nivek
As Above So Below
Which link is that, I'll try to fix it...
Filakius
Adept
Hi Nivek. The link is okay.., I just can't read the text properly.
http://cdn.theeventchronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/McCandlish-diagram.jpg
I had a look at the other links.., but nothing amazing. We are doing some amazing stuff with magnets and other forms of levitation these days.
Heres a new version of the spinning top
Electromagnetic Induction
ION Lifter
Electromagnetic Quadcopter
Ferrofluid
Acoustic levitation
This is interesting too
New magnet designs (Skip to 2mins)
Hydrodynamic Levitation
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nivek
As Above So Below
Interesting read here, disinformation, diversion, distraction?...
There's more to read in the link...
Is the Mark McCandlish Alien Reproduction Vehicle Nothing More Than Project 1794?
Neither Brad nor Mark had a technical background. Both might have been accomplished illustrators, but engineers or rocket scientists they were not.
Therefore, it seems plausible that both men – faced with an unusual craft like the one Brad witnessed – could have drawn such far-fetched and incorrect conclusions about the vehicle.
Brad, Mark and many of their colleagues and friends went on to speculate that the craft observed by Brad was some kind of reverse-engineered alien vehicle (hence the nick name “Alien Reproduction Vehicle”).
The reality was that the Air Force really did have such craft in its possession, and its origin was not alien – but instead was the invention and creation of the folks at Canadian aerospace company Avro Aircraft Limited in Ontario.
Whether Brad was shown this 1956 craft, or some later generation of it, is uncertain – but the glaring commonalities between his observations and this now-declassified project make it fairly clear that the craft was one and the same.
The real question is whether the “high-ranking official” who decided to show these VIP’s the still-SECRET aircraft during the air show ever suspected that Brad’s observations that day would eventually transform into an elaborate conspiracy theory, complete with speculation involving anti-gravity propulsion systems and “Tesla coils”?
Or maybe that was the intent of the Air Force official all along?
Either way – mission accomplished.
The ARV is unfortunately a Ufology meme that may probably never die – but at the very least, the declassification of this project can bring sane observers back to their senses.
There's more to read in the link...
Is the Mark McCandlish Alien Reproduction Vehicle Nothing More Than Project 1794?
Neither Brad nor Mark had a technical background. Both might have been accomplished illustrators, but engineers or rocket scientists they were not.
Therefore, it seems plausible that both men – faced with an unusual craft like the one Brad witnessed – could have drawn such far-fetched and incorrect conclusions about the vehicle.
Brad, Mark and many of their colleagues and friends went on to speculate that the craft observed by Brad was some kind of reverse-engineered alien vehicle (hence the nick name “Alien Reproduction Vehicle”).
The reality was that the Air Force really did have such craft in its possession, and its origin was not alien – but instead was the invention and creation of the folks at Canadian aerospace company Avro Aircraft Limited in Ontario.
Whether Brad was shown this 1956 craft, or some later generation of it, is uncertain – but the glaring commonalities between his observations and this now-declassified project make it fairly clear that the craft was one and the same.
The real question is whether the “high-ranking official” who decided to show these VIP’s the still-SECRET aircraft during the air show ever suspected that Brad’s observations that day would eventually transform into an elaborate conspiracy theory, complete with speculation involving anti-gravity propulsion systems and “Tesla coils”?
Or maybe that was the intent of the Air Force official all along?
Either way – mission accomplished.
The ARV is unfortunately a Ufology meme that may probably never die – but at the very least, the declassification of this project can bring sane observers back to their senses.
Gambeir
Celestial
Thanks. Sorry about being slow on this. I'm busy and have to respond to experimenter and such while fixing faucets and the other incidentals that go with life.
Gambeir
Celestial
Scribbled by a know nothing Nivek: Meaningless dribble scrawled out by a paid gate keeper is all it is. Pay no attention to this sort of denial of reality. I posted the outline here as a courtesy, but it's posted where thousands of others can see it, and they have seen and read it, and they know and understand what I'm talking about.
