Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
YUP.
Next is Covid-20.
One look and you got.
You're dead in 5 steps.

Coming soon...mandate, that everybody now will have to wear blindfolds.

I was about to cut eye holes in a pillow case and pull it over my head .... but that would be poor timing these days.....
 

nivek

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I've lost faith in the accuracy of the numbers and the record keeping, I've lost faith in humanity actually wanting to end this pandemic...Seems its going to be herd immunity that finally stops it, mask mandates don't seem to work, warnings and precautions are ignored by the ignorant, no one in general seems to care how many die from covid...

I just know I do not have covid and have not had it previously nor have I been exposed to it...I wear a mask in public and have very little contact with anyone, simple and a no brainer to me...People are required to wear shoes and clothing to enter a store, so no big deal to wear a mask...Its not like I'm spending hours and hours in the shops, just get what I need and leave promptly, simple...

If the world ends anytime soon as a result of covid or the elections or something else that's on its way, you'll find me in the Appalachian mountains with my dog...Well, no you won't find me but good luck trying lol...

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AD1184

Celestial
I got this piece of rubbish in my news feed:


https://nypost.com/2020/04/26/scien...the-coronavirus-lockdowns/?mod=article_inline

The fatality rate in New York State has exceeded 0.1% of the population, never mind of the infected.

The author (a medical doctor and Stanford academic) is mentioning the now-discredited Stanford study and also the USC study which has provided very little backing for its claims, and which drew inferences from a very low rate of prevalence, in a study of fewer people than the Stanford one and which would also likely have been plagued by similar issues with the test used. Not to mention that it is thought possible that there is a less deadly strain on the US West Coast, and also that Californians live in an entirely different climate to New Yorkers. His other links do not even substantiate what he is on about.

The idea that there is a single fatality rate which remains to be conclusively determined is a nonsense. If life-saving intervention makes any difference to the outcome for someone with severe Covid (and there is plenty of evidence that it does), then the access to that treatment has a huge effect on that rate. Access depends on the demand, and if the demand is overwhelming then the fatality rate is going to increase greatly. There are a range of other factors on which the risk depends, besides age.

He says the risk of death for someone 18-45 is 0.01 percent. He also links to an Oxford University webpage (with the display text 'far lower') which completely contradicts this in a range of estimates from different sources, saying it is many multiples of this value.

There are so many things wrong with this I don't have time to go through all of them. It just goes to show that if someone is a medical doctor, they can still be a moron.

What is it with Stanford?
I learned recently that the author of that opinion piece in the New York Post, Scott Atlas, has been made an advisor to Donald Trump on coronavirus, despite being a neuroradiologist, and not having any public health, infectious disease, or epidemiological experience. Likely because he will be telling Trump the sorts of things he wants to hear.
 

nivek

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AD1184

Celestial
I think it's quite interesting how in the early days, when the virus was largely confined to China and South East Asia, the conspiracy theories surrounding coronavirus were that the Chinese were down-playing the severity and that thousands more were dying of it than they were admitting to, with a greatly higher fatality rate. Now that the virus has escaped the east and is endemic to much of the west, the conspiracy theories are largely that the whole thing is a hoax, or greatly exaggerated for the purpose of control.
 

The shadow

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nivek

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I think it's quite interesting how in the early days, when the virus was largely confined to China and South East Asia, the conspiracy theories surrounding coronavirus were that the Chinese were down-playing the severity and that thousands more were dying of it than they were admitting to, with a greatly higher fatality rate. Now that the virus has escaped the east and is endemic to much of the west, the conspiracy theories are largely that the whole thing is a hoax, or greatly exaggerated for the purpose of control.

I had someone the other day tell me the matrix owns me and I'm a fool for believing this virus hoax and proceeded to also state to me that my uncle did not die of covid-19 and I'm not very bright for believing that conclusion..."How can someone die from virus that doesn't exist?" He said...

