UFO FBT Research.

Toroid

Founding Member
Truth be told..Looks like they made a pit stop in the middle of nowhere to relieve themselves. These things happen through out the galaxy..and makes them very much like us..which on the other hand we really wouldn't want them to be ...just sayin :)
Welcome to AE. :)
 

SysConfig

Adept
Thank you.!
I was referred here by a member who I'll just call the Admiral . I'm a member at UCB old and current, same handle. I'm a retired Librarian, Lots of excellent material was lost as many sites went as someone well put it..belly up. That's a tragic shame , no less than the internet being purged of blogs, books, and archives, that even wayback can't help. I doubt it's because of less interest or cultural changes..something else is at work , not good. I look at Ufology the same way some archeolgists discover some new species in an old box, they hadn't thought to look at. That works if things are preserved..not 404 and erased as seems the case everywhere else. There is a lot out there just waiting to be rediscovered.

Anywho, I'm enjoying what I'm reading, and hope I can return the favor with the same positive and enlightening posts.

Sys
 

August

Metanoia
Thank you.!
I was referred here by a member who I'll just call the Admiral . I'm a member at UCB old and current, same handle. I'm a retired Librarian, Lots of excellent material was lost as many sites went as someone well put it..belly up. That's a tragic shame , no less than the internet being purged of blogs, books, and archives, that even wayback can't help. I doubt it's because of less interest or cultural changes..something else is at work , not good. I look at Ufology the same way some archeolgists discover some new species in an old box, they hadn't thought to look at. That works if things are preserved..not 404 and erased as seems the case everywhere else. There is a lot out there just waiting to be rediscovered.

Anywho, I'm enjoying what I'm reading, and hope I can return the favor with the same positive and enlightening posts.

Sys

Thanks and welcome to AE. :)
 
Thank you.!
I was referred here by a member who I'll just call the Admiral . I'm a member at UCB old and current, same handle. I'm a retired Librarian, Lots of excellent material was lost as many sites went as someone well put it..belly up. That's a tragic shame , no less than the internet being purged of blogs, books, and archives, that even wayback can't help. I doubt it's because of less interest or cultural changes..something else is at work , not good. I look at Ufology the same way some archeolgists discover some new species in an old box, they hadn't thought to look at. That works if things are preserved..not 404 and erased as seems the case everywhere else. There is a lot out there just waiting to be rediscovered.

Anywho, I'm enjoying what I'm reading, and hope I can return the favor with the same positive and enlightening posts.

Sys
Well if it ain't the Padre what done fetched me away from that nasty infection way back when. Good to see ya! This here's a good place, with good people and not too many kooks. That Nivek feller, he's the owner and he's a good 'un. Thar's gettin' to be a mighty fine collection of interestin' stuff here, piled up by some folks like yerself, what can dig up the dangdest things and post 'em here. /festus

Welcome aboard, Matey! I mostly lurk here, especially since I gave up trying to comment on every post that mentions Bob Lazar or that kind of flapdoodle. I'm only half paying attention to the field these days anyway, so I don't have much to add. Been trying to swear off the topics entirely, but can't seem to git 'er done.
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Truth be told..Looks like they made a pit stop in the middle of nowhere to relieve themselves. These things happen through out the galaxy..and makes them very much like us..which on the other hand we really wouldn't want them to be ...just sayin :)
Welcome to AE.

No, no pit stop as we would.
Most are doing scientific reconnaissance and other data logging. IMHO
 

karl 12

Noble
As I say Karl, he does have a pretty decent looking pedigree and doesn't come across badly at all in person.... but i'm afraid that I just don't believe him...

Hola my friend some very fair points raised there and your insight really is appreciated - had initially looked into Terry's claims regarding the 1977 Arkansas sighting and yes he does come across quite well.

Looked more into it and didn't realise he kept it a secret for 40 years - he also claims a flying saucer hovered directly over his head in 1966 and back in 1963 there were 'masked-faced monkeymen' in his bedroom.

There's also the phone health app saga:


Health app in Terry's Phone Recording Elevation (Flights of Stairs) It showed one line. It showed a horizontal line going straight up between 5.23 and 5.24 am. According to the phone, I climbed six flights of stairs in less than one minute. I took it to the T-Mobile phone store. I asked the guy ‘What does this mean?" He was told: "The mobile says you were 60 feet above the house at 5.24am" Terry told interviewer Dean: "My house has no stairs"


Don't know if he's making it all up but considering the points raised in your post (and Linda Moulton Howe's involvement) it certainly is quite a lot to swallow.

Cheers.
 

karl 12

Noble
That's a tragic shame , no less than the internet being purged of blogs, books, and archives, that even wayback can't help. I doubt it's because of less interest or cultural changes..
something else is at work , not good.


Welcome SysConfig and couldn't agree more with you there - there definitely seems to have been a digital purge over the last few years and whatever the reason it isn't good.

More below on the FBT UFO/USO flap across the Yorkshire Wolds in 2009:


The case of the Wilsthorpe Incident is being investigated after a number of witnesses to the bizarre events along a 25-mile stretch of the East Yorkshire and North Yorkshire coast were discovered.

Witnesses reported seeing strange lights, and odd-shaped craft in an area from Brandesburton in East Yorkshire to Scarborough, North Yorkshire, between May and September 2009.

In some cases UFOs were seen entering the sea, and cars ground to a halt as one appeared, it is claimed.

Two Chinook helicopters full of RAF personnel landed at the beach by the remote hamlet of Wilsthorpe, East Yorkshire, on Tuesday, September 15 2009, at the height of the sightings, paranormal researcher Paul Sinclair has revealed.

It was the day after a bizarre late-night sighting of between 30 and 40 UFOs in the same area by an elderly couple whose home overlooked the beach, he said.

The multiple UFOs sighting followed a spate of other strange UFO sightings along the area of coastline, Mr Sinclair told the Outer Limits Magazine 70 Years of the Modern UFO Era Conference in Hull.

The military action and UFOs were witnessed by the couple, two bait diggers, and a boat worker, a seven-year investigation by Mr Sinclair has discovered.

local newspaper report written more than a week later on September 24 said up to 50 people had seen the military arrival.

The case began in 2009 as Mr Sinclair recorded several UFO sightings in the area on his former website ILF-UFO...

The couple lived in one of 30 flats that overlook the sea at Wilsthorpe.

Mr Sinclair told the conference that the woman described seeing on September 14 2009 15-feet long and eight-feet wide "spaceships over the sea".

He said: "She said there was a huge circle of boomerang-shaped craft.

"She said there were loads - 30 to 40 and the sea below was bubbling, banging and crashing."

The woman said that after about half an hour, the "craft" flew off.

The next day the couple said they saw the military swarming all over the beach.

Mr Sinclair also spoke with a man who runs a bait shop at Bridlington Harbour, who told him his bait diggers had seen "triangle" craft enter the sea in 2009 over the same period.

He said two of his bait diggers had been on Wilsthorpe Beach the day the couple saw the military operation.

They told of seeing "triangles entering the sea" and later "being surrounded by soldiers."


Separately a man working on a boat at Blythe Park boat compound also confirmed the military presence, he said.

Mr Sinclair, who continues to investigate the case, has collated a record of other UFO sightings in the area from at least May 2009 that were either reported in local newspapers or directly to his website.

These include a pink flying saucer and three star-like objects over Flamborough Head, east Yorkshire, on May 10 2009, a huge UFO over Driffield six days later, and a "spherical-shaped craft" seen by nine people at River Head three days after that.

He revealed sightings that continued throughout June and July, including spheres of light over the sea, plus triangle, circular, and egg shaped craft.

Witnesses included trawler men and a retired police officer.

He also had reports of cars stopping working after a UFO sighting, including a black triangular object.

The vehicles worked fine again after the UFO flew out to sea.


These included an off-duty police man driving back from Barmston, East Yorkshire, whose car lights dimmed after a large tube-shaped UFO appeared..

link

Cheers.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
NIDS Deputy Administrator Dr Colm Kelleher discusses flying black triangles.



Sure doesn't seem like these vessels are human made, some of them moving so fast leaving fighter jets in the dust whilst others are flying so silently...Unless we are using alien tech of some kind I tend to doubt our technology alone has advanced that far yet...

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karl 12

Noble
Sure doesn't seem like these vessels are human made, some of them moving so fast leaving fighter jets in the dust whilst others are flying so silently..
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Rewatched that David Marler presentation the other day and god knows what's going on mate.

Following on from the vid featuring Rosita's sighting in Puerto Rico, 1971 also looks like other areas around the island like the Mona Channel, the Puerto Rico Trench, Lake Cartagena and the El Yunque rainforest have a lot of strange 'activity'.

According to Tim Good 'the weight of testimony emerging from Puerto Rico is breathtaking' and 'UFOs and USOs have frequently been observed by American military personnel'.




