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nivek

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Would he use the national guard to arrest and imprison Americans who land in New York?...

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Gov. Andrew Cuomo Deploys National Guard To Airports, Warns People Not To Land Without ‘Proof Of A Negative Test’

Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is sending the Army National Guard and additional police officers to airports in an effort to enforce coronavirus restrictions on travel. In addition, Cuomo warned travelers that they should not plan to land in his state unless they could show “proof of a negative test upon landing.”

Cuomo sent members of the New York National Guard to airports several weeks ago, per NBC New York, but announced Friday that he planned to increase that number. He also reportedly said that he had spoken with Democratic New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio in order to coordinate utilizing members of the New York Police Department for the same initiative.

As coronavirus cases and hospitalizations increased nationwide, Cuomo scrapped his initial plan to ban travel from certain hotspots in favor of calling for proof of a negative test upon arrival, reported NBC New York.

According to the new plan, all visitors traveling to New York — and residents who leave the state and return within 24 hours — must quarantine for at least three days and then get tested, per the report. If that test comes back negative, the quarantine can be lifted.

Those who are traveling to New York from other states of residence must reportedly take a test within three days prior to travel and show the results upon arrival. They must still observe the three-day quarantine and an additional test before traveling freely within the state.

Those opting not to get tested after three days must quarantine for a full 14 days upon arrival.


 

nivek

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It's out of control, we're going to have a really rough winter...The US with over 130,000 new cases today, France over 800 deaths and a worldwide total of over 9000 deaths today...

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pigfarmer

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Would he use the national guard to arrest and imprison Americans who land in New York?...

@pigfarmer @wwkirk

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Gov. Andrew Cuomo Deploys National Guard To Airports, Warns People Not To Land Without ‘Proof Of A Negative Test’

Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is sending the Army National Guard and additional police officers to airports in an effort to enforce coronavirus restrictions on travel. In addition, Cuomo warned travelers that they should not plan to land in his state unless they could show “proof of a negative test upon landing.”

Cuomo sent members of the New York National Guard to airports several weeks ago, per NBC New York, but announced Friday that he planned to increase that number. He also reportedly said that he had spoken with Democratic New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio in order to coordinate utilizing members of the New York Police Department for the same initiative.

As coronavirus cases and hospitalizations increased nationwide, Cuomo scrapped his initial plan to ban travel from certain hotspots in favor of calling for proof of a negative test upon arrival, reported NBC New York.

According to the new plan, all visitors traveling to New York — and residents who leave the state and return within 24 hours — must quarantine for at least three days and then get tested, per the report. If that test comes back negative, the quarantine can be lifted.

Those who are traveling to New York from other states of residence must reportedly take a test within three days prior to travel and show the results upon arrival. They must still observe the three-day quarantine and an additional test before traveling freely within the state.

Those opting not to get tested after three days must quarantine for a full 14 days upon arrival.




I suppose he can try but I chalk it up to more hot air. That sounds a lot like 'you get arrested for three days if you land w/o a test' First I've heard of it so I wonder how much if any enforcement is being done. You would think there would be howling publicly over that.

If I got on a flight at Heathrow and had a negative test that morning does it mean I haven't been infected how many hours later JFK after encountering how many people along the way?

What about residents who live close to the border and cross/return all the time ? So, my buddy goes grocery shopping and the National Guard won't let him back in even though he's only traveled 5 miles?

Prepare for ridiculous speed ! with a lot of this
 

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Gov. Andrew Cuomo Deploys National Guard To Airports, Warns People Not To Land Without ‘Proof Of A Negative Test’

Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is sending the Army National Guard and additional police officers to airports in an effort to enforce coronavirus restrictions on travel. In addition, Cuomo warned travelers that they should not plan to land in his state unless they could show “proof of a negative test upon landing.”
That's not how PCR tests work. They cannot confirm 'negativity'. Also, wasn't this the same guy who said at the peak of the New York epidemic last spring that it would be 'un-American' for neighbouring states to impede outward travellers from his state?
 
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Denmark Will Eliminate Its Entire Mink Population as COVID Mutation Spreads to Humans

Denmark plans to cull its more than 15 million mink population over fears that a mutation of the novel coronavirus in the animals has spread to humans.

During a press conference on Wednesday, Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said that at least 12 people have been infected with the mutated virus, which originated in its mink farms.

