Third Eye Sight: Remote Viewing

nivek

As Above So Below
Third Eye Spies: The CIA’S Remote Viewing Program

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One of the more fascinating – and bizarre – episodes in the history of the C.I.A. is the ‘psychic spy’ program that was developed during the 1970s, in which individuals were tasked with ‘remote viewing’ locations using what was once called traveling clairvoyance – ie. attempting to see locations distant to them using psychic abilities.

The government continued research in this area, through various agencies, for at least two decades. Some of that history has been told in books from some of the remote viewers involved in the programs, including Paul Smith and Joe McMoneagle.

And now, a new documentary from one of the researchers involved at the very beginning, physicist Russel Targ, goes deep inside the history of the secret program.

For more than 20 years the CIA used psychic abilities in a top-secret program. You paid for it; you deserve to know about it.

A psychic spy program developed during the Cold War escalated after a Stanford Research Institute experiment publicized classified intel. As a result, the highly successful work of physicist Russell Targ was co-opted by the CIA and hidden for decades due to the demands of ‘national security.’ But when America’s greatest psychic spy dies mysteriously, Targ fights to get their work declassified; even if it means going directly to his former enemies in the Soviet Union to prove the reality of ESP to the world at large.

Revealed for the first time, this is the newly declassified true story of America’s psychic spies. The implications of their success show us all what we are truly capable of – now there can be no more secrets.

Here’s the trailer for the documentary, which will be available from March 1st (sign up for pre-orders at the official website):



The film-makers have also begun posting some related content as an ongoing weekly series on YouTube, titled “Third Eye Spies: Declassified”. In the first episode, embedded below, undercover CIA physicist and SRI remote viewing program manager Ken Kress comes forward for the first time to discuss a debriefing he did with then-CIA director George H. W. Bush on the paranormal research he was working on.



To keep an eye out for more episodes in the series, be sure to subscribe to their channel.

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Standingstones

Celestial
I’ve never believed that the military/intelligence community walked away from using Remote Viewing in their arsenal. One of the original viewers, Joe McMoneagle, has said that RV works about 60% of the time. Those government agencies are too greedy to walk away from intelligence. It’s probably so deeply buried these days in top secret security.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
if it is 60% accurate,
does it help to have 2 or more look at the target ?
or is the error somewhere else ?
I do not know. You would need to read up on RV protocols. It did seem like the there was so many things to be viewed and so few people that multiple people were not used for one viewing subject. Plus a monitor/analyst was needed to decipher the information.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Can parallel worlds be remote viewed?...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I have heard podcast interviews that claim to be able to view past events. Intriguing. I think it was Courtney Brown or one of his disciples. Lost me when he started talking about insectoid aliens using gravity nullifying technology to move the stone blocks for gangs of humans so they could construct the pyramids. I see.

You want to tell me about a Soviet bomber stuck in the triple canopy of some forsaken part of Zaire then I'm listening. As far as that other stuff goes I'll transfer the call to David Icke's extension and hang up.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
I read quite a few books on remote viewing and I don’t recall any scenarios of parallel worlds being specifically remote viewed. It seemed to be distant planets that turned up on the viewing sessions. The Jim Marrs book “Alien Agenda” has a chapter concerning remote viewing of various worlds I found intriguing.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
I have heard podcast interviews that claim to be able to view past events. Intriguing. I think it was Courtney Brown or one of his disciples. Lost me when he started talking about insectoid aliens using gravity nullifying technology to move the stone blocks for gangs of humans so they could construct the pyramids. I see.

You want to tell me about a Soviet bomber stuck in the triple canopy of some forsaken part of Zaire then I'm listening. As far as that other stuff goes I'll transfer the call to David Icke's extension and hang up.
If you do a search on Courtney Brown you will find he is somewhat of a fraud in remote viewing circles. There are better viewers such as Ingo Swann, Joe McMoneagle etc. that I would believe rather than BS artists like Brown and Ed Dames.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
If you do a search on Courtney Brown you will find he is somewhat of a fraud in remote viewing circles. There are better viewers such as Ingo Swann, Joe McMoneagle etc. that I would believe rather than BS artists like Brown and Ed Dames.

Agreed. Like everything else associated with this weird stuff there's always a kernel that's real surrounded by the rest of that crapola. Teaching RV looks like a pure money maker and the fantastic stories are just advertising schmaltz. RV itself seems like it has some meat on the bone but I'm not sure if we'll ever really know how seriously anyone in government took it.

I fiddled around with spoon bending as described in John Alexander's Reality Denied and accomplished nothing.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
As I recall reading Joe McMoneagle state that remote viewing was around 60% successful. This was with trained remote viewers. Some people think that remote viewing should be 100% perfect and that isn’t the case with anything in this world.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
As I recall reading Joe McMoneagle state that remote viewing was around 60% successful. This was with trained remote viewers. Some people think that remote viewing should be 100% perfect and that isn’t the case with anything in this world.
I read somewhere that the US seriously considered using remote viewing back when the hostages were being held in Iran but, like you said, how can they risk lives for something that is only about 60% reliable.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
Agreed. Like everything else associated with this weird stuff there's always a kernel that's real surrounded by the rest of that crapola. Teaching RV looks like a pure money maker and the fantastic stories are just advertising schmaltz. RV itself seems like it has some meat on the bone but I'm not sure if we'll ever really know how seriously anyone in government took it.

