Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation
Spaceman spiff
Noble
Couple of episodes were decent, but rest was pretty much filler that didnt go anywhere. We learned a couple of new things at least about the Nimitz and Roosevelt incidents.
nivek
As Above So Below
Yeah I just hope they don't flat line in season two by dredging up 50+ year old cases...
...
Spaceman spiff
Noble
I guess that shows how much food they have left on the table. If they bring up old cases alot, it tells me they dont have much left or at least dont have access to them anymore.
Theres probably alot of intresting cases around the world one could discover that the western world has never heard of, if they went out and searched it, in Asia, Africa, Russia etc. Id suspect alot of it is also buried in the highly classified archives of their governments, including ofc US, but can they get their hands to it is a whole another story.
Lets remember that altough AATIP was there, it was a small program with a comparatively miniscule budget. Likely the safe poster boy to bring out. As I recall, it ultimately wasnt even granted SAP status, tough Reid tried to get it. So tough i find the Nimitz case pretty impressive, its likely the best cases out there were for the most part out of their reach.
So ultimately I doubt Elizondo and company can force "disclosure" with this, if that is their goal, its more likely theyre allowed in testing the temperature.
Theres probably alot of intresting cases around the world one could discover that the western world has never heard of, if they went out and searched it, in Asia, Africa, Russia etc. Id suspect alot of it is also buried in the highly classified archives of their governments, including ofc US, but can they get their hands to it is a whole another story.
Lets remember that altough AATIP was there, it was a small program with a comparatively miniscule budget. Likely the safe poster boy to bring out. As I recall, it ultimately wasnt even granted SAP status, tough Reid tried to get it. So tough i find the Nimitz case pretty impressive, its likely the best cases out there were for the most part out of their reach.
So ultimately I doubt Elizondo and company can force "disclosure" with this, if that is their goal, its more likely theyre allowed in testing the temperature.
Last edited:
Spaceman spiff
Noble
Ive heard theres at least some new sightings or incidents discussed, so thats good.
Standingstones
Celestial
This is why I have always doubted DeLonge, Elizondo and company could bring about “disclosure.” If Harry Reid, who was the Senate Majority leader at that time, couldn’t make disclosure happen, how can we expect some civilian group to bring forth this information.
nivek
As Above So Below
Yeah joking aside, they may have a few good episodes with new information, that would be great...
...
Spaceman spiff
Noble
Last episode wasnt that intresting, but to be fare to Elizondo and Co, they never really personally commented on that Chile thing, it was mentioned by the narrator but not touched.
Last edited:
Todd Feinman
Show us the satellite pics...
The other night I watched the latest episode: "The UFO Cover-Up". Witness testimony describing the Tic-tac is just like so many other UFO sightings over the decades --they often enter the atmosphere looking like a sudden shooting star, and then stop dead in the air. There are a number of exactly the same kinds of descriptions of UFOs from many decades before (Austria, etc., in the Historic Newspapers thread at Fortean Forum). The same kinds of technologies are being used.
What really shocked the hell out of me was the witness who came forward in the last part of the episode to describe the encounter by the new military helicopter being tested over the southern US. They apparently encountered three of thee objects I did. I am sure they are the same. The rendering in my avatar is also exactly like the animation I saw. And their behavior was the same --show up suddenly near you and then take off at ridiculous speeds. It was hard to watch actually and I didn't get to sleep until about 4:00 am, after the show.
Here's the thing..
The whole Unidentified series is a slow disclosure campaign being run under the auspices of the Pentagon. It is quite simple. Elizondo and Justice and Bigelow are always talking about the tons of footage and debris, etc. They are only able to go so far in discussing things and have to keep themselves in check constantly --it must be maddening. And they don't really connect the obvious dots and thus keep the non-human explanation at arm's length. By investigating relatively tame encounters and ignoring the historical accounts of these devices, they prevent individuals unfamiliar with the situation from connecting the dots too, so they stay ahead of the disclosure, circling around the truth, while winking the whole time. There are ALL kinds of trans-medium UFOs described in shocking detail in those old articles --they might flash one of them on the screen, but no...
Tom DeLonge, a talented writer and youth culture contact is part of the deal --they are very transparent about this in their literature. They don't want input from folks like us because they already know what we know and we are publicly discussing it.
They have created a channel from the US military to the population of the US in popular culture that can remain open and be used and create a level of disclosure --just as we are undergoing a level of contact / surveillance from somewhere else.. Layers of an onion; levels of disclosure, based on need to know. Need to know? Why do we need to know more now, eh? Because they're in action again, and the military is worried, and there is fracturing going on within the secret structure of the US government. There's something flying around Ye Olde Nuclear Clock.