According to ABC News, Health Minister Magnus Heunicke said that half of the 783 human COVID-19 cases in northern Denmark ”are related” to mink. (In total, the country has at least 51,042 COVID-19 cases in humans and over 725 deaths, per The New York Times)

“It is very, very serious,” Frederiksen said, adding that their decision to eliminate the country's entire mink population also stemmed from fears that the mutation may create difficulties for the efficacy of future vaccines. “We have a great responsibility towards our own population, but with the mutation that has now been found, we have an even greater responsibility for the rest of the world as well,” she said, according to Reuters.

According to ABC News, it will cost Denmark — the world's largest producer of mink furs — up to 5 billion kroner ($785 million) to cull the country's 15 million minks.

Overall, there are between 15 and 17 million minks on about 1,100 farms in Denmark.

A COVID-19 outbreak in mink population has also recently spread in the United States, specifically at fur farms across Wisconsin, Michigan and Utah.

Last month, a spokesperson for the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection confirmed to PEOPLE that more than 2,000 minks have died since animals at a farm in Taylor County tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, a virus that causes COVID-19 in humans.

The Michigan Department of Agricultural & Rural Development also announced last month that minks at one of the state's fur farm in the state tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. In Utah, nearly 10,000 minks have died of COVID-19 at nine different fur farms, NBC News reported on Oct. 9.

"Minks show open mouth breathing, discharge from their eyes and nose, and are not sick for several days before they pass away," Utah veterinarian Dr. Dean Taylor told NBC News. "They typically die within the next day."

Minks were first discovered to be susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 in April when farms in the Netherlands suffered several outbreaks in its animal population, the Associated Press reported. Outbreaks among minks in Spain have since been detected.

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The British government has banned entry to travellers from Denmark. Other countries should follow suit. Denmark should have banned outward travel on Wednesday. All who have recently travelled abroad from Denmark should be traced, isolated and monitored.
UK coronavirus LIVE: UK slaps Denmark travel ban over mink strain

If this strain were to increase the fatality rate, the transmissibility, or to require a different immune response from the body, then it could be calamitous. It could cause a repeat of the whole pandemic, if the immune characteristics are different, as any existing immunity would not count and the vaccines would need to be redeveloped. Saying that such an outcome is 'unlikely' is not really an adequate response.
 
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nivek

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The British government has banned entry to travellers from Denmark. Other countries should follow suit. Denmark should have banned outward travel on Wednesday. All who have recently travelled abroad from Denmark should be traced, isolated and monitored.
UK coronavirus LIVE: UK slaps Denmark travel ban over mink strain

If this strain were to increase the fatality rate, the transmissibility, or to require a different immune response from the body, then it could be calamitous. It could cause a repeat of the whole pandemic, if the immune characteristics are different, as any existing immunity would not count and the vaccines would need to be redeveloped. Saying that such an outcome is 'unlikely' is not really an adequate response.

I've been watching this, it could be completely disastrous not only for the human species but a mink coronavirus could make it easier to spread to dogs and cats causing a disastrous outcome for their species....Denmark must be completely quarantined and isolated, I mean completely and no one seems to be thinking it could get any worse...They are wrong and could be risking millions of lives...

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We have reached a new record for the number of people dying every day from the disease around the world:
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Coronavirus Death Toll and Trends - Worldometer

There were 9,205 people reported to have died yesterday, and the seven-day moving-average rate is currently at 7,594 per day. Both of these figures are the highest they have been since the pandemic started in January. This compares to a recent minimum of around 5,000 people dying per day at the start of last month. The death rate has increased just over 50% since then. This is likely due to the approaching northern hemisphere winter.
 

nivek

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The British government has banned entry to travellers from Denmark. Other countries should follow suit. Denmark should have banned outward travel on Wednesday. All who have recently travelled abroad from Denmark should be traced, isolated and monitored.
UK coronavirus LIVE: UK slaps Denmark travel ban over mink strain

If this strain were to increase the fatality rate, the transmissibility, or to require a different immune response from the body, then it could be calamitous. It could cause a repeat of the whole pandemic, if the immune characteristics are different, as any existing immunity would not count and the vaccines would need to be redeveloped. Saying that such an outcome is 'unlikely' is not really an adequate response.