Like I said, I don't expect that the people here will read it and then have a light bulb go off, but it has elsewhere in places where it counts; where people will begin applying the principles and ideas to their own experiments.
It won't help for me to tell you anything unless you want to understand how it works. I've already cited where to go to look at critical elements in the machine. None of these are open to debate. This is what they do. Like a bullet comes out of gun barrel, same sort of basic physics, so there's nothing to debate here.
A spinning disc with an applied electrical field which is composed of a dielectric and conductor will create a magnetic field perpendicular to the disc's rotation. Essentially gravitomagnetism: Which is what it sounds like, a form of gravity according to theory, and the amount of which is a product of spin RPM's, and applied electrical field.
The generated magnetic field is only regulated by the amount of energy flowing through it and the permittivity of the dielectric insulation. At a certain point this magnetic field will become strong enough to repel the earths magnetic field the same way two opposing magnets repel each other. It's not a complex idea in principle and it's not a product of complex physics on the face of it. In concept it's a simple straight forward idea.
So once more now, this machine is now deciphered, we understand how it works. It's all based upon known proven laws of physics and electrical theory. All that's required is technical expertise and sufficiently suitable materials and those have existed for at least a half century.
PS: I have had validation from private researchers that this is what they themselves have fundamentally arrived at some time ago. Secret lab leaks in other words.
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Area201
cold fusion
This is some great research and summary Gambeir! It's the only thread I'm following actually.
My father is an electronic engineer but I'm more on the design/creative side of things, not mechanically inclined.
My guess is that the ARV exists, is man-made. But so do ET crafts of various sorts and to answer your question why this planet is significant to visit - the genetic diversity would be my best guess and what I've been hearing. Also, I suspect some people have karmic connections with those ETs, as this universe is vast and (if we believe in the soul reincarnating in various 3D forms) some have come from other planets in other lifetimes, or interacted with ETs in the past on Earth.
It only gets more complex the more we delve into it.
I'm not catching the Jewish references. It sounds like you are saying Jews took the Nazi blueprints from the concentration camps back to Israel?... which doesn't make sense to me. There was an area in Silesia (now Poland) where they have a "fly trap" contraption and black project working on the Glock or Nazi Bell (sounds like what the ARVs are based off). Nazis were absorbed the US and into these black projects to continue their work and finish them. I would imagine Israel/Jews would have an issue with Nazis and working with them, one of the 64 reasons for the secrecy.
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Area201
cold fusion
This site is dedicated to helping anyone build a saucer based on the plans of OTC Enterprises.
"Did OTC Enterprises of Apple Valley California succeed in developing a mind-operated "Circular Foil Craft" that transported Ralph Ring and two other men ten-miles away and back at the speed of thought?
Start a "Pod"
"Pods" is the name that Ralph has given those groups of hobbyists who are researching the viability of Carr's design, hoping to ultimately construct an operational craft. Many have requested to join a pod in their city; but, there are very few people in the world who are actually researching, testing, and building. Ralph Ring calls these groups "Pods". They have offered to councel new Pods, individuals or groups to help them get started, provided they've already taken action: built a component, tested a concept or theory related to the OTC-X1, etc. Do you think you can figure how and whether it can levitate? Do you want to start your own Pod and build your own first real spacecraft? Then you're in the right place. This website contains most, if not all, of the information related to Otis T. Carr and his design. Good luck."
His assistant Ralph Ring, shares the story and current ZPE technology ready for use now. Incidentally Ralph looks like my Godfather actually lol
"Did OTC Enterprises of Apple Valley California succeed in developing a mind-operated "Circular Foil Craft" that transported Ralph Ring and two other men ten-miles away and back at the speed of thought?
