Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

michael59

Celestial
A large group of scientists got together and requested the documentation that the FDA used to ascertain approval of the vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna. The turn around time is suppose to be 20 days to get the information under the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) to the scientists but the FDA is saying that it will only release 500 redacted pages a month until the year 2076.





I tried edit the post earlier but apparently the time had passed and would not allow it. I wanted to delete Moderna from the post because I do believe the request under FOIA is just for Pfizer. Then I just now remembered that I can do this. lol
 

michael59

Celestial
A large group of scientists got together and requested the documentation that the FDA used to ascertain approval of the vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna. The turn around time is suppose to be 20 days to get the information under the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) to the scientists but the FDA is saying that it will only release 500 redacted pages a month until the year 2076.





Am I so emotionally delicate that you can't tell me that the site I listed as a source in my post is crap? Or what, don't tell me you guys are afraid of lil ol me? w1 b0010
 

nivek

As Above So Below
This only means 73 percent of their sampling was omicron...

 

Standingstones

Celestial
My wife’s friend had Covid-19 earlier in the year. Now she felt a head cold coming on. Just to be safe she went and got tested again. Luckily it was just that, a head cold. I too notice that the masks are being worn again in stores etc.

I see that there was an outbreak of Covid on a Royal Caribbean cruise ship this week (the largest cruise ship in the world.) I would be so reluctant to take a cruise or fly on a plane at this time. I guess some people just don’t care.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I am just totally burned out from covid and all the jabberwocky. Everyone's got some internet expert reference, we've all become biologists and disease transmission experts. Actually, I think Lue Elizondo really IS some of that, but that's another story .......

In the mean time I went back to my life, such as it is, out of necessity. Not running to get tested with each sniffle and wear the useless mask without complaint. Got the two Moderna shots and if I have to get the ***ing booster I will. Again, I'm not staring at a PC monitor I am out in the public dealing with dozens of strangers at close range every day. And nobody is getting sick. **** Omicron and the horse it rode in on.

My sister-in-law lives in Fear and is a good one to lecture on the efficacy of different types of masks, different types of vaccines, to confront people not wearing masks, the whole banana. Very clever, thanks. One day someone is going to react violently to that. Of course, if this got hold of my immune compromised brother it would be a different story, he's remained isolated also out of necessity. He had to anyway for about the same reasons so it isn't a stretch for him.

As I've mentioned here before, a coworker has a 7 year old who wants to take several showers a day and is terrified of covid, won't play with friends or go to school. The downstream price of all this has yet to be calculated.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
My nephew is a doctor in Delaware. In his office one of the secretaries decided to cop an attitude. Almost all medical offices require the staff to wear masks. She decided she didn’t need to. My nephew told to either put on a mask or go home. She pitched a fit and went to the lead doctor to complain. The main doctor backed up my nephew. Now they have this disgruntled employee they have to deal with. Man Oh man!
 

cosmic joke

Honorable
living in fear. the new normal? or simply the old normal. been part of the way of life since the beginnings of mankind methinks.
anyway. neither myself or my wife have been tested for the covid thing. but still we both got the shots and will get the booster as well. why not, it's free. flu shots every year since our old age began and for me the pneumonia shot early next year after we return home from our East Coast christmas visit. will be good to see the grandkids.
otherwise, we've no worries going out shopping or visiting friends/family. but we do keep our distance from folks when we shop and wear masks and sanitize our hands often while out. non of this is a big chore for us.
 

AD1184

Celestial
This only means 73 percent of their sampling was omicron...


Yes, but if the sampling was random then it becomes unlikely that the rate in the population is substantially different to that. The US is a large country, however, and Omicron is likely to be more prevalent in some areas than in others. Ideally, you would like Omicron to be at 100 percent, because then it will have completely displaced Delta.
 

AD1184

Celestial
I haven't heard of that many Omicron deaths so far, is the variant a milder one? Or is it still too early to tell still?
Yes, it is milder, but it is much more transmissible. The individual risk, having been infected, is lower, but the chance of getting infected is a lot higher. It is a bit early to tell for western nations, it may lead to more or fewer hospitalizations overall. People are tending to spend less time in hospital with it, however, and needing to spend less time in the ICU, if they have to go there.
 

AD1184

Celestial
London is seeing an uptick in the rate of hospitalization, according to this graph:

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https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=nhsRegion&areaName=London

Deaths have not yet followed suit:

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https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=region&areaName=London

Even if the death graph did start to up-tick markedly, however, that is not the whole story, due to how these statistics are defined. 'Hospitalizations' are defined thusly:

"England data include people admitted to hospital who tested positive for COVID-19:
  • in the 14 days before their admission
  • during their stay in hospital Inpatients diagnosed with COVID-19 after admission are reported as being admitted on the day before their diagnosis."
And deaths as "people who died within 28 days of their first positive test for COVID-19."

