Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

nivek

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Don't worry about it - The way things are going there will no revolutionaries, government,
or people to revolt against.

I'd be more concerned with the viral revolution that could end the World
- at least for Humans.

I was, in the early stages, very skeptical - Thought it was some kind of New World Order
plot to enslave the World or terrorist bio-weapon attack that went wild.

At this stage does the origin really matter? If we don't gain control of the situation
its game over for Humanity.

If this coronavirus doesn't take us out, the swine flu may...Thanks China...

A new strain of Swine Flu emerging from China

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AD1184

Celestial
We saw earlier in the pandemic reports (that have since been corroborated) that many infected with SARS-CoV-2 do not generate virus-specific antibodies when they get over the infection, or at least not very many of them:

Low antibody levels raise questions about coronavirus reinfection risk

There has been much speculation that many of these people may have a T-cell-mediated immunity to the virus instead. This seems to have been confirmed for the first time in a study undertaken in Sweden (that is not yet through peer review):

More could have Covid immunity than tests suggest

T-cells are immune system cells that can also have a memory for pathogens the body has fought off in the past and protect the body in the future, a bit like antibodies, but those are proteins and not cells. T-cell-mediated immunity is far more difficult to detect than antibodies, requiring specialized equipment, so a relatively limited volume of such tests may be carried out.

There are some important implications of this, if true: antibody surveillance studies may be underestimating the spread of the virus and the level of immunity already acquired in the population. It may also allay some of the fears about the lack of antibodies observed in a significant proportion of infected people.
 

nivek

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Almost 60,000 new confirmed cases today, all new highs again but I have no doubt there are thousands more carrying the virus in some form that do not even know they have it...I do not see anything coming from the federal government as far as real help, they have no plan, they have nothing for the American people and seem unwilling to stop this pandemic...Yes I am talking about the Legislative branch as well as the Executive branch, their inaction across the board is pathetic and inexcusable...

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nivek

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Arizona coronavirus patients will 'be given a score based on life expectancy and underlying conditions' to determine whether or not they're put on a ventilator as hospitals near capacity in several states
  • Hospitals in several states where coronavirus cases are surging such as Arizona, Mississippi and Texas are pushing capacity
  • In Arizona, more than 3,000 people are hospitalized and ICU capacity reached 91%
  • If Arizona hospitals push past capacity, patients will be given a score to determine whether or not they're placed on a ventilator
  • Texas Medical Center hospitals announced that their ICU capacity surpassed 100%, requiring new and converted beds to be opened
  • In Mississippi, more than 70% of ICU beds are occupied and coronavirus cases topped 1,000 for the first time since the pandemic began
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nivek

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REVEALED: The 'stupid mistakes' Victoria made in its response to the state's second COVID-19 outbreak - which now threaten to plunge the whole country into another coronavirus crisis

The Victorian coronavirus outbreak which now threatens to spread across Australia and undo the good work of months battling the pandemic was sparked by multiple mistakes. Commentators and experts have pinned the blame for the sudden surge on Daniel Andrews' response to Melbourne's Black Lives Matter protest, alleged lapses in quarantine by security guards in the state's hotel program, sluggish contact tracing and poor outreach to multicultural communities, among other errors. The city's second outbreak has already resulted in an infected traveller reintroducing the virus to the Northern Territory, and other states have taken steps to halt travel from Victoria - which suffered through the country's toughest lockdown measures when the pandemic first reached Australian shores.


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AD1184

Celestial
After destroying the economy with their extremely late action on the coronavirus pandemic, the British government has chosen today, the fourth of July, to re-open large sectors of the hospitality industry in a last-ditch effort to promote some economic activity, virus be damned. This is supposed to be according to a list of rules which almost nobody knows, and even fewer are abiding by, judging by the pictures from across the country. The epidemic in this country is still pretty serious, with daily death figures usually exceeding the combined EU total (27 other countries).

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Count the number of masks. I'm sure all of the closely-congregating and embracing groups of people are all from the same household.
 

nivek

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Spain locks down an area near Barcelona with 400,000 people after spike in coronavirus cases just as Britons prepare to head out there on long-awaited summer holidays

Spain's Catalonia region has locked down a county of more than 400,000 people following a surge in coronavirus cases - just as Brits prepare to go there on holiday. The western Catalan city of Lleida and the rest of Segrià county was put under lockdown from midday today. 'We have decided to confine the del Segria zone following data confirming a sharp rise in COVID-19 infections,' Catalonia's regional president Quim Torra told reporters, adding that no one would be allowed to enter or leave the area.

Around 431,183 people live in Lleida, according to 2019 figures, which is 173.9km inland from Barcelona.