Start a "Pod"
"Pods" is the name that Ralph has given those groups of hobbyists who are researching the viability of Carr's design, hoping to ultimately construct an operational craft. Many have requested to join a pod in their city; but, there are very few people in the world who are actually researching, testing, and building. Ralph Ring calls these groups "Pods". They have offered to councel new Pods, individuals or groups to help them get started, provided they've already taken action: built a component, tested a concept or theory related to the OTC-X1, etc. Do you think you can figure how and whether it can levitate? Do you want to start your own Pod and build your own first real spacecraft? Then you're in the right place. This website contains most, if not all, of the information related to Otis T. Carr and his design. Good luck."
His assistant Ralph Ring, shares the story and current ZPE technology ready for use now. Incidentally Ralph looks like my Godfather actually lol
CasualBystander
Celestial
The Avro circular craft had major performance issues and aside from looking cool was nothing special.
Takes clever engineering and high power to weight ratio to have maneuverability and high acceleration. And a lot of power to hover, has to be more than 1:1, 767 has about a 1:3 thrust to weight ratio. Only top line modern fighters have a better than 1:1 thrust to weight ratio - and they have a range of about 500 miles. An F15 with a 1:1 TtWR that goes supersonic gets about 0.17 miles per gallon.
That is why it is my position that the triangles (if they exist) are nuclear powered.
Take the F15. If it had thrust vectoring so it could effectively hover it would run out of fuel in about 30 minutes (60,000 lb/hr max thrust consumption rate and 23,280 pounds of fuel).
Takes clever engineering and high power to weight ratio to have maneuverability and high acceleration. And a lot of power to hover, has to be more than 1:1, 767 has about a 1:3 thrust to weight ratio. Only top line modern fighters have a better than 1:1 thrust to weight ratio - and they have a range of about 500 miles. An F15 with a 1:1 TtWR that goes supersonic gets about 0.17 miles per gallon.
That is why it is my position that the triangles (if they exist) are nuclear powered.
Take the F15. If it had thrust vectoring so it could effectively hover it would run out of fuel in about 30 minutes (60,000 lb/hr max thrust consumption rate and 23,280 pounds of fuel).
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3FEL9
Islander
What are they thrusting ? How can nuclear heat get converted to thrust ? without a intermediate steamturbine ?
CasualBystander
Celestial
Huh???
Take a jet engine - route the compressor output through the nuclear engine back to the turbine input.
The nuclear engine replaces the combustion stage in the turbine.
If you want extra boost inject water or any other low boiling point liquid in the reactor loop.
3FEL9
Islander
But the fuel rods,, can they get as hot as burning jet fuel ?
Mathias Båge
Adept
Hi, all!
I'm a self-taught programmer living in Stockholm, Sweden, and am
extremely interested in the ARV.
I've worked in a development project directly with John Searl
(1996-2003, on-and-off, but 1997 almost full-time) and would like to
share my views on how the ARV might work, partly based on what I
learned from my insights gotten from the Searl project. My views are
pretty different from those shared here and at the Energetic Forum.
BTW, I can't post at the Energetic Forum right now. I applied
for membership about a month ago, and the account is activated but
still in the so-called moderation queue, and I cannot post.
Also, the captcha is broken, so I can't get a new password (forgot the
one I registered). I just emailed their admin.
/Mathias Båge
I'm a self-taught programmer living in Stockholm, Sweden, and am
extremely interested in the ARV.
I've worked in a development project directly with John Searl
(1996-2003, on-and-off, but 1997 almost full-time) and would like to
share my views on how the ARV might work, partly based on what I
learned from my insights gotten from the Searl project. My views are
pretty different from those shared here and at the Energetic Forum.
BTW, I can't post at the Energetic Forum right now. I applied
for membership about a month ago, and the account is activated but
still in the so-called moderation queue, and I cannot post.
Also, the captcha is broken, so I can't get a new password (forgot the
one I registered). I just emailed their admin.
/Mathias Båge
Toroid
Founding Member
Welcome aboard.
3FEL9
Islander
Welcome..
Please tell us about John Searls generator technology.. I took a quick look online,, and the verdict ,, well
nivek
As Above So Below
Welcome to AE, feel free to repost any information here...