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nivek

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Coronavirus may dice heart muscle fibers into tiny snippets, remove cells' DNA

This snipping of muscle fibers, which could permanently damage heart cells, is scary enough in a lab dish; but the researchers found evidence that a similar process could be happening in the hearts of COVID-19 patients as well. However, the new finding, which was published to the preprint database bioRXiv on Aug. 25, has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal, or proven to happen in people.

The finding is unlike anything researchers have seen before — no other disease is known to affect heart cells in this way. "What we were seeing was completely abnormal," study co-author Todd McDevitt, a senior investigator at Gladstone Institutes, a nonprofit research organization in San Francisco, said in a statement.

The new finding may explain how COVID-19 inflicts damage to the heart. Previous studies have found signs of heart abnormalities in COVID-19 patients, including inflammation of the heart muscle, even in relatively mild cases.


(More on the link)

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AlienView

Noble
People with arthritis report worsening symptoms during Covid-19 lockdown

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People with arthritis experienced a ‘roller coaster’ of emotions and saw their symptoms worsen during the Covid-19 lockdown – according to research from the University of East Anglia.

A 12-week survey of 264 people with inflammatory arthritis (such as rheumatoid arthritis) found that 39 per cent of patients reported worsening symptoms, and 42 percent experienced lower energy levels.

The majority also spoke of emotional fluctuations - from feeling positive to being isolated, depressed and anxious.

The research team have set out a series of recommendations so that health professionals can better support those at risk of poor health and wellbeing during the Covid-19 pandemic. They hope their work will help people cope better with pain, worry and symptoms during this time........"

People with arthritis report worsening symptoms during Covid-19 lockdown.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
People with arthritis report worsening symptoms during Covid-19 lockdown

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People with arthritis experienced a ‘roller coaster’ of emotions and saw their symptoms worsen during the Covid-19 lockdown – according to research from the University of East Anglia.

A 12-week survey of 264 people with inflammatory arthritis (such as rheumatoid arthritis) found that 39 per cent of patients reported worsening symptoms, and 42 percent experienced lower energy levels.

The majority also spoke of emotional fluctuations - from feeling positive to being isolated, depressed and anxious.

The research team have set out a series of recommendations so that health professionals can better support those at risk of poor health and wellbeing during the Covid-19 pandemic. They hope their work will help people cope better with pain, worry and symptoms during this time........"

People with arthritis report worsening symptoms during Covid-19 lockdown.

Slow news day, eh? My brother has RA. Long way to go to say 'you get nuts when locked up a long time'
 

nivek

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So I was reading through various sources in regards to this vaccine trial being halted seemingly abruptly in my view and two things about this disturbs me, one is a definite 'Red Alert' which I guess is why they're conducting a safety review...
In early-stage trials, AstraZeneca’s vaccine candidate — built from an innocuous virus known to cause common colds in chimpanzees and engineered to carry coronavirus genes — yielded promising safety data in people, although several participants experienced mild or moderate side effects including fevers and aches.
Why are they using apes viruses to create a vaccine for humans?...However safe it may be or thought to be this is a big NO to me...Is it possible that using animal viruses on humans can cause serious and unknown results?...Well apparently so...
a participant had developed a serious neurological condition.
But many details about the trial’s suspension and the event that triggered it remain murky. Researchers do not yet know what caused the volunteer’s symptoms, how long the evaluation process will take or what the consequences might be.
More than 10,000 adult volunteers were dosed with AstraZeneca’s vaccine in the company’s Phase 2/3 trial in the United Kingdom, where the participant fell ill.
Something happened to ONE test subject out of ten thousand, however it apparently was/is so serious that all testing ceased immediately...What happened to this individual, what sort of condition is he or she in?...Its quoted they aren't sure what the consequences will be, what does that mean?...Did we create a Mr. Hyde? (sorry couldn't resist dropping that in here)...Will the other 9,999 test subjects show a delay of what happened to that one?...Some of them I bet are very worried...