These developments have been in my thoughts all day off and on...It's very disturbing that this has occurred and worrisome that Denmark isn't taking more drastic and immediate actions to prevent this mink strain of the virus from spreading out into the world...We may be facing an even deadlier pandemic in the immediate future and one that may even infect dogs and cats easier and deadlier than before...I don't think I'm being too extreme in my concerns here, these are legitimate and reasonable concerns that must be addressed asap...As you said we could be starting all over again...

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The Danish Prime Minister has admitted that the Danish strain from mink could undermine global vaccine efforts herself:

Denmark Finds Covid Strain That Might Hamper Vaccine Effort

Yet there are still flights to many destinations scheduled from Copenhagen airport.

Departures

You can go to Sweden, Poland, Germany, Norway, the Czech Republic, Belgium, Greece, the Netherlands, the US, and many other places.

It could undermine the whole global response to the pandemic, but sod it, those flights have got to continue, I guess. Not to mention all the crossings of the porous European land borders by Danes, and other travellers passing through and out of Denmark.

Why does Denmark even rear 16 million mink every single year? I thought that real fur was a strict no-no in any advanced society. Yet the sainted Scandinavians, whom we are constantly told by liberal media have nearly perfect societies, and whom we are urged to emulate, breed mink by their millions for fur.
 
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nivek

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Factbox: What we know about Denmark's mink coronavirus strain

Denmark has discovered a new, mutated strain of the coronavirus stemming from mink farms in the northern part of the country, which authorities say could evade future COVID-19 vaccines. To prevent human contagion, the government ordered the culling of the entire mink population of 17 million in Denmark, one of the world’s biggest mink pelt producers.

Here’s what’s known about the Danish strain:

WHAT ARE THE MINK STRAINS AND WHY DO THEY MATTER?

Denmark has identified five variants of the virus stemming from mink, but only one - known as Cluster 5 - showed “reduced sensitivity” towards antibodies, according to Denmark’s State Serum Institute (SSI), which deals with infectious diseases.

State epidemiologist Kare Molbak said cluster 5 was not more dangerous than other strains or more infectious.

Clusters 2, 3 and 4 are still being studied for reduced sensitivity, which has already been ruled out in the cluster 1 variant.


HOW FAR HAS THE MUTATED VIRUS SPREAD?

Cluster 5 has been found on five mink farms in Northern Denmark and 12 cases were registered in humans in the same Danish region in August and September, but none has been registered since then, according to SSI.

“We can simply hope that it no longer exists to the same extent,” Molbak told a news conference on Thursday, adding that nothing could be said with certainty.

Cluster 5 makes up around 5% of the strains found in Northern Denmark, but it has not appeared outside the country and it was not immediately clear why it emerged in Denmark.

WHAT’S THE IMPLICATION FOR FUTURE VACCINES?

It’s too early to say what, if any, impact the cluster 5 mutation could have on the efficacy of potential vaccines, Soumya Swaminathan, the World Health Organization’s chief scientist, said on Friday.

But SSI’s initial laboratory studies show the new strain had mutations on its so-called spike protein, which invades and infects healthy cells.

This could pose a problem to future vaccines that are currently in development as most of them focus on disabling the spike protein.


Data have been shared with international counterparts, including the WHO and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC), and the genome sequences of the mutated virus strains have been logged in the Global Initiative on Sharing All Influenza Data (GISAID).

SSI said it would continue to share its findings.

WHY IS THE VIRUS SPREADING AMONG MINK?

Mink appear to be susceptible to the new virus and “good reservoirs” for the virus, the WHO said on Thursday. Outbreaks have occurred on mink farms in Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain and the United States.

As mink are kept in cages in close proximity to each other, the virus can spread easily.

WHY HUMANS?

Mink and humans have a similar biological trait regarding a so-called ACE2-enzyme expressed by cells of the respiratory tract, which makes it easier for mink to be infected with a virus that has adapted to humans, Allan Randrup Thomsen, a virologist at Copenhagen University, told Reuters.

Mike Ryan, the WHO’s top emergencies expert, said “there’s always the potential that this can come back to humans.”

“That is a concern because mammal species like mink are very good hosts and the virus can evolve within those species especially if they are in large numbers packed closely together,” he said.

The novel coronavirus is thought to have first jumped from animals to humans in China, possibly via bats or another animal at a food market in Wuhan.

ARE OTHER LIVESTOCK AT RISK?