I wanted to ask about this pic you posted, what year was it taken?...
Mathias Båge
Adept
Welcome to AE, feel free to repost any information here...
I wanted to ask about this pic you posted, what year was it taken?...
Early seventies.
And I will indeed.
Mathias Båge
Adept
Background
At the age of 12 (mid-seventies) I read about John Searl in a swedish
newpaper. There was a picture of him next to his saucer craft that
seemingly hovered in the air above and behind him.
(I still regret that I didn't contact him and his team in England back
then, but I was probably too young, anyway.)
The article stated that the drive system consisted of magnets that
rotated somehow.
Imagine all drawings I made for years thereafter, usually with a large
rotating disk at the bottom of the craft!
Actually, I was fashinated by -- and had drawn -- flying saucers long
before the newpaper article, and I guess it resonated in me more
than in the average swede.
The article marked the beginning of my life-long (although interrupted
by realities of life, and lack of workable tech clues) quest to
understand how to build a working flying saucer.
Later in the seventies, I bought a book about Viktor Schauberger, and
reading about the Repulsin only increased my interest in flying saucer
construction.
In 1993 I stumbled upon a few text documents about John Searl on the
KeelyNet BBS (dial-up), and I realized that this was the man in the
newspaper article.
In early 1996, a friend pointed me to a USENET newsgroup post (IIRC, could've
been on the web) that said that John Searl is going to present at two
seminars in England, so in the spring and summer of that year I
participated those seminars, and shortly thereafter I became member of
the newly-formed team ("the new team") based in England (now dead
website: sisrc.com). We tried to recreate the technology that John
Searl and his old team had created earlier, but for various reasons
(spelled problems with magnetization) we did not succeed. We
didn't focus on the energy side and not the flying side, although the
prospect of the latter was a real driving force for many of us!
I spent a great deal of 1997 on this project, mainly procuring
components for our prototype (magnets and dielectric). I also
participated in general discussions about the technology with John
Searl and the other members of the new team.
The team broke up in 2003 after a row with John Searl.
So, what did I learn from this interesting experience?
In 2005 I wrote a paper describing my understanding of the SEG at
that point:
http://blog.lege.net/Mathias_Bage/The_SEG-Introduction_and_analysis.pdf
It is partly unfinished. And I hadn't talked to Peter Searl yet.
Now I must get some sleep.
/Mathias Båge
At the age of 12 (mid-seventies) I read about John Searl in a swedish
newpaper. There was a picture of him next to his saucer craft that
seemingly hovered in the air above and behind him.
(I still regret that I didn't contact him and his team in England back
then, but I was probably too young, anyway.)
The article stated that the drive system consisted of magnets that
rotated somehow.
Imagine all drawings I made for years thereafter, usually with a large
rotating disk at the bottom of the craft!
Actually, I was fashinated by -- and had drawn -- flying saucers long
before the newpaper article, and I guess it resonated in me more
than in the average swede.
The article marked the beginning of my life-long (although interrupted
by realities of life, and lack of workable tech clues) quest to
understand how to build a working flying saucer.
Later in the seventies, I bought a book about Viktor Schauberger, and
reading about the Repulsin only increased my interest in flying saucer
construction.
In 1993 I stumbled upon a few text documents about John Searl on the
KeelyNet BBS (dial-up), and I realized that this was the man in the
newspaper article.
In early 1996, a friend pointed me to a USENET newsgroup post (IIRC, could've
been on the web) that said that John Searl is going to present at two
seminars in England, so in the spring and summer of that year I
participated those seminars, and shortly thereafter I became member of
the newly-formed team ("the new team") based in England (now dead
website: sisrc.com). We tried to recreate the technology that John
Searl and his old team had created earlier, but for various reasons
(spelled problems with magnetization) we did not succeed. We
didn't focus on the energy side and not the flying side, although the
prospect of the latter was a real driving force for many of us!