That means that the hospitalizations include incidental findings of people who are in hospital primarily for another reason, and those who caught the infection during their stay (which is important, because hospitals are hotbeds of infection, as has been proven by previous waves). Apparently a lot of hospitalizations are due to incidental findings of Covid. Death data will also include those who die of other causes, but who tested positive in the four weeks before their death. The real increase in deaths, if there is to be any, will be revealed through excess mortality figures.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
So far we've had no new cases at work, 3 of the 10 people that were out because of falling sick with covid have returned to work, most have had mild symptoms except 1 person...One guy who got sick last week is now hospitalized and on a ventilator, he wasn't vaccinated...

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So far we've had no new cases at work, 3 of the 10 people that were out because of falling sick with covid have returned to work, most have had mild symptoms except 1 person...One guy who got sick last week is now hospitalized and on a ventilator, he wasn't vaccinated...

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Yep. Same here in Finland, about 80 percent of those who go to intensive are not vaccinated and about 66 percent of the people on intensive care are over 60. So old/multiple illnesses and not vaccinated, bad combination.

Omicron took over last week in my country and my region.

I still have to wait for my 3rd shot, im part of the risk group but only 40 and have double dose of Moderna, so I hope I will be ok. If this is a milder one, I should be even if I happen to get it. <---
"famous last words".
 
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nivek

As Above So Below
Yep. Same here in Finland, about 80 percent of those who go to intensive are not vaccinated and about 66 percent of the people on intensive care are over 60. So old/multiple illnesses and not vaccinated, bad combination.

Omicron took over last week in my country and my region.

I still have to wait for my 3rd shot, im part of the risk group but only 40 and have double dose of Moderna, so I hope I will be ok. If this is a milder one, I should be even if I happen to get it. <---
"famous last words".

I've only gotten one shot, the Johnson & Johnson, I was considering getting a booster shot but I think I'm going to pass on the booster...I was around some of those people at work who got sick with covid and I didnt get sick...The unvaccinated guy who's now in the hospital was around me for a few hours the day before he got sick and still I feel fine, that was a week ago...

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michael59

Celestial
I've only gotten one shot, the Johnson & Johnson, I was considering getting a booster shot but I think I'm going to pass on the booster...I was around some of those people at work who got sick with covid and I didnt get sick...The unvaccinated guy who's now in the hospital was around me for a few hours the day before he got sick and still I feel fine, that was a week ago...

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I found this article that you might find interesting, Nivek. I recommend reading the entire article but I am just going to quote what they say about J&J. This article is dated Wed, Oct 6 2021 11:21 AM EDT
The one exception: If you got Johnson & Johnson’s one-shot Covid vaccine, you may be cleared for a booster shot relatively soon. On Tuesday, the drugmaker submitted data to the Food and Drug Administration for a booster shot of its one-shot Covid vaccine, which it says provides 94% protection against symptomatic Covid-19 in the United States and 100% protection against severe disease at least 14 days after the dose.

The FDA’s advisory committee will meet to discuss J&J’s booster shots, plus the “mix-and-match” approach of using an mRNA booster for one-shot recipients, on Oct. 15. If the FDA approves either one, the CDC will then determine specific guidelines for the rollout.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/06/dont-get-a-booster-shot-before-youre-eligible-heres-why.html
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Regent Street... four days before Christmas: Crowds ABANDON the West End as self-policing Britons put THEMSELVES in lockdown by staying at home and avoiding pubs and restaurants



London's West End was deserted again today with few shoppers to be seen on Regent Street and Oxford Street as hospitality leaders warned that pubs and restaurants face a 'cataclysmic' Christmas season. The New West End Company said that footfall in London's shopping district was down by 17 per cent last weekend compared to the same period in 2019, and down by 5 per cent on the previous week. Across the entire week starting on December 13, shopper numbers were down by 29 per cent compared with two years ago. It comes as Britons are now putting themselves into a pre-Christmas lockdown with nearly half saying the Government's current Covid-19 measures do not go far enough, with just four days to go until December 25. A survey by Ipsos MORI revealed a majority of Britons are now taking matters into their own hands to reduce their chances of catching the virus, with 58 per cent saying they have avoided public transport or plan to do so. Trains and roads in the capital were again empty this morning, with workers staying at home and TomTom data showing London had its quietest morning rush hour since the first day of the third lockdown. Pictured: A nearly-empty Regent Street in London at about 10.15am today (top), very quiet streets in the West End last night including Old Compton Street (bottom left and bottom right) and the M25 / M23 intersection in Surrey during rush hour at 8.45am yesterday morning (bottom centre).

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nivek

As Above So Below
Army to announce it has developed a single vaccine that protects from ALL variants of COVID and SARS

After nearly two years, scientists at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research believe they have developed a vaccine that is effective against all COVID and SARS variants.

