Ever wished you had studied Astronomy in School?

I know I do. Well, not as a Major, but certainly some studies directed in that direction might have
helped. The reason that I bring this up at this juncture, is that I was studying a symbol message
from ancient Sumeria, and it seems to point to the Centaurus system, and the cross nearby. It's
part of an icon that they used to express the idea of "star gods", in actual fact it's an important
part. It also explains the expression as above, so below very well, but that's for another thread.

And this is important, because if you overlay the Centaurus system, with the Southern Cross to the right, and
rotate the image to the left, it matches up with the star map drawn by Betty Hill. It certainly
matches better than anything I have seen proposed so far. That would indicate that the aliens
did their trade through the area near Alpha Centauri, very close to Earth in distance. Anyway
I now have the quadrant of space, not a pinpointed location but certainly a smaller slice
than we had yesterday, indicating their origins (the sky gods, or one branch of them).

I just thought I would pass this on. If I had those studies earlier, I would have recognized this
right away. Humm. I wonder why our traditional astronomers didn't?

 

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Ditto, and it's getting exponentially more interesting.
May I ask, as I always got a sense of there being something anachronistic about Egyptian culture, in your studies of ancient languages have you ever found such?
 
Ditto, and it's getting exponentially more interesting.
May I ask, as I always got a sense of there being something anachronistic about Egyptian culture, in your studies of ancient languages have you ever found such?

On Quora they ask me archaeological questions, because I know quite a bit about the subject, although I have never formally studied it in an institution of forced learning. But I have a friend who is an archaeologist, and a professor of same, retired. He translated the Tulii papyrus, which speaks of an alien craft that landed close to Tutankhamun and imparted some knowledge with him. I translate several ancient languages and some from the Middle Ages as well, but I really am not that familiar with Egyptian. He is, however, and I trust in his work. He was never able to publish this until after his retirement. I will check my hard drive and see if I can find it and post it here for you all to enjoy. I'm sure I have it, just have to find which machine it is on.

I am also proficient in proto-Hebrew, having done a lot of work in that area, and I can tell you that the
city of Heliopolis is the hub of everything that you would ever wish to know about the mysteries of Egypt.

Extra-Biblical mentions tell us that Jesus himself might have trained there. And I can tell you that the so-called Antichrist is actually a set of twins. There are monuments from Heliopolis that tie quite clearly to the end-times and those twins.

If you use a template that I was able to come up with after several years of work, and employ it,
you can easily translate paleo-Hebrew into Sumerian. That's how I got a great many of the answers
from the Hebrew texts in the Old Testament, that nobody has been able to discover. Such as the wood that the Ark was made of, was Cain truly an evil one, and if so, who are his modern relatives, Cain was Cayanne, by the way, and a woman.

The flood happened, and yes it was worldwide, if you consider what the "world" was defined at in those days (Babylon to England) but it happened 7500 BC and not when the
traditional would tell you.

Markings on the side of Gobekli Tepi monuments are in proto-Sumerian. The tablets
from Tartara are as well. That's a sad story on the Tartara tablet, by the way.

I have translated all of these - I just need the time to get them finished.
I have to work alone - I can't trust the ones who would wish to keep this from us, forever.
So, slowly but surely, this will all come out. First is the Alien Messages - nearly done - perhaps
two weeks. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.
 
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Well, typical BS again. He died, his website is gone, the wayback machine says to try again because
they are having "technical problems" and cannot fulfill my request. Typical wash and rinse of the truth.

But I see some ass-wipe named Herschel stole his work and claims it as his own. I have evidence that
R. Cedric Leonard did it first, and put it online at his atlanticquest.com site, which is gonzo now.

Prof Leonard provides a more comprehensible translation that might help some understand the text’s essence a little better:

In the year 22, of the third month of winter, sixth hour of the day [...] among the scribes of the House of Life it was found that a strange Fiery Disk was coming in the sky. It had no head. The breath of its mouth emitted a foul odor. Its body was one rod in length and one rod in width. It had no voice. It came toward His Majesty's house. Their heart became confused through it, and they fell upon their bellies. They [went] to the king, to report it. His Majesty [ordered that] the scrolls [located] in the House of Life be consulted. His Majesty meditated on all these events which were now going on.

After several days had passed, they became more numerous in the sky than ever. They shined in the sky more than the brightness of the sun, and extended to the limits of the four supports of heaven [...] Powerful was the position of the Fiery Disks.

