'Flat Earthers' who reject basic science

Tate

Honorable
Landings on what multiple planets...? Nothing has returned from Mars that I know of and moon samples have been analyzed and explained years ago. What samples are you specifically referring to..? No offense but imho those that buy into conspiracies on this are conspiracy minded to begin with. Sorry if that offends you.
The 'evidence' you named for EBE's in the past is old news from believers regarding the ancient astronaut ideas... ....sadly none of it convinces real scientists (who would love to find real alien life imho...) but does convince ....sorry again...the conspiracy fans.
Regarding the here and now while many people claim to have weird experiences I'm not convinced in any way that it's real aliens from outer space.

Do you really think they have listed all probes and satellites they have sent? Do you think space travel is a new idea? Do you think Soil Samples have not been analyzed by machines we send out? Yes, I do believe in Conspiracies as in the Literal definition of them. I do believe our governments and unknown entity's have withheld and covered up information for Centuries on these Subjects. A Real Scientist would already know the government hides stuff because he is on the governmental pay roll. Where do you think Grants come from. Ancient Astronauts are not what i am referring to i am referring to a much more blasphemous past with these things.
 

dr wu

Noble
Do you really think they have listed all probes and satellites they have sent? Do you think space travel is a new idea? Do you think Soil Samples have not been analyzed by machines we send out? Yes, I do believe in Conspiracies as in the Literal definition of them. I do believe our governments and unknown entity's have withheld and covered up information for Centuries on these Subjects. A Real Scientist would already know the government hides stuff because he is on the governmental pay roll. Where do you think Grants come from. Ancient Astronauts are not what i am referring to i am referring to a much more blasphemous past with these things.
I'm sorry Tate...I';m just not a conspiracy theorist.....I tend to think along more rational lines , and I think you will end up being disappointed in life because none of these things you believe in will ever be revealed.,,...does that answer your questions?
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Do you really think they have listed all probes and satellites they have sent? Do you think space travel is a new idea? Do you think Soil Samples have not been analyzed by machines we send out?

A Real Scientist would already know the government hides stuff because he is on the governmental pay roll. Where do you think Grants come from.

Yes as I've said they've taken numerous soil samples on Mars.....just no other planets and the moon is not a planet.
So I'll ask the question of you again....what other planets have humans landed on?

Just so you know not all real scientists work for the government.....lol....:rofl:.....I am glad you know some grants come from the government.

Many scientists work in the private sector.....like myself. It doesn't help to be anti-science.....:facepalm:
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Landings on what multiple planets...? Nothing has returned from Mars that I know of and moon samples have been analyzed and explained years ago. What samples are you specifically referring to..?

Very good questions....wonder if we'll get an answer.

They've taken numerous samples on Mars and analyzed in in place....and have shown many amazing things like confirming the existence of water.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Number 2. The Light from the moon... It comes from our sun. The moon gives off no light by it's self. It simply reflects the trace amounts of sunlight.

Number 4. NASA has told us some lies in the past and hide some stuff but when it comes to earth it's self. I would say they have told us 75% of the truth and gave us empirical data to go along with there claims.

Thank you....I've known the moon was reflecting light since I was 8.

Of course governments hide things.....I've seen many people who believe everything they see on their media.....but in some cases secrets are required. There has likely never been a government that had no secrets....and if there was it didn't last long.

What is it they are hiding about the earth?
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
btw...there are a couple of conspiracy notions around Bacon....including the Shaksepeare controversy of writing the plays.
;)

I remember hearing so about Shakespeare over the years.....some were quite funny....but that's all I remember.

I know there are many conspiracy theorists out there that believe everything they see on their media.....but some of them either don't know their history or have no problems agreeing with known psychopaths.

Some of the most ardent ones are against the Zionist movement and are anti-Semitic as well, against big business, international banking, large governments and the communists. It is these people that really need help or to be put away somewhere.
 

Tate

Honorable
Thank you....I've known the moon was reflecting light since I was 8.

Of course governments hide things.....I've seen many people who believe everything they see on their media.....but in some cases secrets are required. There has likely never been a government that had no secrets....and if there was it didn't last long.

What is it they are hiding about the earth?

What are they hiding about earth? Many different things if you want to believe it. Pick one man there is minute conspiracies about how old the earth is, all the way up to hollow Earthers. Have fun with it and see if it plays out to be true.
 

Tate

Honorable
I remember hearing so about Shakespeare over the years.....some were quite funny....but that's all I remember.

I know there are many conspiracy theorists out there that believe everything they see on their media.....but some of them either don't know their history or have no problems agreeing with known psychopaths.

Some of the most ardent ones are against the Zionist movement and are anti-Semitic as well, against big business, international banking, large governments and the communists. It is these people that really need help or to be put away somewhere.

The only things i Disagree with is Large Governments and Communism. You missed on the rest of that suff. The only person i know that is even close to being a Psychopath is me. lol, I am a Sociopath Less Violent, Do not lie, and have two people i have bonded with maybe one depending. As far as hating people goes, Honestly i do not think twice about people through the day, Too busy with my own life except today, i have all day free. The only media i readily consume is Horror Narrations on youtube or the S.C.P Stuff it is fake but awesomely written. What about you do you watch Cable TV? CNN? FOX? any of those? If so you are more programmed than me.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
What are they hiding about earth? Many different things if you want to believe it. Pick one man there is minute conspiracies about how old the earth is, all the way up to hollow Earthers. Have fun with it and see if it plays out to be true.

ok I'll pick the one I see in the empirical data.....thanks. So you are just pretending that there are conspiracies....this is obvious.