It comes after the UK Government lifted restrictions to let people living in England travel to the country on 'air bridges' - meaning holidaymakers won't have to go into quarantine as long as they return to England on or after July 10.

'We are taking a step back to protect ourselves and control the outbreak,' said Torra, who described the measure as a 'difficult decision.'

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nivek

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Screaming woman is ordered out of her car as police enforce total lockdown of Melbourne housing commission block amid COVID-19 spike - as Premier Andrews issues a chilling warning to the state

Police physically restrained a woman (centre) outside a Melbourne housing commission block as they enforced a total lockdown to contain a localised outbreak of COVID-19. The lockdown of public housing towers in Melbourne could be just the beginning for Victoria unless the community transmission rate of COVID-19 suddenly slows. Premier Daniel Andrews took the extreme step of locking the doors to nine housing towers (left) from 4pm on Saturday amid fears the virus is spreading rapidly within their walls.

The 'hard lockdown' will see 3,000 people in towers across Flemington, Kensington and North Melbourne forced to stay inside - with armed police (left and top right) ensuring they do not leave for any reason over the next five days. The health concerns driving the stricter lockdown are attributed to crowded living and shared spaces, such as lifts. A total of 108 new cases of COVID-19 were detected in Victoria on Friday - just three shy of the highest total at the peak of the pandemic - leading Mr Andrews to again warn the entire state could be put back into lockdown if things do not soon improve.


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nivek

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Coronavirus's closest ancestor 'was found SEVEN YEARS ago in a bat-infested mine in China' where it killed three out of six miners who got sick with a SARS-like disease, investigation reveals

A virus 96 per cent identical to the coronavirus that causes Covid-19 was found in an abandoned mine in China seven years ago, according to an investigation. The bat-infested copper mine in Mojiang, western China, was home to a coronavirus that left six adult men sick with pneumonia and three of them dead. Scientists took samples from the bats' faeces, found on the cave floor, and stored them in a laboratory 1,000 miles away in Wuhan for years while studying them.

And last December, Wuhan became the source of a global coronavirus pandemic which has now infected more than 11million people and killed 525,000.

That virus, named RaBtCoV/4991 at the time, now appears to be the closest relative to SARS-Cov-2, which is causing Covid-19, a Sunday Times investigation has found. But Chinese researchers do not seem to have been forthcoming about the fact they found such a similar virus almost a decade ago in 2012, and especially not that it killed three men when it was discovered.

The virus has reportedly featured in only one widely-available scientific paper and that didn't mention the fact it had caused fatal pneumonia in humans. The discovery that something very similar to Covid-19 was circulating in bats in Mojiang - half of bats tested in the mine were carrying at least one type of coronavirus - has raised doubts about the true source of SARS-CoV-2.

The official story has been that the Covid-19 virus jumped from an animal - thought to be a pangolin - to humans at Hunan Seafood Market in Wuhan city. From there it spread throughout the population in the densely-populated city, which is a transport hub, and then onto trains and planes and around the world within weeks. But it could have been spreading elsewhere first, and even Chinese authorities have since admitted that the market was a 'victim' of the epidemic rather than its source.

Dr Peter Daszak, a British animal disease expert, told The Sunday Times: 'It didn't emerge in the market, it emerged somewhere else.'


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nivek

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After destroying the economy with their extremely late action on the coronavirus pandemic, the British government has chosen today, the fourth of July, to re-open large sectors of the hospitality industry in a last-ditch effort to promote some economic activity, virus be damned. This is supposed to be according to a list of rules which almost nobody knows, and even fewer are abiding by, judging by the pictures from across the country. The epidemic in this country is still pretty serious, with daily death figures usually exceeding the combined EU total (27 other countries).

The American Federal government and State governments, as you know, have wrecked our economy with their extremely late and futile efforts to stop this epidemic in the US and now the Federal government is all but saying 'Learn to live with it', but the correct phrase is 'learn to die with it'...Our Federal government has failed completely in this pandemic and currently failing at upholding the rule of law in this country, seems we're teetering on the edge...

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nivek

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Alabama Students Allegedly Throwing “Covid-19 Parties” To See Who Gets Infected First

Alabama students are allegedly throwing “Covid-19 parties” as part of a stupid game to intentionally infect each other with a disease that has so far killed hundreds of thousands of people in the US alone.

Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry was the first to blow the whistle on this potentially deadly game that students in Alabama have been playing. She claims that organizers of so-called Covid-19 parties are intentionally inviting people infected with the disease to see who catches it from them first. As crazy and unfathomable as that sounds, this shocking behavior has been confirmed by the Chief of the Tuscaloosa Fire Department, who told the City Council that such parties had been held for weeks.

