Luis Elizondo Interview

pigfarmer

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Dejan Corovic said:
One thing is obvious, despite all the ridicule, public interest into subject is strong enough that there is a need for financially and legally independent UFO research institution.

Now, all the weakly funded and legally unprotected institutions so far, like MUFON etc. had failed. Because luck of funding MUFON turned itself into entertainment venue, which is opposite to it's original role.

So something stronger is needed.
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I think MUFON died of its own crapulence. You’d think Bigelow would’ve done better with the data he supposedly filched from their database had he handed it to Jacques Vallee. He’s been saying for some time he could create a useful standardized database given the funding, also that he has practical experience doing so. He certainly has the interest and name recognition. Maybe Bob’s more careful spending his own money than taxpayers
 
Standingstones

Standingstones

Celestial
pigfarmer said:
There is another way to look at this and it won't necessarily be popular but might explain a lot.

We are looking at the thing the magician wants us to look at - they had to do zero heavy lifting to convince anyone of literally anything as it relates to UFOs. What we are NOT supposed to look at is a more interesting questions. Is all we've heard the result of a Harry Reid - Robert Bigelow indulgence of interest at the taxpayer's expense ? Could be. They would be obligated to show something for their effort and not mention the money spent on .... what exactly? Was an audit pending or something ? It all sounds like a new version of the look-forty-years-ahead project that I can't remember the name of right now - a version that made some $$ for Hal Puthoff and Eric Davis. Only thing we hear on that front is Eric Davis talking nonsense about Admiral Wilson. We're not talking about bismuth or parts or anything anymore.

Deflection.

What we've seen and heard from DoD is very reluctant compliance to an issue that reached the boiling point of popular opinion and yet DoD doesn't seem to want to say much about Lue & Co. So popular that we now have a UAP Task Force and the director of NASA talking about it.

Anyone know what the impetus was for the NYT, Leslie Kean & (the other two writers I can't remember) to write that story when they did?
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The other reporters were Ralph Blumenthal, a former reporter for the New York Times. Helene Cooper is a New York Times reporter who covers the Pentagon. What is rather strange was that the NYT has always ridiculed UFO stories in the past. I wonder what made them change their tune.
 
Standingstones

Standingstones

Celestial
pigfarmer said:
I think MUFON died of its own crapulence. You’d think Bigelow would’ve done better with the data he supposedly filched from their database had he handed it to Jacques Vallee. He’s been saying for some time he could create a useful standardized database given the funding, also that he has practical experience doing so. He certainly has the interest and name recognition. Maybe Bob’s more careful spending his own money than taxpayers
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It always amazes me when a billionaire like Bigelow says he needs government funding. Perhaps that is the way he stays a billionaire, he gets someone else to foot the bill.
 
pigfarmer

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Standingstones said:
The other reporters were Ralph Blumenthal, a former reporter for the New York Times. Helene Cooper is a New York Times reporter who covers the Pentagon. What is rather strange was that the NYT has always ridiculed UFO stories in the past. I wonder what made them change their tune.
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I'd love to have been a fly on the wall and to know what the genesis of this was. In short, were they approached in some way ? What happened that made the m decide to collaborate on this story? I'm wondering if it was some sort of insider tip or leak, maybe a deliberate one.
 
pigfarmer

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tall, thin, irritable
In non UFO related instances there were leaks of partial truths deliberately designed to mislead. Reporters were simply useful tools for doing so, for getting out a particular message.

There are factions within the military and within the intelligence community. All this kerfluffle sounds like a pissing match between some of them. Whether ET is actually involved or not has yet to be determined.
 
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nivek

nivek

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Todd Feinman

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
A good one. Yes and Yesser.
These objects aren't ours. They're not because they have been around for so long and we are still just trying to develop hypersonic missiles. We also wouldn't buzz our own nuclear sites for decades with them --while we keep investing in much lower tech military items while creating agencies and secret programs to study UFOs and weaponize the tech. We wouldn't fly them in civilian airspace without warning or hover over airports... There is no way they are from China or Russia --it would have been nuclear war the way they are and have been used. Why would you surround a warship with NINE of them --risking an incident or worse and having to explain things on the world stage = ridiculous.
Chinese aircraft carrier programme - Wikipedia
But, China can build Tic Tacs??! Hehehe... :)
 
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