I'll leave you be as you don't know any answers....and like most conspiracy theorists wouldn't answer if it disagreed with their ideas.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
The only things i Disagree with is Large Governments and Communism. You missed on the rest of that suff. The only person i know that is even close to being a Psychopath is me. lol, I am a Sociopath Less Violent, Do not lie, and have two people i have bonded with maybe one depending. As far as hating people goes, Honestly i do not think twice about people through the day, Too busy with my own life except today, i have all day free. The only media i readily consume is Horror Narrations on youtube or the S.C.P Stuff it is fake but awesomely written. What about you do you watch Cable TV? CNN? FOX? any of those? If so you are more programmed than me.

I wasn't talking about you.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
See Dr Wu, They took samples of Mars and analyzed it right there on Mars. Who is to say they do not have many more prob's out there doing the same thing? That is what i was trying to Convey but you keep asking me for Empirical evidence that will blow open every Conspiracy out there. Knowing full well i can not provide it.

Actually there being soil samples collected on Mars didn't answer his questions.....and besides he wasn't asking for empirical evidence, but instead was asking for what other planets were also sampled.
 

Tate

Honorable
Actually there being soil samples collected on Mars didn't answer his questions.....and besides he wasn't asking for empirical evidence, but instead was asking for what other planets were also sampled.

Which planet did we just slam a probe into? Seriously, i forgot. I believe we have launched prob's to all planets within our system and have tried to send them out into our galaxy. Even launched some with random trajectories. If that helps and sorry figured you was with Dr Wu in calling me a Conspiracy nut nicely. I only believe in a few and have no evidence to actually prove those but i am building a case for a couple. One of them being E.B.E's have guided human Physical development for Centuries. Sorry again CY.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Which planet did we just slam a probe into? Seriously, i forgot. I believe we have launched prob's to all planets within our system and have tried to send them out into our galaxy. Even launched some with random trajectories.

Yes we have sent probes to most of the planets....and the voyagers have finally left the solar system since they were launched in the 1970s. However this does not count as "soil samples have been collected on numerous planets".....which still is unanswered by the way.
 

Tate

Honorable
Yes we have sent probes to most of the planets....and the voyagers have finally left the solar system since they were launched in the 1970s. However this does not count as "soil samples have been collected on numerous planets".....which still is unanswered by the way.

Why would you send a probe to a planet and not gather Data from wind speeds to soil samples? You just said they sent probe's to most planets... Right? Then there should be data on them besides Jupiter is big and Saturn has rings...
Where is that Data? And why has it not been published? That is with holding information if not outright lying about not having it. I think they did this because they have found some Evidence of Life and are Withholding it. We went in a big circle on this one. lol. Also once Again Life is not just Sentient beings like me and you CY it counts for a variey of things.
 

dr wu

Noble
I'm not a planetary scientist but I don't think we have taken 'soil samples' on any place except for the moon and Mars.
There isn't any 'soil' on the other planets from what science says....unless you classify rock and other crap 'soil'.
And I'm betting that data has been released on other probes to scientists but we aren;t in that loop. That doesn't make it a conspiracy imho.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
The only other place besides the moon or mars I think we earthlings have analyzed mineral compositions through some physical means is on an asteroid...
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I'm not a planetary scientist but I don't think we have taken 'soil samples' on any place except for the moon and Mars.
There isn't any 'soil' on the other planets from what science says....unless you classify rock and other crap 'soil'.
And I'm betting that data has been released on other probes to scientists but we aren;t in that loop. That doesn't make it a conspiracy imho.

That's pretty much what I've seen as the data is pretty clear as to what they've found....and on Mars they are still hoping to find some sort of microbial life as I said. The moon isn't what I'd call soil....but we've collected dust and rocks from the moon.

I agree that's all of the collected samples of for laboratory analyses. The probes haven't found surface to land on when they've tried on Venus and Jupiter. There are probes planned for Io and Titan where they hope to find liquid water and at least microbial life. I don't think we've had probes try and land on places like Saturn, Uranus, Pluto or Neptune just yet. They've just sent orbital probes to them.
 

Tate

Honorable
That's pretty much what I've seen as the data is pretty clear as to what they've found....and on Mars they are still hoping to find some sort of microbial life as I said. The moon isn't what I'd call soil....but we've collected dust and rocks from the moon.

I agree that's all of the collected samples of for laboratory analyses. The probes haven't found surface to land on when they've tried on Venus and Jupiter. There are probes planned for Io and Titan where they hope to find liquid water and at least microbial life. I don't think we've had probes try and land on places like Saturn, Uranus, Pluto or Neptune just yet. They've just sent orbital probes to them.

When did they do that and when did we hear about it? It took a long time before we even got the news that they studied Mars Soil. So, To say they have nothing would be foolhardy because tomorrow the might release soil samples from Uranus. lol, Unless someone on here can present me a Chief of staff badge for NASA it's self. All this is Moot.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
When did they do that and when did we hear about it? It took a long time before we even got the news that they studied Mars Soil. So, To say they have nothing would be foolhardy because tomorrow the might release soil samples from Uranus. lol, Unless someone on here can present me a Chief of staff badge for NASA it's self. All this is Moot.

Spirit and Opportunity landed on Mars in 2004. Opportunity is still operating.....Curiosity landed on Mars in August 2012. Both are now searching for ancient landforms where liquid water was found, looking for fossils and old lacustrine deposits where life could have existed. If they find enough actual moisture the hope is to find microbial life.
 
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