“We thought that was kind of a rumor at first,” Fire Chief Randy Smith told the council members. “We did some research. Not only do the doctors’ offices confirm it but the state confirmed they also had the same information.”

Sonya McKinstry said that she had recently learned of these parties and immediately informed the local council about them. Apparently, students who willingly attend these dangerous events, “put money in a pot and they try to get COVID; whoever gets COVID first gets the pot”.

“It makes no sense, they’re intentionally doing it,” McKinstry said. “But I think when you’re dealing with the mind frame of people who are intentionally doing stuff like that and they’re spreading it intentionally, how can you truly fight something that people are constantly trying to promote?”

The Tuscaloosa City Councilor has expressed concern that people may attend Covid-19 parties not knowing their intent and be exposed to infected guests. So far it is unclear if coronavirus-infected students managed to infect anyone at the parties they attended, but since that is the point of them being there, I would say the probability of that is pretty high.

“We’re trying to break up any parties that we know of,” McKinstry told ABC News.

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nivek

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‘They Want to Kill Me’: Many Covid Patients Have Terrifying Delirium

Paranoid hallucinations plague many coronavirus patients in I.C.U.s, an experience that can slow recovery and increase risk of depression and cognitive issues.

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To a startling degree, many coronavirus patients are reporting similar experiences. Called hospital delirium, the phenomenon has previously been seen mostly in a subset of older patients, some of whom already had dementia, and in recent years, hospitals adopted measures to reduce it.

“All of that has been erased by Covid,” said Dr. E. Wesley Ely, co-director of the Critical Illness, Brain Dysfunction and Survivorship Center at Vanderbilt University and the Nashville Veteran’s Administration Hospital, whose team developed guidelines for hospitals to minimize delirium.


Now, the condition is bedeviling coronavirus patients of all ages with no previous cognitive impairment. Reports from hospitals and researchers suggest that about two-thirds to three-quarters of coronavirus patients in I.C.U.’s have experienced it in various ways. Some have “hyperactive delirium,” paranoid hallucinations and agitation; some have “hypoactive delirium,” internalized visions and confusion that cause patients to become withdrawn and incommunicative; and some have both.

The experiences aren’t just terrifying and disorienting. Delirium can have detrimental consequences long after it lifts, extending hospital stays, slowing recovery and increasing people’s risk of developing depression or post-traumatic stress. Previously healthy older patients with delirium can develop dementia sooner than they otherwise would have and can die earlier, researchers have found.

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nivek

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Second Spanish region goes back into lockdown after new Covid outbreak just as Britons prepare to fly out on long-awaited summer holidays

A second Spanish region made up of 70,000 people is going back into lockdown after a new coronavirus outbreak. Entry into and out of La Marina, which lies 90 miles east of La Coruna in Galicia, will be banned from midnight tonight and gatherings of more than ten people will be banned to limit the possibility of contagion. Locals will not be stopped from moving within the 14 municipalities that make up the region.

The use of face masks will also be made mandatory at all times outdoors, including on beaches and swimming pools. Bars and restaurants will have to respect new closing times and tighter restrictions on the number of customers. The lockdown follows a new Covid-19 outbreak which has seen 106 people test positive for the virus. Local reports say all those who don't live in La Marina will have to leave the area at midnight tonight or stay for the next five days.

It comes after Spain's Catalonia region yesterday locked down a county of more than 400,000 people following a surge in coronavirus cases - just as Brits prepared to go there on holiday. The western Catalan city of Lleida and the rest of Segrià county was put under lockdown from midday on Saturday.

'We have decided to confine the del Segria zone following data confirming a sharp rise in COVID-19 infections,' Catalonia's regional president Quim Torra told reporters, adding that no one would be allowed to enter or leave the area.

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nivek

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'A second wave won't be long in the making!' Exhausted police officer predicts fresh Covid spike after 'long late shift peppered with pub fights, drunken violence and drunken, drugged-up fools'
  • Thousands of drinkers seized upon yesterday's wave of lockdown easing to enjoy their first pints since March
  • But as the revelry grew into the night, crowds gathered and appeared to show no regard for social distancing
  • London's Soho and Borough Market areas were heaving yesterday with drinkers bunched together on street
  • Police in Leicester, where there is a local lockdown, said they put more officers on duty than New Year's Eve
  • Pub bosses in Nottinghamshire decided to shut early after disorder broke out near to their watering holes
  • West Midlands Police reported a spike in reports of fights and domestic abuse and made four pub arrests
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Standingstones

Celestial
It truly boggles the mind that humans are acting this way. Purposely trying to catch and pass on the Corona virus is simple stupid on so many levels.
 