The risk is much lower in other farm animals, such as pigs and poultry, because farms have “very strict” biosecurity in place to prevent viruses jumping the species barrier, the WHO’s Ryan said on Friday.

Tests have failed to infect swine, while cattle had been infected to only “a very small degree,” according to the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration.

It said a sample taken from a gull’s foot tested positive for the novel coronavirus, but there was no evidence it had infected birds.


IS THE MUTATION A WORRY?

Mutations in viruses happen all the time. Viruses survive by adapting to new environments and most mutations of the coronavirus are harmless.

Two factors are involved in the mutation, Molbak said. First, the virus has to adapt to its new host. Second, when a virus enters a new population, a lot of antibodies are created in the population, which is commonly known as herd immunity.

The virus responds by creating so-called antibody escape mutants, which try and avoid the antibodies in the community.

WHAT ARE OTHER COUNTRIES AND THE WHO DOING?

The WHO said it is looking at biosecurity around mink farms in countries across the world to prevent further “spillover events”.

Discovery of the mutation should not alter what governments and authorities around the world do to control the pandemic, it said on Thursday.

Britain said on Friday it would require all travellers arriving from the Nordic country to self-isolate on arrival as a result of the outbreak, but it did not consider them to be a risk to the country.

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nivek

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Could Covid mutation spreading from MINK to humans in Denmark derail vaccine race? Scientists say single strain 'is less sensitive to antibodies', sparking calls to shut borders after country locked down entire region amid outbreak

Denmark has forced an entire region into lockdown after discovering a mutated form of coronavirus that has jumped from minks to humans.

Health officials fear the newly-identified strain, which the country's prime minister warned posed a 'serious risk to public health', could scupper a Covid-19 vaccine before one is even found to work.

Denmark has placed seven towns in North Jutland into an emergency lockdown and ordered the culling of all the country's up to 17million minks in an effort to prevent any further spread of the strain.

Amid calls for borders to the nation to be closed, the UK and Germany have both added the country to their travel quarantine lists. And Nicola Sturgeon insisted Scotland was also considering whether any tougher action was needed.

Tests revealed when the virus jumped from humans into minks on fur farms its spike proteins - which allow it to invade cells - mutated to infect the animals more easily.

But when the virus was transmitted back into humans it carried this mutation with it, which scientists in Denmark claim makes Covid-19 antibodies less effective.

Antibodies are disease-fighting proteins made and stored by the immune system to fight off invaders in the future by latching onto their spike proteins. But if they are unable to recognise proteins because they have mutated, it means the body may struggle to attack a virus the second time and lead to a second infection.

Authorities have no proof the strain is any more contagious or deadly, insisting there is 'no reason to worry' and mutations happen all the time and are usually harmless.

Five different strains of mutant mink coronavirus have been spotted in 214 people in Denmark since June. Analysis by Denmark's State Serum Institute revealed only one of these - known as Cluster 5 - is less sensitive to antibodies.

It has been found in 11 people living in North Jutland - which has been placed under lockdown - and one person living in neighbouring Zealand. Of the five farms where it was identified, only three of them were linked to four people with the infection, suggesting the strain is spreading between humans in the community.

The Cluster 5 strain was identified as a risk following tests in labs, Denmark's State Serum Institute (ISS) said in a report.

Tests on Cluster 1 revealed its mutations did not hamper the immune response to an infection.

Laboratory analysis of the other three clusters are ongoing, and could take several weeks to report their results.

The ISS said the results of analysis of Cluster 5 viruses were 'worrying' because they 'could potentially have an impact on the future of Covid-19 vaccinations against infection'.

They added: 'It may also pose a risk of impaired immunity to these following Covid-19 infection.'

After announcing the find, the ISS head Tyra Krause said it was 'better to act quickly' rather than wait for data on whether this strain poses a serious risk.

Officials have not revealed how deadly Covid-19 is to mink, or whether or not this strain poses a bigger threat to the animals.

Professor Ian Jones, a virologist at the University of Reading, told MailOnline he felt there was no 'reason to worry' about the newly-identified strain at present.

'The theoretical risk is that natural mutations in the virus that are selected in the minks produce a virus which, if it transferred back to man, would represent a new strain against which the current vaccine might not work,' he said.

'There are lots of reasons why this is not likely to be an issue.