The army of the King looked on, with His Majesty in their midst. It was after the evening meal when the Disks ascended even higher in the sky to the south. Fish and other volatiles rained down from the sky: a marvel never before known since the foundation of the country. And His Majesty caused incense to be brought to appease the heart of Amun-Re, the god of the Two Lands. And it was [ordered] that the event [be recorded for] His Majesty in the Annals of the House of Life [to be remembered] for ever.

The actual Egyptian signs with their English translations written under them is what I am
searching for, but will post when I have them.


Here's some proof of that from 2012, when I wrote to him, asked his permission to publish his translation, and advice on how to make the Egyptian alphabet syllabary work on
my website program:

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rcgleonard@juno.com
Fri, Nov 23, 2012, 7:12 PM

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Hello Jim,

What an interesting site, and concept! In what little spare time I have, I will try to familiarized myself with your site. I know the trouble you're having with trying to deal with the public using a syllabary--you would have to explain those concepts over and over to each and every individual. I don't blame you for utilizing the 26 letter alphabet.

I've seen enough of your site to be convinced that you are a serious researcher indeed, so I am giving my permission for you to use the image (actually 3 images) of the Interlinear Translation of the Tulli Transcript. You will have to download each of the 3 images separately in order to use them. I didn't have a scanner that would take anything larger than an 8 X 11" sheet--thus the 3 separate images. You are also welcome to include my English "free" translation.


 

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Fascinating, thank you!
PS Although unlikely in this instance, there is an htaccess command Webmasters can use to ask the Wayback machine not to archive.
 
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Here's a sample of some of his work on Egypt in particular. We shared a belief in an ancient race of
man, complete with written language, in the area of Northwest Europe. Modern scholars will do
whatever they can to destroy this idea, of course. It interferes with their "man arose from apes" nonsense.

The equation of the Egyptian Seb with the Greek Cronos is not an arbitrary association. Expert Egyptologists and Assyriologists have known for over a hundred years that Seb (Egyptian), Repa (Coptic), Kaiwan (Akkadian), Chiun (Hebrew), and Cronos (Greek) are all names of the same deity. (Budge, 1960; Tyndale, 1962, et al.) The Roman equivalent, of course, is Saturn.

Just a single star could be used to represent Seb. In this respect, it is interesting that the only place Saturn-Cronos (Seb-Repha) is mentioned in the Bible, the figure of a star plays a prominent part. Acts 7:43 mentions "the star of the god Rephan" in reference to this diety. It is gratifying to see this "star" in the Egyptian glyphs as well. Concerning this reference to the star-god Rephan in the Bible, some scholars believe it to be "a deliberate substitution of Repa, a name of Seb, the Egyptian god of the planet Saturn." (Tyndale, 1962)

On much shakier ground is a claim by Dr. Paul Schliemann, grandson of the famous Heinrich Schliemann, that among other relics relating to Atlantis he discovered an Egyptian papyrus in the Hermitage at Leningrad which said: "Pharoah Sent sent out an expedition to the west in search of Atlantis from whence 3350 years before the Egyptians arrived carrying with themselves all the wisdom of their native land. The expedition returned after five years with the report that they had found neither people nor objects which could give them a clue to the vanished land." (Schliemann, 1912)

This papyrus has never been seen by anyone else, so it remains in limbo. Had Schliemann used the term "Land of the West" instead of "Atlantis" it would be a little more believable. However, I did find that there actually was a pharoah with the unlikely name Sent. Pharoah Sent, or Senta, was the fifth king of the IInd Dynasty who ruled approximately 4000 B.C. (Budge, 1960)

A measure of support for Dr. Schliemann's "discovery" comes in the form of a hieroglyphic text inscribed on the Great Ebony Label found in 1901 by Sir Flinders Petrie in the "tomb" (actually a cenotaph) of King Aha Menes at Abydos (Petrie, 1902). Upon translation it told how this great king and admiral, in his old age, had embarked on a voyage of exploration with his fleet into the "Western Ocean":

"King Menes, the Ruler of Mizraim, the Land of the Two Crowns, the perished dead one in the West of the Horus race . . . The Commander-in-Chief of Ships made the complete course to the end of the Sunset Land. Sailing in ships, he completed the inspection of the Western Land. He built there a holding in Urani Land. At the Lake of the Peak, fate pierced him by a Hornet (or Wasp) . . . This drilled tablet set up of hanging wood is dedicated to his memory." --Trans. by R. Cedric Leonard. (Compare with Petrie, 1923)

Notice that the place-name given in the inscription for this Far Western Land is Urani, which some authorities associate with Erin, the old name for Ireland. But it also calls to mind Uranos, the father of King Cronos, illustrating a possible connection between Ireland and the once great empire of Atlantis. Since the "tomb" at Abydos is empty, it is assumed that Aha Menes was buried in this Western Land.

* * * FINAL THOUGHTS * * *

Finally, I couldn't help but notice the similarity between the Egyptian glyph for "temple" and an actual stone-walled building among the underwater ruins of the Bahamas. Near Andros island (on a shallow underwater shelf) is a rectangular ruin made of stone. Its walls are approximately three feet thick. Some investigators have dismissed it as the remains of a pen for storing conch shells. To them let me say (read my lips), you don't build storage pens for such items out of stone, using perfectly rectangular complex patterns, with walls three feet thick! Compare the following: one from Egypt and the other from the Bahama Islands.

Various researchers, including myself, have noticed the striking similarity between the floor-plan of the ruin near Andros island in the Bahamas and the Mayan "Temple of the Turtles" located at Uxmal, Yucatan. So now we have Egypt, the Bahamas, and Mexico. Interesting.....

By the way, on a personal note. I believe Atlantis was in the Pacific, for several reasons.
One of which is this. Imagine being "outside" the pillars of Hercules. Could the Gibraltar
one be the "fantastic, most important" pillars, when it is some miles across at that point
and there are no real mountains to speak of on either side of it? Yes Gibraltar is a hill,
and on the other side there is one but not close by, and not that grand.
Now, take Panama, prior to the Canal being built.
A pillar of Hercules that opened one up into the whole Pacific would be quite a pillar, right,
and there are mountains on both sides of that much narrower opening of the river that
they used to construct part of the canal with.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I had a friend in college who took an astronomy course because he thought it would be interesting. He hated it. He said it was mainly a lot of complicated math.
 

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I did it at college (astrophysics, not at Uni though), and yeah it's a lot less interesting than you're expecting. It's almost entirely just math and classifications of stellar phenomena. And learning how different types of telescopes work.

Can't name more than the layman's bunch of stars, but I learnt how to calculate the distance to a star using its magnitude so that's... Something. Something that's not been used once in the 10 years since the course.
 
I had a friend in college who took an astronomy course because he thought it would be interesting. He hated it. He said it was mainly a lot of complicated math.

Complicated math is like anything else that has been complicated - it's not very good.
Expressing your ideas, or math, in a smooth form, is a sign of higher intelligence.
If you know what you are talking about, truly, then you can explain it to others
of some intellect, without having to make it that muddled.
 
You know I completely forgot to mention anything about "manna".
You know, the stuff that fell from heaven during the forty years in the
desert?
It translates very clearly as "us, ourselves". Which really means cannibalism,
which was quite popular in those times among the Canaanites.
This white-appearing, sustaining food was not the Hebrews themselves,
however, but came from the surrounding tribes.
What a kidder that Yahweh was.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I vaguely remember an astronomy course that involved going to the Vassar College Observatory and maybe actually looking though the telescope, looking meteorite fragments, lots of cool old musty books and furniture. Long time ago.

Contrast to a few years ago. Needed an elective to complete my degree, took an online astronomy class. Oh God. Physically painful. Benefit was that I can make reasonable estimates of where something is in the sky. Also found Skyview Lite which is damned nifty. But at one point I was paired up with a person whose given name was Cheddar with a ridiculous discussion topic about what we might do as an advanced civilization when our Sun begins to die. No Dyson spheres or Ark vessels for this one, her reply was something like 'well what with all the cell phones these days they should be able to come up with something'

Yeah .... well .... hard to argue with that
 
I vaguely remember an astronomy course that involved going to the Vassar College Observatory and maybe actually looking though the telescope, looking meteorite fragments, lots of cool old musty books and furniture. Long time ago.

Contrast to a few years ago. Needed an elective to complete my degree, took an online astronomy class. Oh God. Physically painful. Benefit was that I can make reasonable estimates of where something is in the sky. Also found Skyview Lite which is damned nifty. But at one point I was paired up with a person whose given name was Cheddar with a ridiculous discussion topic about what we might do as an advanced civilization when our Sun begins to die. No Dyson spheres or Ark vessels for this one, her reply was something like 'well what with all the cell phones these days they should be able to come up with something'

Yeah .... well .... hard to argue with that

You might be surprised at the percentage of the sheeple that lets their cell phone do their thinking.
I gave mine up 15 years ago. Now they are coming to take out my land line today, at my
request. So, internet only.
 
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