Researchers at Walter Reed expect to officially announce the completion of the vaccine in the coming weeks, Defense One first reported.

The Army began working on the Spike Ferritin Nanoparticle COVID-19 vaccine (SpFN) in early 2020. From the beginning, they worked to create a vaccine that would protect against all existing and potential variants of the viruses.

The lab completed animal trials earlier this year with positive results before being approved for Phase 1 of human trials in April 2021. Dr. Kayvon Modjarrad, director of Walter Reed's infectious diseases branch, confirmed to Defense One that Phase 1 successfully finished earlier this month testing against Omicron and other existing variants.

Results showed that the SpFN vaccine creates both a strong immune response and broad protection against multiple COVID and SARS variants. 'The accelerating emergence of human coronaviruses throughout the past two decades and the rise of SARS-CoV-2 variants, including most recently Omicron, underscore the continued need for next-generation preemptive vaccines that confer broad protection against coronavirus diseases,' Modjarrad said.

'It's very exciting to get to this point for our entire team and I think for the entire Army as well,' he continued.

Phase 1 tested the vaccine on human subjects who had neither been vaccinated nor previously infected with COVID. Next, the vaccine will need to be tested on human subjects who have been vaccinated or previously tested positive for the virus.

'With Omicron, there's no way really to escape this virus. You're not going to be able to avoid it. So I think pretty soon either the whole world will be vaccinated or have been infected,' Modjarrad said.

Walter Reed is working with an unnamed industry partner for the next rollout of the vaccine.

'Our strategy has been to develop a 'pan-coronavirus' vaccine technology that could potentially offer safe, effective and durable protection against multiple coronavirus strains and species,' Modjarrad said.

The SpFN vaccine uses a soccer ball-shaped protein with 24 faces which allows the spikes of multiple coronavirus strains to be attached on different faces of the protein.

The Army's discovery comes as the Omicron variant has caused a recent spike of the COVID around the world.


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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Romanians protesting against COVID passes try to storm parliament


Al Jazeera

Romanians protesting against COVID passes try to storm parliament

Romanian protesters have tried to force their way into parliament, blocking traffic and vandalising some cars in the capital Bucharest in an attempt to prevent lawmakers from making a COVID-19 health pass mandatory for workers.

Riot police were caught off guard on Tuesday when hundreds of protesters poured in through a yard gate, spray painting cars and forcing security staff to block the building’s entryways. The protesters later left. The police did not use force.

While the governing coalition of centrists and left-wingers is currently negotiating the terms of a health pass mandate, no such bill is on parliament’s legislative agenda at the moment.

An estimated 2,000-2,500 mostly maskless demonstrators from across the country gathered outside parliament in the morning, waving Romanian flags and chanting “Freedom,” in a protest organised by the opposition ultra-nationalist Alliance for Uniting Romanians (AUR).

Chaos briefly ensued as dozens forced their way into the parliament building courtyard and some tried to access the building but were stopped by riot police.

Romania, a European Union nation of about 19 million, faced its deadliest surge of coronavirus infections and deaths through October and November when intensive care units across the country were overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients, and hospital morgues ran out of space.

In response to the unfolding disaster, authorities tightened restrictions in late October, and daily coronavirus cases have since dropped to their lowest since August.

Authorities are now looking at ways to try to avert another grim virus surge – now a real concern after Romania confirmed more than a dozen cases of the Omicron coronavirus variant.

Also in October, Romanian senators narrowly rejected a bill requiring medical staff, public sector workers and those of large privately-owned firms to carry a COVID-19 health pass which was aimed at boosting vaccine uptake.

The coalition government is negotiating a new bill that would require most workers to show they are either vaccinated, have recovered from the virus or have a recent negative test, but have yet to agree on who pays for testing and for how long.

Romania is the EU’s second-least vaccinated state, with roughly 40 percent of the population inoculated amid distrust in state institutions and poor vaccine education. At the height of the fourth wave in late October, Romania topped global lists of new coronavirus deaths per million.

Romania’s health ministry said in a news release on Monday that the adoption of the law on the digital COVID-19 certificate “must take into account the interest of public health” but also cater to the “proper functioning of the economy”.

During the festive holidays, hundreds of thousands of Romanians living abroad are expected to return home, which prompted authorities on Monday to implement passenger location forms to improve the traceability of infections. In 24 hours, more than 100,000 forms have been filled out.

Beatrice Mahler, hospital manager of Bucharest’s Marius Nasta Institute of Pneumology, which has been on the front line of the pandemic, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that her hospital has been busy disinfecting wards, repairing medical equipment, and revising medical oxygen supplies.

“This moment is sensitive and critical,” Mahler said. “I hope that the experience of the past waves will be the one that will make us responsible … and understand that testing is mandatory if we want to protect our loved ones.”
 
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