Once did a thread about the place but the majority of the links are now dead - here's one about a trianglular shaped UFO over a U.S. Navy airstrip.


Triangle-shaped’ UFOs Suspended Over US Navy Airstrip,
UFOs Come out from the Sea -Puerto Rico:

We interviewed the Director of the Vieques Municipal Police, Officer Wilfredo Feliciano, who informed us of a series of important observations he had experienced.

His first sighting took place during the summer of 1997, at around 9 P.M. Feliciano was driving his car on Route 997, which runs from the Esperanza sector to Isabel II. At the intersection of a place known as Marta’s Alley, he became aware of an intense yellow light hanging motionless in the sky some distance away. Intrigued, he parked the car at the left edge of the road to observe the light more carefully.

“It was a real big triangular object,” he stated, “completely engulfed in a bright yellow light ... It seemed to be at an altitude of about 500 feet above the ground, over property belonging to Camp García. I calculated the altitude based on the height of some trees in the area. What intrigued me the most was that the thing was suspended right over the area where the US Navy has an airstrip or runway for their planes to land and take off ... And that it was an unidentified flying object.

“There were no military exercises at the time, so what was that object, that triangle of light, doing there over the runway? Thinking that I was observing something I shouldn’t be seeing, I left the site at once. But from that moment on, I realized something very strange is taking place on the land controlled by the US Navy.


“Some days later, my wife told me that she saw a similar object, also at night, suspended over the exact same place where I had seen the object — over Camp García’s runway. The next weekend, as we were driving to her mother’s home, we saw another triangle. This time our sons were with us in the car; they saw it too.”

Feliciano and his family observed the object from a distance of two miles, and even from that distance, they described its size to be three to four feet in length, which indicates the object was very large.

He also told us that, as part of his duties with the municipal police, he had to patrol the land west of Vieques, at the time still under US Navy control. On many occasions he witnessed brightly lit UFOs emerging from the sea in the Punta Arenas area, flying away at great speed into the night sky. Often the objects would make several fast turns before leaving the area.

“This has happened on many occasions, sometimes between 9 and 11 PM, and sometimes around 2 or 3 in the morning.They come out from the sea at a spot right in the middle of Punta Arenas and Roosevelt Roads Naval Station in Ceiba.”


This one's not triangular but very interesting anyway. :)


Huge UFO Absorbs Water from the Ocean-Puerto Rico:

During our recent investigation of Vieques, resident Mr. Angel Encarnación reported the following:

"One night fishing out at sea, to the south of the shooting range, in the east of Vieques, we saw a really big and shining light in the distance. Getting closer we saw that it was suspended in the air.It was ... a huge object, ... a round and huge flying saucer with lots of lights turning on and off intermittently all around the object. There were yellow, green and red lights.

"On the bottom, right in the middle of the saucer, there was only one really big green light, focused at the ocean's surface. It wasn't more than 100 feet above the ocean. But that thing wasn't from this world. What shocked us the most was seeing that the object was absorbing seawater from the ocean. You could actually see the water rising and entering the object through the area where the green light was coming from. It was a really big column of water going up. You could not see any fish or anything else ... just the water going up ... and all of that without a single sound. Nothing.


"As we got closer to the saucer,” continued Encarnación, “it stayed still for a while and then it immediately left, flew away very fast in the direction of El Yunque [a forested area in eastern Puerto Rico where there has been a lot of UFO alien activity] or Ceiba [where the US Roosevelt Roads Naval Station is located], on land, in the island of Puerto Rico. It was really fast. It was gone in seconds ... Incredible.

“We looked at each other and said,'We have seen something extraordinary that has never been seen before. Let\'s not say anything on land, because they won't believe us.' I only told my family about what happened."

On another occasion while they were fishing at night, the witness and his partners saw a shining green light rising from the bottom of the ocean. They thought it could be a US Navy submarine surfacing in the area, but just when the submarine’s light should have surfaced, the green light disappeared and everything was dark again. They immediately heard the sound of water falling to the ocean near them. Whatever it was that emerged, it rose and took to the skies in the middle of the darkness of night and disappeared in total silence, and a subtle humid sprinkling fell over the group of fishermen. After the incident Encarnación and the others left the scene as soon as possible, returning to Vieques.

"Besides that,” said Encarnación, “we have seen shining objects coming out from the lagoons, after which they leave at high speed, and get lost in the sky. They are shining lights, orbs or balls of light of a blue-white color. Of course, they could be something from the Navy ... since they have done lots of things of which we don't know yet.