In ancient times they were around, watching. During the Airship Wave after the industrial revolution they came back with a vengeance, scanning cities and infrastructure and populations and our new technologies. Then the wars --they were there, as we know; silver balls, etc. Then mass sightings all over the world through '40s and 50s (hey you stupid apes! What the hell are you doing to this oasis?!) Then the missile tests --constant observation at White Sands and over every base and installation in US. through the '60s. And then when our destruction is nicely prepared and in the silos and bombers...All of the warnings and sightings at missile installations so well documented by Hastings and others...
(Hey you stupid apes! What the hell are you doing to this oasis?!).
Any smart AI system would give an estimate of situation with half of the data. Any smart enough AI system could see that we are stupid apes and on a path to nuclear war, accidental or not. A lot of scientists can.
Any smart enough AI system could see that we are stupid apes and on a path to nuclear war, accidental or not.
Remember the paper that was floated about the universe being a simulation? Imagine all 0f our information is trivial to nothing for these things --they would know everything about everyone, predict our actions far in advance; we are gerbils.
Shocking surgical appearances, appearing to some and not others (active camouflage), trans-medium travel, we are not in control of the situation and the military knows it.
Don't mention Russian or Chinese technology. As if the Chinese or Russians had this totall different stuff after WWII and would routinely fly over nuclear and military assets where they might crash or be shot down, taking us to nuclear war. Please. It's ridiculous.
UFOs: What To Do?
Two Interesting UFO Documents: The “Smith Memo” (1950) and Physicist Robert Sarbacher’s 1983 Letter
What really shocked the hell out of me was the witness who came forward in the last part of the episode to describe the encounter by the new military helicopter being tested over the southern US. They apparently encountered three of thee objects I did. I am sure they are the same. The rendering in my avatar is also exactly like the animation I saw. And their behavior was the same --show up suddenly near you and then take off at ridiculous speeds. It was hard to watch actually and I didn't get to sleep until about 4:00 am, after the show.
Here's the thing..
The whole Unidentified series is a slow disclosure campaign being run under the auspices of the Pentagon. It is quite simple. Elizondo and Justice and Bigelow are always talking about the tons of footage and debris, etc. They are only able to go so far in discussing things and have to keep themselves in check constantly --it must be maddening. And they don't really connect the obvious dots and thus keep the non-human explanation at arm's length. By investigating relatively tame encounters and ignoring the historical accounts of these devices, they prevent individuals unfamiliar with the situation from connecting the dots too, so they stay ahead of the disclosure, circling around the truth, while winking the whole time. There are ALL kinds of trans-medium UFOs described in shocking detail in those old articles --they might flash one of them on the screen, but no...
Tom DeLonge, a talented writer and youth culture contact is part of the deal --they are very transparent about this in their literature. They don't want input from folks like us because they already know what we know and we are publicly discussing it.
They have created a channel from the US military to the population of the US in popular culture that can remain open and be used and create a level of disclosure --just as we are undergoing a level of contact / surveillance from somewhere else.. Layers of an onion; levels of disclosure, based on need to know. Need to know? Why do we need to know more now, eh? Because they're in action again, and the military is worried, and there is fracturing going on within the secret structure of the US government. There's something flying around Ye Olde Nuclear Clock.
In ancient times they were around, watching. During the Airship Wave after the industrial revolution they came back with a vengeance, scanning cities and infrastructure and populations and our new technologies. Then the wars --they were there, as we know; silver balls, etc. Then mass sightings all over the world through '40s and 50s (hey you stupid apes! What the hell are you doing to this oasis?!) Then the missile tests --constant observation at White Sands and over every base and installation in US. through the '60s. And then when our destruction is nicely prepared and in the silos and bombers...All of the warnings and sightings at missile installations so well documented by Hastings and others...
(Hey you stupid apes! What the hell are you doing to this oasis?!).
Any smart AI system would give an estimate of situation with half of the data. Any smart enough AI system could see that we are stupid apes and on a path to nuclear war, accidental or not. A lot of scientists can.
Any smart enough AI system could see that we are stupid apes and on a path to nuclear war, accidental or not.
Remember the paper that was floated about the universe being a simulation? Imagine all 0f our information is trivial to nothing for these things --they would know everything about everyone, predict our actions far in advance; we are gerbils.
Shocking surgical appearances, appearing to some and not others (active camouflage), trans-medium travel, we are not in control of the situation and the military knows it.
Don't mention Russian or Chinese technology. As if the Chinese or Russians had this totall different stuff after WWII and would routinely fly over nuclear and military assets where they might crash or be shot down, taking us to nuclear war. Please. It's ridiculous.
UFOs: What To Do?
Two Interesting UFO Documents: The “Smith Memo” (1950) and Physicist Robert Sarbacher’s 1983 Letter
Last edited: