Highly Dubious USAF UFO Explanations.

karl 12

Noble
Also, the drum I likt to bang about EM effects on automobiles


Good to see you on the thread mate and did come across some pretty crazy automobile UFO accounts last year - catalogues here and here do contain a number of 'stopped clock' cases and thought the sheer number of incidents described below during just one week was a bit of an eyeopener.







Would be interested in your take on the incident described in this thread as the witness does sound extremely freaked out and reported weeping blisters, sunburn and nausea afterwards.

Cheers.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Hi PF, hope you are well my friend. :Thumbsup:… As to the Coyne Helicopter [Mansfield Incident] I can't recall that thread in which someone [creepygreenlight?] made any kind of compelling case [or credible as you say] for anything other than the ETH in that case... let alone 'a refuelling exercise' that for some prosaic reason managed to have the effect of looking like a and then and then and then being able to also fool the several witnesses on the ground into thinking that they had seen the very same thing as the helicopter crew had seen. … Clever refuelling craft eh?... well, I suppose the powerful red and green beams of light that were seen by everyone [even a lady in bed a couple of miles away reported being disturbed by them streaming through her bedroom windows] were in fact powerful hallucinatory beams being tested by the mad boffins , … acceptable if you are of a bent that there is always a 'prosaic explanation to these things' … even if a little strange seeming?! … but not for me mate, … have another look at what you are willing to consider for an answer in need to reject the most obvious explanation … The 1973 Mansfield Coyne Helicopter UFO Incident - UFO Insight
… btw PF, are you saying that Quantanilla's "a refuelling operation" or the "planet Venus" is reasonable, and not A Highly Dubious Explanation in the Wayne City Car Chase case that I presented?... :Unsure:

… as to the EM effects on automobiles … I get what you are saying, but it's really a factor of UFO encounters that has been consistently reported on throughout ufological studies and not just a side note in 'some old cases'. There are dedicated collators and field researchers that have dedicated their careers to researching just this aspect of the genre. … here are a couple of them doing just that in a interesting 2009 ce2-case, they are Chuck Modlin, the Chief Technical Advisor, accompanied by Vicki LeBlanc. … Modlin has a lifetime of professional experience working with, among many other things, cutting edge radar, lasers, missiles, and telemetry systems. [so no technophobe eh!] and Richard Lang, who runs the STAR team [ Rapid Response UFO Investigation Unit that was funded by a special program within MUFON known as the SIP Project. funded by Robert Bigelow] … UFO in NY buzzes car causing electromagnetic effects - Openminds.tv
… Do you really think that these guys "wouldn't think to look"? … I think that they might just be efficient enough at their chosen vocations to "have thought" … could be wrong as always, but surely the guys that are paid to be 'up-to-date and on top of these things' .... are. :Thumbsup:

Cheers Buddy.

Sorry, not being clear. Actually that was really a comment about large aircraft, refueling operations. etc looking mighty weird at times and I have no doubt they have been the source of many UFO reports. A couple of years ago an article suggested the Coyne helicopter incident was a refueling operation and a former member here expounded on it - he had some first hand knowledge and made a reasonable case that didn't require any great stretch of the imagination. Also didn't hurt that I have a relative who was a crew chief on a KC-135 for years and when I read about that I thought ..... "yup, I can see dumbass doing something like that" also without any stretch of the imagination.

I also think that explanation might've been bandied around for Exeter, NH. So on its base Quintanilla's explanation is only implausible depending on context.

I had a close range encounter with a strange looking object at low level for several minutes along with two other witnesses. Lighting conditions and terrain made for an interesting ride - we were in a van. No idea what we were looking at after several minutes of observation. Sort of cigar shaped, strangely luminous. Sounds good, eh?

Later it was found to be an advertising blimp.
 

1963

Noble
Force Base, New York, 1 April 1966 – 1 December 1967 551st Airborne Early Warning and Control Wing Otis Air Force Base, Massachusetts, and in July and August various USAF training operatives reported witnessing UFO's on four occasions [well, there were only four official reports anyway] and here JG of Black-Vault has gotten possession of the official USAF investigative report [via foia] in which the pronouncement was that "two were heavenly bodies" [venus no doubt] and one was "a blimp"... but the fourth one had the surprisingly honest description of being "not matched with any known object"! [what... not swamp gas?... surprising because 1966 was a good year for swamp gas. lol]
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Cheers.
 

1963

Noble
Yep, and here is the only known picture of that "swamp gas" Shadow!
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... it's a mighty weird looking picture [or at least the anomalous object is mighty weird looking] ... but it is said to have been the object that Civil Defence director William E. Van Horn responded and confirmed that the bright, glowing object was indeed bouncing across a nearby hollow and then became airborne. ... Weird? ... Yes!... Swamp Gas? ... Not in my opinion!

Cheers Buddy.
 
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