“But what we saw in the ocean,” he continued explaining, “was similar to what some people call a flying saucer. I have no doubts about it. And I don't think it is from the Navy, because nobody on Earth can manufacture, I believe, something like that, an artifact like the one we saw, because that object disappeared in the sky in seconds, in the direction of El Yunque.”

Cheers.
 

karl 12

Noble



Following on from the vid above Major General Wilfred De Brouwer gives a 2014 interview on Belgium's 1989/1990 FBT sightings:






Statements:


1989-1990: UFO SIGHTING WAVE IN BELGIUM.


"Scientifically we eliminate the simple hypotheses: It's not a plane. It's not a helicopter. It's not a natural phenomenon because the descriptions don't match. Therefore this global phenomenon resists any other explanation. The only remaining hypothesis is the hypothesis of extraterrestrial origin."

L. Clerebaut, Secretary General, SOBEPS - Organisation which assisted the Belgium Goverment in the study of UFO sightings




"The aircraft had brief radar contacts on several occasions, [but the pilots]... at no time established visual contact with the UFOs... each time the pilots were able to secure a lock on one of the targets for a few seconds, there resulted a drastic change in the behavior of the detected targets... [During the first lock-on at 0:13 hrs.] their speed changed in a minimum of time from 150 to 970 knots [170 to 1,100 mph and 275 to 1,800 km./hr.] and from 9,000 to 5,000 feet [2,700 m. to 1,500 m.], returning then to 11,000 feet [3,300 m.] in order to change again to close to ground level."

Major P. Lambrechts of the Belgian Air Force General Staff




"What impressed me the most were the witnesses, some of whom I know personally and convinced me that, in fact, something was going on. These were credible people and they told clearly what they saw.

"We always look for possibilities which can cause errors in the radar systems. We can not exclude that there was electromagnetic interference, but of course we can not exclude the possibility that there were objects in the air. On at least one occasion there was a correlation between the radar contacts of one ground radar and one F-16 fighter. This weakens the theory that all radar contacts were caused by electromagnetic interference. If we add all the possibilities, the question is still open, so there is no final answer."

Chief of Operations of the Royal Belgian Air Force, Colonel Wilfred De Brouwer (now Major General and Deputy Chief of the Belgian Air Force)




"Unfortunately, no explanation has been found to date. The nature and origin of the phenomenon remain unknown. One theory can, however, be definitely dismissed since the Belgian Armed Forces have been positively assured by American authorities that there has never been any sort of American aerial test flight."

Belgium Minister of Defense - Leo Delcroix
 

1963

Noble
Just found this one interesting enough to make me wonder [yet again] just how can any self-respecting person that considers themselves 'reasonably intelligent' still try and deny that "there's anything un-prosaic out there", but then still claim that they are not being intellectually dishonest?



Cheers.
 

karl 12

Noble
Just found this one interesting enough to make me wonder [yet again] just how can any self-respecting person that considers themselves 'reasonably intelligent' still try and deny that "there's anything un-prosaic out there", but then still claim that they are not being intellectually dishonest?



Cheers.



Pretty fascinating one from the Gribble archives there amigo, many thanks for posting it.



]Recording number 242

242: 12.06.1977 Between Tokyo and Hawaii at 60,000 Feet

Naval Intelligence pilot flying reconnaissance for CIA, encounters a large triangular craft that paces his F4-11 Phantom for approximately a half-hour. Object was dark in color with no protrusions, lights or outward propulsion system and its surface appearance like foam rubber. Target pasted solidly on plane's radar. Plane was in excess of Mach 2.2 and the object stayed within 50 feet off the left wing of the aircraft.

Re: Case 237 above for comparison of surface feature. 18:30

Research Recordings

Transcript
 

karl 12

Noble
Just found this one interesting enough to make me wonder [yet again] just how can any self-respecting person that considers themselves 'reasonably intelligent' still try and deny that "there's anything un-prosaic out there", but then still claim that they are not being intellectually dishonest?



Cheers.
 

karl 12

Noble
Also thought there was some pretty fascinating close range UFO eyewitness details (and speculation) in this vid by Technical Design Draughtsman Colin Saunders.



Cheers!
 

karl 12

Noble
I watched that episode when it was first aired and it scared the shit out of me. I was like 12 at the time.
Yes I remember watching it as well mate - extremely freaky (and consistent) series of reports - very low level as well!

Did you catch the David Marler presentation on the first post?

Apparently lots of very similar reports in the same area two decades before.

Cheers.
 
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