I spent a great deal of 1997 on this project, mainly procuring
components for our prototype (magnets and dielectric). I also
participated in general discussions about the technology with John
Searl and the other members of the new team.
The team broke up in 2003 after a row with John Searl.
So, what did I learn from this interesting experience?
- John Searl didn't really know how to build a working SEG. Those
who knew were the more skilled members of his first team (a group just
called "ONL") that consisted of retired workers/engineers from the
Midlands Electricity Board that, and that Searl had successfully
convinced to help him build his first SEG after he did some
fascinating experiments with unlubricated roller bearings propelled by
pressurized air (the alleged inspiration of the SEG, according to his
brother Peter). Midlands Electricity Board had at their premises a
decommissioned turbine shaft demagnitizer the size of a small room.
They modified it for the special magnetization required for the SEG
("magnetic sprockets"). This big machine was scrapped in the early
nineties after remaining for a long time at the Midlands Electricity
Board. The board actually contacted him before scrapping it, but he
had nowhere to put it! Now you might understand why the new team were
unable to build a working magnetizer!
- They could never control the flying versions of the SEG (IGV) --
they just shot right up into space, and this obviously raises questions
about the above photo.
I learned this from a long phone conversation with John's brother
Peter more than ten years ago. Peter also recounted when unidentified
men suddenly appeared (in the late sixties, IIRC) at their site and
smashed all the things they were working on. This didn't dissuade
them, and they rebuilt everyting and continued their work.
Note that this uncontrollability was also the case with Schauberger's
Repulsin -- his first Repulsin was destroyed when it hit the ceiling
just after turning it on.
- The SEG helped me understand other similar devices like the
Repulsin, most notably the MAGVID[/B} -- the interesting
solid-state device that I will focus on in coming posts. Please hear
me on this: the MAGVID directly relates to the ARV, in my
(probably not so humble) opinion!
In 2005 I wrote a paper describing my understanding of the SEG at
that point:
http://blog.lege.net/Mathias_Bage/The_SEG-Introduction_and_analysis.pdf
It is partly unfinished. And I hadn't talked to Peter Searl yet.
Now I must get some sleep.
/Mathias Båge
Gambeir
Celestial
Hi Mathias,
I'm afraid I've been quite side tracked for a long while and off the forum. However, I recommend Alien Expanse as a hang~out, and try to maintain some activity. I know that there are other members from other sites that are visiting here, if they are not members as well. My own absence has not been intentional.
I've been exchanging information with John R. Iwaszko, whom together with his brother, are two of the foremost authorities on the known forms of antigravity. John's new website is at the link.
AurumSolis Technologies – Inspiring Technological Innovation
These are real scientists, not theoretical scientists, and together they have something like 4 decades of experience in the topic. I also briefy exchanged a few emails with Mark McCandlish whom shared what information he has obtained and rooted out on his own quite freely.
At least one other person, possibly yourself, attempted to communicate some information with me. Perhaps involved in a corporate black project involving anti~gravity.
Basically the ARV appears to have two, possibly three, forms of propulsion. There is a form of propulsion derived from so~called vacuum polarization induced by charged currents pulsed through a capacitor system. There is possibly another form of drive also involved through the center colum, and the machine is likely to have a form of supportive exterior charged atmospheric particles which can enable cloaking from radar, as well as possibly a type of cloud creating technology for visible cloaking which would be combined with a primitive form of projector cloaking.
Is there anything specific which you want to ask me?
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Gambeir
Celestial
PS: I'll be checking back and looking forward to your posts on this topic. Really interested in hearing your thoughts and ideas on the propulsion system. Again, it's my view that there are number of methods which might explain it's operation. That's actually been one of the problems since the way it works seems to constantly morph as our knowledge grows. Also, by no means have we got this sucker figured out. Still wide open to potential explanations and then applied tests as a way to move forwards with this subject.
You wouldn't happen to be the author of this article would you?
Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge
You wouldn't happen to be the author of this article would you?
Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge