no papers, no pages from MIT or Caltech yearbooks. He also mentioned, in a phone conversation with me, California State University at Northridge and Pierce Junior College — also in the San Fernando Valley, California. I checked all four schools. Pierce said he had taken electronics courses in the late 1970s. The other three schools never heard of him.
The page from the Los Alamos National Lab phone book with Lazar’s name on it clearly states that it includes employees of the DOE and outside contractor, Kirk Meyer. “K/M” follows Lazar’s name. This proves he worked for K/M, not LANL.
I checked with LANL’s personnel department for Lazar’s name and that of an old colleague. They found my guy, but not Lazar.
He was publicly asked when he got his MS from MIT. He said “Let me see now, I think it was probably 1982.” Nobody getting an MS from MIT would not know the year immediately. He was asked to name some of his profs, He said: “Let’s see now, Bill Duxler will remember me from the physics department at Caltech.” I located Dr. Duxler. He’s a Pierce Junior College physics prof, and never taught at Caltech. Lazar was registered in one of his courses at the same time Lazar was supposedly at MIT! Nobody who can go to MIT goes to Pierce JC, not to mention the rather long commute between LA and Cambridge, Mass.
I checked his High School in New York State. He graduated in August, not with his class. The only science course he took was chemistry. He ranked 261 out of 369, which is in the bottom third. There is no way he would have been admitted by MIT or Caltech. An MS in Physics from MIT requires a thesis. No such thesis exists at MIT, and he is not on a commencement list. The notion that the government wiped his CIVILIAN records clean is absurd. I checked with the Legal Counsel at MIT — no way to wipe all his records clean. The Physics department never heard of him and he is not a member of the American Physical Society.
When he declared bankruptcy in the mid 1980s for almost $300,000.00 he listed his occupation as a self-employed film processor. With MS degrees from MIT and Caltech? Caltech would not have accepted him for an MS program, if he already had one from MIT.
His propulsion scheme sounds good (as do many science fiction stories), but makes no real sense especially in view of how difficult it would be to add protons to #115. Gravity wave amplification sounds great but what does it mean?
He could not have gotten a Compartmentalized Security clearance having operated a brothel. His W-2 form from the Department of Naval Intelligence totals under $1000.00, at most a week’s pay for a scientist. You can’t get a security clearance in a week.
Scientists leave trails. Lazar is NOT a scientist. He couldn’t even answer scientific questions put to him. An excellent review of Bob’s “Physics” can be seen at web.archive.org/web/20061220030435/http://www.serve.com/mahood/lazar/critiq.htm.
I should add that Bob is a bright and talented guy who operated a jet powered car, put on fireworks displays, and apparently helped physics professors working at the Los Alamos Meson accelerator facility.
Editor’s update: Element 115, which lies directly below bismuth in the Periodic Table, does exist as mentioned above. It was first synthesized in a particle accelerator in 2003 by a joint team of Russian and American scientists, and since 2016 has officially carried the name moscovium. Like all superheavy synthetic elements, it’s highly radioactive and short-lived. So far only about a hundred atoms of it have been prepared, with atomic weights ranging from 287 to 290. Moscovium's half-lives increase directly with atomic weight, however — from 0.0037 seconds for 287Mc to 0.650 seconds for 290Mc. Should some other technology come on line capable of synthesizing these kinds of elements with higher atomic weights, or similar natural cosmic processes be discovered, it’s conceivable heavier moscovium isotopes might turn out to be relatively stable.
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