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AlienView

AlienView

Noble
I'm not an anti-vaccine nut and have had both doses of Phizer shots with only moderate side effects after shot 2 - But this is interesting:

Resolving "Long-Haul COVID" and Vaccine Toxicity: Neutralizing the Spike Protein
Commentary by Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD

"(OMNS June 21, 2021) Although the mainstream media outlets might have you believe otherwise, the vaccines that continue to be administered for the COVID pandemic are emerging as very substantial sources of morbidity and mortality themselves. While the degree to which these negative outcomes of the COVID vaccines can be debated, there is no question that enough disease and death have already occurred to warrant cessation of the administration of these vaccines until additional, completely scientifically-based research can examine the balance between its now clear-cut side effects versus its potential (and still not yet clearly proven) ability to prevent new COVID infections........."

See whole article here:
Resolving "Long-Haul COVID" and Vaccine Toxicity: Neutralizing the Spike Protein

What do you think? Know anyone who has had serious side effects from being vaccinated?
 
Sheltie

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I personally know at least 3 people who have had covid and are still struggling with some of the effects like brain fog. I don't know a single person who experienced major side effects from the vaccines. I put more stock in anecdotal observations such as this than I do in the experts and their comments.
 
nivek

nivek

As Above So Below
Almost 4,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts have tested positive for COVID-19

Nearly 4,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts have tested positive for COVID-19, according to recent data from the state Department of Public Health.

The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.

As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.

"We’re learning that many of the breakthrough infections are asymptomatic or they’re very mild and brief in duration," said Boston University infectious diseases specialist Davidson Hamer, according to the Boston Herald. "The viral load is not very high."

"Breakthroughs are expected, and we need to better understand who’s at risk and whether people who have a breakthrough can transmit the virus to others," he continued. "In some cases, they’ll be shedding such low levels of the virus and won’t be transmitting to others."

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nivek

nivek

As Above So Below
They should stop vaccinating the young in my opinion, until more testing and confirmation of severity is gained...

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FDA adding warning to Pfizer and Moderna vaccines

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The CDC tracked more than 1,200 cases of myocarditis, which is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis, which is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart. More than 800 of the cases occurred after the second dose, and 65% were linked to the Pfizer vaccine. The largest share of the cases occurred in men under the age of 24, according to the report.

Sixteen-year-old Noah Hiers was rushed to the hospital just two days after receiving his second dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

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nivek

nivek

As Above So Below
Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%.

And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.

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JahaRa

JahaRa

Noble
nivek said:
Jason Maurer: 45-year-old Ohio bartender tells world "shut up and get your vaccine," dead five weeks after second Moderna mRNA shot - The COVID Blog

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So, it never said what caused his death. The way that angry article was written he could have been hit by a car and they would blamed it on the vaccine. Jeez!

That is not to say that I trust the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines, I don't, but that vitrolic, fear mongering article is not worth passing around.
 
nivek

nivek

As Above So Below
Covid UK - Pupils are using FRUIT JUICE to get false positive Covid test results

Pupils have been using fruit juice to get false positive Covid-19 test results as schools warn parents to be 'vigilant'.

When droplets of orange juice or fizzy drinks like coca-cola are placed on a lateral flow test it can produce a positive result because the acidity of the drink destroys the antibody proteins in the test. And although it does not work every time, viral videos on Tik Tok and Instagram have been encouraging children across the UK to try the trick to get out of going to school.

One video seen by MailOnline was captioned 'fed up of going to school? Want to get a positive covid test? Use orange juice'. Gateacre School in Belle Vale, Liverpool, sent an email to parents yesterday warning them to watch over their children as they take lateral flow Covid tests.

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August

August

Metanoia
Why most people who now die with Covid have been vaccinated

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dr wu

dr wu

Noble
Viruses mutate....not a surprise , and vaccines are not 100% effective.....

btw...is there a way to cancel or clear a post you don't wish to make..?
 