Seriously though, this cannot be swept aside, we need to know what happened and why, we as in the public, after all the public is going to be the end user...All testing and information about these vaccines must be available for all to see and be honest documents...

Safety Review Underway of AstraZeneca's Vaccine Trial

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nivek

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Has a long term coronavirus vaccine ever been created and utilized?...What I mean is, like a yellow fever vaccination which is lifelong, have there been other coronavirus vaccines which work that way?...The flu is always changing so there's never going to be a long term vaccine, same goes for the cold, what I'm getting at is covid is most likely going to be like the cold and flu, seasonal and always mutating which leaps us from having a long term once only vaccination against it...

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AD1184

Celestial
Has a long term coronavirus vaccine ever been created and utilized?...What I mean is, like a yellow fever vaccination which is lifelong, have there been other coronavirus vaccines which work that way?...The flu is always changing so there's never going to be a long term vaccine, same goes for the cold, what I'm getting at is covid is most likely going to be like the cold and flu, seasonal and always mutating which leaps us from having a long term once only vaccination against it.
There are no coronavirus vaccines that have come to market, except Russia's dodgy SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. They were developing one for the original SARS, but that virus disappeared before they could complete it.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
What I'm reading here is 'do what they say or you'll not see your family again'...

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nivek

As Above So Below
A game-changer for this covid pandemic?...

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University of Pittsburgh scientists discover antibody that 'neutralizes' virus that causes coronavirus

Scientists at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine have isolated “the smallest biological molecule” that “completely and specifically neutralizes” the virus that causes coronavirus.

The antibody component is 10 times smaller than a full-sized antibody, and has been used to create the drug Ab8, shared in the report published by the researchers in the journal Cell on Monday. The drug is seen as a potential preventative against SARS-CoV-2.

According to the report, the drug has been “highly effective in preventing and treating” the SARS-CoV-2 infections in mice and hamsters during tests. The drug also reportedly does not bind to human cells, which suggests it will not have negative side-effects in people.

“Ab8 not only has potential as therapy for COVID-19, but it also could be used to keep people from getting SARS-CoV-2 infections,” said co-author John Mellors, chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Pitt and UPMC. “Antibodies of larger size have worked against other infectious diseases and have been well tolerated, giving us hope that it could be an effective treatment for patients with COVID-19 and for protection of those who have never had the infection and are not immune.”

Xianglei Liu of Pitt is also co-lead author of the study.

Researchers are also “thinking outside the box” for how the drug could be administered, stating it may be able to be inhaled or through a superficial injection, instead of an IV.

According to the report, the team at University of Texas Medical Branch Center for Biodefense and Emerging Diseases and Galveston National Laboratory tested Ab8 and found it blocked the virus from entering cells. In mice trials, those treated with Ab8 had 10-fold less of the amount of infectious virus compared to those that were untreated.


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nivek

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If this quoted part of the article is suggesting wearing masks for many years to come, that's not reality to me, I have no intentions on wearing masks for years, no...A year or two as a means to an end yes, like the pandemic a century ago, but wearing masks until herd immunity whenever that happens, no, that's not realistic to wear a mask for many years to come, not unless people are dropping dead in droves, if this virus became extremely deadly...I never have liked wearing these masks, I don't think anyone does, but I can tolerate it and accept it for a short time, which for me is about 2 years max, basing this from the previous pandemic timeframe...

SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the COVID-19 infection, will likely become seasonal “in countries with temperate climates” following herd immunity, according to a press release on the study’s findings. But until then, study authors said the novel virus will “continue to circulate across the seasons.”
"COVID-19 is here to stay and it will continue to cause outbreaks year-round until herd immunity is achieved. Therefore, the public will need to learn to live with it and continue practicing the best prevention measures, including wearing of masks, physical distancing, hand hygiene and avoidance of gatherings,” said Dr. Hassan Zaraket, of the American University of Beirut in Lebanon and senior author of the study, in a statement.

Could the novel coronavirus become a seasonal virus? New study suggests yes — but not yet

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