'Firstly, these cases are restricted to mink farms so very local. They have been identified and the animals culled so the source of the virus is gone and there is an awareness of the need to check elsewhere.

'Second, although back transfer of virus from minks to man has been shown there is no evidence that the “mink virus” is any more of a risk than the original so it is unlikely to spread.

'Third, the vaccine generates a “polyvalent” response to the virus, many different antibodies and only a few of these would be affected by the mutations in the mink virus, most of the antibodies would still bind. In other words it is very unlikely to be an all or nothing effect and the vaccine would probably also protect against the mink virus at least to some degree.'

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This Danish mutation demonstrates that if the Wuhan situation were to emerge again (and this may effectively be Wuhan 2.0, we do not know enough at this stage), then the world would absolutely not take action fast enough to prevent a global pandemic. We are witnessing the same inertia to action that we saw in January and February. The world's press is currently distracted by their obsession with the US presidential election, so don't expect them to hold anyone to task. Much of the public are bored and fed up with the ongoing pandemic. The Danish minister of foreign affairs has accused the British government of acting rashly in denying entry to travellers from Denmark--shades of China eight months ago.

The WHO says that it is too early to jump to conclusions. So much for the precautionary principle. Waiting to gather information is what allows novel viruses to spread out of control.
 
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nivek

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This Danish mutation demonstrates that if the Wuhan situation were to emerge again (and this may effectively be Wuhan 2.0, we do not know enough at this stage), then the world would absolutely not take action fast enough to prevent a global pandemic. We are witnessing the same inertia to action that we saw in January and February. The world's press is currently distracted by their obsession with the US presidential election, so don't expect them to hold anyone to task. Much of the public are bored and fed up with the ongoing pandemic. The Danish minister of foreign affairs has accused the British government of acting rashly in denying entry to travellers from Denmark--shades of China eight months ago.

The WHO says that it is too early to jump to conclusions. So much for the precautionary principle. Waiting to gather information is what allows novel viruses to spread out of control.

This whole scenario is completely unacceptable, the drip drip reaction to this new mink strain dilemma is astonishing given what we're dealing with here, I know I'm just whingeing but good god, do these people have any real cognitive thought processes or are they sleep-walking zombies?...They are supposed to be the experts here, and if this is going to be the so-called 'normal' type of reactions and responses then we may be doomed as a species...

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Why does Denmark have mink farms? The answer can be found on this Wikipedia page:

Mink industry in Denmark - Wikipedia

Mink fur of Denmark is exclusively auctioned through Kopenhagen Fur. Auctions are held five times in a year, with the first held in December after the newly pelted skins are ready, and the last in September. Each auction typically sells some 260 million euro worth of fur and lasts five days. Major export markets for Danish mink are China, Hong Kong, Japan, and Korea. In the December 2012 auction, there were 500 bidders with 85 percent of the pelts purchased by customers from China.

i.e. The Danish mink farming industry exists to serve China.

Fur farming has been illegal in Britain for 20 years.

This WHO press release says that the 12 human cases of the mutant strain in Denmark were identified in September, more than a month prior to their being reported to the world last week. This calls into question how open Denmark has been in handling this matter. Is the WHO press release being imprecise with the wording, and perhaps meaning that a mutant strain was identified retrospectively, and more recently, in samples taken at the end of September? Or do they really mean that the Danes knew about this more than a month ago? When did they report it to the WHO?

SARS-CoV-2 mink-associated variant strain – Denmark
 
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nivek

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So its in 7 countries now?...

 

nivek

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Then there's this ignorance...

 

AD1184

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So its in 7 countries now?...


I wouldn't rely upon Twitter users for information. There is a report that the same mutation arose independently in a mink farm in the Netherlands in the summer. There are reports also of SARS-CoV-2 in mink (not necessarily mutations thereof, and especially not necessarily mutations which have passed back to humans) in six or seven different countries, which is what the poster may have read and misunderstood. Hard to tell.
 

nivek

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Denmark will not now be culling 17 million mink over concerns of Covid mutations in the mink population, over doubts of the legality, proportionality, and the scientific basis of such a move, within the country. The Danish parliament refused to back the cull.

Denmark drops plans for mass mink cull after Covid mutation fears

This is the most absurd news I've heard in a fortnight, a decision such as this could be the end of us all...

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Is there any evidence that the strain spread by minks is not also prevented by the current vaccine contenders?
 
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