nivek

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Puzzling study detects coronavirus in Spain wastewater from March 2019
  • Researchers from Spain studied wastewater samples from Barcelona going back to January 2018 and found evidence of the novel coronavirus in samples from March 2019.
  • The discovery is puzzling, given the characteristics of COVID-19 outbreaks. The highly contagious respiratory illness would have ravaged Barcelona several months before the Wuhan epidemic, but that did not happen.
"Separately, researchers from various countries have been able to prove that COVID-19 hit communities well before the first cases were officially confirmed by PCR tests. Doctors in France found patients that had COVID-19-like symptoms back in November 2019 and detected the virus in frozen samples from a different patient that was treated in a hospital for flu-like symptoms in late December 2019. Italian doctors said their first COVID-19 cases must have dated back to January, while other Italian researchers found coronavirus traces in wastewater from two major northern towns dating back to mid-December. US studies said the first COVID-19 patients may have been infected in late December, and that sustained community transmission had started even earlier than previous estimates. A different study that looked at mapping data for Wuhan hospitals found unusual parking lot activity in August and September of 2019......"
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Puzzling study detects coronavirus in Spain wastewater from March 2019


And the source/origin is also still questionable
- I know people don't want to believe and as far as we know, or 'they' are telling us,
it can't be shown or proved that
this was not some type of bio-weapon or terrorist attack - Just don't rule that out !

Here's something more on this, its an interesting read and hypothesis, definitely more research needs to be done...

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Exclusive: Covid-19 may not have originated in China, Oxford University expert believes

Coronavirus may have lain dormant across the world and emerged when environmental conditions were right for it to thrive - rather than starting in China, an Oxford University expert believes.

Dr Tom Jefferson, senior associate tutor at the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM), at Oxford, and visiting professor at Newcastle University, argues that there is growing evidence that the virus was elsewhere before it emerged in Asia.

Last week, Spanish virologists announced they had found traces of the disease in samples of waste water collected in March 2019, nine months before the coronavirus disease was seen in China.

Italian scientists have also found evidence of coronavirus in sewage samples in Milan and Turin, in mid-December, many weeks before the first case was detected, while experts have found traces in Brazil in November.

Dr Jefferson believes that many viruses lie dormant throughout the globe and emerge when conditions are favourable. It also means they can vanish as quickly as they arrive.

"Where did Sars 1 go? It’s just disappeared," he said "So we have to think about these things. We need to start researching the ecology of the virus, understanding how it originates and mutates."

"I think the virus was already here, here meaning everywhere. We may be seeing a dormant virus that has been activated by environmental conditions."

"There was a case in the Falkland Islands in early February. Now where did that come from? There was a cruise ship that went from South Georgia to Buenos Aires, and the passengers were screened and then on day eight, when they started sailing towards the Weddell Sea, they got the first case. Was it in prepared food that was defrosted and activated?"

"Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918 around 30 per cent of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu, and they hadn’t had any communication with the outside world."

"The explanation for this could only be that these agents don’t come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should be looking for."

Dr Jefferson believes that the virus may be transmitted through the sewage system or shared toilet facilities, not just through droplets expelled by talking, coughing and sneezing.

Writing in The Telegraph, Dr Jefferson and Professor Carl Henegehan, Director of the CEBM, call for an in-depth investigation similar to that carried out by John Snow in 1854, which showed cholera was spreading in London from an infected well in Soho. Exploring why so many outbreaks happen at food factories and meatpacking plants could uncover major new transmission routes, they believe. It may be shared toilet facilities coupled with cool conditions that allow the virus to thrive.

"We’re doing a living review, extracting environmental conditions, the ecology of these viruses which has been grossly understudied," said Dr Jefferson. "There is quite a lot of evidence that huge amounts of the virus in sewage all over the place, and an increasing amount of evidence there is faecal transmission. There is a high concentration where sewage is four degrees, which is the ideal temperature for it to be stabled and presumably activated. And meatpacking plants are often at four degrees."

"These meat packing clusters and isolated outbreaks don’t fit with respiratory theory, they fit with people who haven’t washed their hands properly."

"These outbreaks need to be investigated properly with people on the ground one by one. You need to do what John Snow did. You question people, and you start constructing hypotheses that fit the facts, not the other way around."


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Dr. Miles Beckett thinks that the current data points to a surge in infections and deaths in the US over the next two months that will make the last few months look like a preamble:

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I wish I could see a reason to argue with him about it.
 

AD1184

Celestial
Dr. Miles Beckett thinks that the current data points to a surge in infections and deaths in the US over the next two months that will make the last few months look like a preamble:

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I wish I could see a reason to argue with him about it.

The US is being fairly reckless, but it may not be as bad as that. The case surge is more than two weeks old by this point, but the overall trend in the number of new deaths is still downward.
 
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