I fiddled around with spoon bending as described in John Alexander's Reality Denied and accomplished nothing.
The way I see it, there will always be folks around who exploit things. People have been fraudulently claiming for years to have a cure for cancer but that shouldn't discourage us from having faith that a cure will eventually be found.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
I read somewhere that the US seriously considered using remote viewing back when the hostages were being held in Iran but, like you said, how can they risk lives for something that is only about 60% reliable.
The facts are the Remote Viewing program went on for 20 years. Someone found that worthy of funding. Many of the naysayers found “psychic powers” close to being voodoo and anti-Christian. If you were a baseball player and had a batting average of .500, you would be considered extraordinary. It’s all a matter of viewpoint.
 

spacecase0

earth human
if you look at remote viewing from a technical point of view, it is a signal to noise ratio issue.
people can pull in fantastic signal on occasion
the issue is getting rid of the noise,
noise can be imagination fueled by hope, fantasies, or whatever.
in remote viewing you don't know the target, this is how the noise is suppressed.
with tarot cards you don't know the answers...
they are not that different, but the common element is that the noise is lower.

the best viewing I have ever had I never knew the questions or the answers...
but much of the issue is the questions, you might see just what someone asked, you might end up seeing a fantasy world that the question was asking and not anything on this world.
better to filter the question through someone that is really grounded in this world so you don't end up viewing someone's daydream.

this is all handy info,
but using a trick from the intelligence industry,
this information gives us more answers if we look a bit more,
remote viewing works to see into this world just as well as to see into daydreams (or any other dream world)...
from a logic point of view, this points to this world is not fundamentally different from those other places
and I guess that I have some verification on this,
dream control methods work in this world,
I mean not as well as they work over there, you need much more energy to pull it off here,
but the same things work here even though this place is way harder to change.

anyway, I hope people reading this get what I am trying to say,
all realities are fundamentally the same. but some are more frozen than others.
and knowing where you are at and how reality is built really really gets you better results when trying to see things at a distance.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I read somewhere that the US seriously considered using remote viewing back when the hostages were being held in Iran but, like you said, how can they risk lives for something that is only about 60% reliable.

I have heard it was used without success to attempt to locate some missing people in Afghanistan
 
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Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
if you look at remote viewing from a technical point of view, it is a signal to noise ratio issue.
people can pull in fantastic signal on occasion
the issue is getting rid of the noise,
noise can be imagination fueled by hope, fantasies, or whatever.
in remote viewing you don't know the target, this is how the noise is suppressed.
with tarot cards you don't know the answers...
they are not that different, but the common element is that the noise is lower.

the best viewing I have ever had I never knew the questions or the answers...
but much of the issue is the questions, you might see just what someone asked, you might end up seeing a fantasy world that the question was asking and not anything on this world.
better to filter the question through someone that is really grounded in this world so you don't end up viewing someone's daydream.

this is all handy info,
but using a trick from the intelligence industry,
this information gives us more answers if we look a bit more,
remote viewing works to see into this world just as well as to see into daydreams (or any other dream world)...
from a logic point of view, this points to this world is not fundamentally different from those other places
and I guess that I have some verification on this,
dream control methods work in this world,
I mean not as well as they work over there, you need much more energy to pull it off here,
but the same things work here even though this place is way harder to change.

anyway, I hope people reading this get what I am trying to say,
all realities are fundamentally the same. but some are more frozen than others.
and knowing where you are at and how reality is built really really gets you better results when trying to see things at a distance.
I think I may have an idea where you're coming from with this. I had a friend a long time ago who spent a lot of time studying Carlos Castaneda and the things Don Juan was supposedly trying to teach him. He talked a lot about the idea of different realities and learning to perceive energy directly as it flows through the universe.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Remote view someone's daydreams. Now that's something that never occurred to me.

Wouldn't mention it to Courtney Brown though.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
if you look at remote viewing from a technical point of view, it is a signal to noise ratio issue.
people can pull in fantastic signal on occasion
the issue is getting rid of the noise,
noise can be imagination fueled by hope, fantasies, or whatever.
in remote viewing you don't know the target, this is how the noise is suppressed.
with tarot cards you don't know the answers...
they are not that different, but the common element is that the noise is lower.

the best viewing I have ever had I never knew the questions or the answers...
but much of the issue is the questions, you might see just what someone asked, you might end up seeing a fantasy world that the question was asking and not anything on this world.
better to filter the question through someone that is really grounded in this world so you don't end up viewing someone's daydream.

this is all handy info,
but using a trick from the intelligence industry,
this information gives us more answers if we look a bit more,
remote viewing works to see into this world just as well as to see into daydreams (or any other dream world)...
from a logic point of view, this points to this world is not fundamentally different from those other places
and I guess that I have some verification on this,
dream control methods work in this world,
I mean not as well as they work over there, you need much more energy to pull it off here,
but the same things work here even though this place is way harder to change.

anyway, I hope people reading this get what I am trying to say,
all realities are fundamentally the same. but some are more frozen than others.
and knowing where you are at and how reality is built really really gets you better results when trying to see things at a distance.

You're better at explaining some of this than I am...

I changed the thread title a bit to fit better with the discussion...

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