The shadow

The shadow

The shadow knows!
dr wu said:
Viruses mutate....not a surprise , and vaccines are not 100% effective.....

btw...is there a way to cancel or clear a post you don't wish to make..?
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Nivek August soul drifter or my self can do it. Just send one of us a PM.
 
nivek

nivek

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Vaccinated people are dying from the Delta variant, but in small numbers and almost all are over 50, UK data shows

Of those who were fully vaccinated who caught the Delta variant, 50 died, data from Public Health England that was published on Friday indicated. The figure represents almost half of the total 117 deaths associated with the variant in the UK, where Delta now represents most cases.

But experts said this does not undermine what we know about the efficacy of the vaccines, given that the deaths come from age groups at higher risk and represent a tiny proportion of the 92,029 Delta cases analyzed.

Eight people under the age of 50 died after getting the Delta variant, the data showed. None was fully vaccinated, while two had received one dose of the vaccine.

As of June 21, 92,029 cases of Delta have been confirmed by Public Health England, of which 117 ended in death. Of those cases, 109 were in those over the age of 50. UK officials did not give a more detailed age breakdown, but coronavirus deaths disproportionately affect the very elderly.

One hundred and seventeen deaths from 92,029 cases is a death rate of about 0.13%.

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nivek

nivek

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dr wu said:
I meant right when you are posting it...as if you made a mistake. There is no delete button. Why not...all the other forums have one...?
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Its my preference, I've seen misuse of a delete button in the past which has taken subsequent posts out of context in a discussion, not here but on other forums...Not saying it would happen in the way you describe but we don't have that option so it's not a problem...Anyway you do have 15 minutes by default to make any corrections or changes to a post and if you wish a little more editing time than that let me know...

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AD1184

AD1184

Celestial
nivek said:
Vaccinated people are dying from the Delta variant, but in small numbers and almost all are over 50, UK data shows
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One hundred and seventeen deaths from 92,029 cases is a death rate of about 0.13%.
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I would query as to whether those 92,029 cases under consideration had yet run their course when they calculated this case fatality rate. Is it 117 deaths out of 92,029 cases at the time of infection, or at the time of death? It has to be out of the number of cases at the time of infection to be correct.
 
nivek

nivek

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AD1184 said:
It has to be out of the number of cases at the time of infection to be correct.
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By the wording of this sentence below I was making the assumption that its by time of infection and most if not all the others recovered...If 117 ended in death then their infection was likely were more severe and they suffered longer with the infection along with attempts to save their lives verses a milder infection that someone vaccinated could recover more quickly...I could be wrong on that assumption though...

As of June 21, 92,029 cases of Delta have been confirmed by Public Health England, of which 117 ended in death.

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AD1184

AD1184

Celestial
nivek said:
By the wording of this sentence below I was making the assumption that its by time of infection and most if not all the others recovered...If 117 ended in death then their infection was likely were more severe and they suffered longer with the infection along with attempts to save their lives verses a milder infection that someone vaccinated could recover more quickly...I could be wrong on that assumption though...

As of June 21, 92,029 cases of Delta have been confirmed by Public Health England, of which 117 ended in death.

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I have read the relevant section of the report directly. It actually mentions 92,056 total cases. That is the total number of cases detected up until 21 June. It mentions in the summary table (pg 8) a CFR of 0.1% by dividing 117 by 92,056, but in another column that in 11,250 Delta cases with a 28-day follow up, the CFR rose to 0.3%. It also says that the Eta variant with 28-day follow up has a CFR in the range 1.4-4.8% with 95% confidence.
 
nivek

nivek

As Above So Below
AD1184 said:
I have read the relevant section of the report directly. It actually mentions 92,056 total cases. That is the total number of cases detected up until 21 June. It mentions in the summary table (pg 8) a CFR of 0.1% by dividing 117 by 92,056, but in another column that in 11,250 Delta cases with a 28-day follow up, the CFR rose to 0.3%. It also says that the Eta variant with 28-day follow up has a CFR in the range 1.4-4.8% with 95% confidence.
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Does it says anything about if those 92,056 cases are closed cases or if some are still active and may result in more deaths?...

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