Alien Reproduction Vehicle

I already tried to make the expanded quarts crystals with 19KV, 50mA (DC) switched with a rotary switch I built, but I guess that is just not enough power to make it work, or quite possible not high enough frequency.
seems like high power RF is the way to go. (this is how others said they did it) and if you can break them with high power RF, then it should have enough power to strip the bits of crystal out of a solid matrix.
sadly the highest power out I have in the correct frequency range is 100W, and by all accounts, that is not nearly enough power. and I only have 45W (PEP) out if I want to drive it with my arbitrary waveform generators. (but that is likely enough power to drive a larger power amplifier if I ever manage to get one)
I have a few IGBT transistors (toshiba MG300Q1US41) that can deal with 2KW each, but the upper switching limit is about 500KHz, so with any sort of good waveform shape, I will likely only get 50KHz out of them. not sure if that is high enough frequency to justify bothering to build anything with them.
maybe I should use a microwave oven transformer and set it up with a spark gap and resonant circuit. and set up 2 of them on separate frequencies to get the wave form shape needed.
another thought is that IRF510 is likely fast enough (or things like it), would just take quite a few of them, and I have hope of affording them, so maybe that is the route to go...
been thinking about how to make the expanded crystals for a while now, even been dreaming about it lately.

Mathias Båge said:

My hypothesis: The MAGVID is the ARV's FTL propulsion system

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Oops, only now did I realize that the image with the ARV callouts didn't get through to the forum. Sorry.



This should've gone into the post titled My hypothesis: The MAGVID is the ARV's FTL propulsion system.
/Mathias Båge

nivek said:

I've thought about advantages in using crystal capacitors for high voltage RF equipment which I know well and I had in the workplace of a previous job I recently had in management and engineering...The leaded ceramic capacitors can give out too easily under some higher load stresses...

Welcome to AE, glad you're here, we have a good mix of topics here, hope you enjoy...

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By all means don't hold back and inject any ideas or thoughts which happen. No one here is an expert; it's not like any of us have a flying saucer in the back yard just yet.

Right now this looks like a seemingly confused and swirling mix of material, and it might be helpful to look at the whole by knowing the historical origins. Two historical accounts of experiments and writing, together with one story, said to be a fictional account, are the foundations for most everything else which follows. Essentially they are:

Schauberger Repulsin Vortex & Implosion Technology
Kowsky-Frost Quartz Levitation Story
Thomas Townsend Brown's Gravitator

Thoughts about materials used in the ARV gravitator, post #2

This just struck me today:

Maybe the ARV's gravitator actually use heavy materials in its
plates and dielectric, and Brad Sorenson just couldn't discern that
the transparent material was also present between the plates!

If this is the case, the transparent material (with a blusish hue,
IIRC) around the pie slices might just be a casing material to keep
the different pie slices in place & well separated, and it's probably
a synthetic resin.

/Mathias Båge

I agree, I did use green in most of my illustrations to suggest polyester resin as a binder, just because that's most recognizable color wise; a pale green or pale blue tone.

I think you're following a good track Mathias, I just don't want to pollute it too much, because I don't think there's a right or wrong answer here. This is a machine created from historical developments probably dating back before WWII. Like any machine it evolved, and so we know it has a motor, but what kind and I think the intention is that there are a number of different motor types that evolved out of primary concept, some of which might seem to have little resemblance to the original.

So from what you've posted and given I have two concepts of possible operation that I see (not including the description of the control and maneuvering) where potential exploitation's exist.

I say this because the method of operation is dictated by the previous information you posed about the virtual magnets, and it's what they do that then describes what the secondary system beneath and in conjunction with the virtual magnets must be doing, otherwise it can't make sense. Understand? It's like a sort of binary agent. One thing exists to drive what the other is doing: It's like that.

Given the theoretical ideas of the time it's entirely possible that heavy metals could be involved. Now if you read what I said on the site which shall henceforth not be mentioned, then there maybe some logic to the notion that energies flow through materials because each energy finds it's best conductor.

Zero-Point Energy and electric BTV's: IGV and a repulsin-inspired
epiphany

Searl's IGV is (allegedly) both overunity and antigravitic. When an
electric BTV has formed around it, the rollers will keep on orbiting
the plates indefinitely, and electrons will (continue to) flow through
the conductive materials (rollers and plates) of the SEG, from the
center to the rim. One can tap into this "free" energy flow with the
C shaped coils that the outermost rollers pass through, i.e. we have
massive overunity. And I'm pretty sure that a huge potential is
present between the innermost (center) and outermost (rim) plates, but
converting that HV DC to more manageable levels is very hard (a
solid-state inverse Marx generator comes to mind). The C shaped coils
generate AC, which is way more manageable in that regard.



The repulsin also creates an electric BTV by recirculating air faster
and faster with the rilled diaphragms, and when the electric BTV
formed around the repulsin becomes self-sustaining at a certain motor
RPM and corresponding flow velocity, you will also have massive
overunity. But I don't think anyone has been able to tap into this
energy on a repulsin. Maybe because it is made of a sinlge piece of
conductive material (copper), and I assume that the electric potential
between the center (motor shaft) and the rim is low because of the
hign conductivity of copper. And you'd have to attach soft "pickup"
brushes around the rim to pick up the energy, but the copper will not
survive this treatment for long, anyway.

Maybe just fit a conductive ring at a suitable distance around the
repulsin (might cause arcing between them)? The ring will be "in the
way" of the electrons spewed out from the rim (equator) of the
repulsin, and it'll be more negative than the positive center (shaft)
of the repulsin, so you could tap that "free" HV DC from these
electrodes and make the current manageable with the inverse Marx
generator.


(Really out on a limb here )

Now, it wasn't until the other day I realized something about electric
BTV's in general, and it was the lack of magnets (Whoops: the shaft
drive motor generates magnetic fields [wonder if they matter here —
THEY MIGHT] [will post again on this!]!) in the repulsin that
put me on track: when the charged particles (electrons) in the
recirculating air starts to form an electric BTV, the electrons have
two main flow "axes": axially and radially (although twisted into
vortices).

Quoting my repulsin post:

1. charged particles moving radially out towards
   the rim, and following the right-hand rule, this would create an
   axial magnetic field.
2. charged particles flowing from the rim up (and down [!]) towards
   the more positive center (where the shaft is), and that would
   create rotating and somewhat radially oriented magnetic
   fields!
3. (new list point): these magnetic fields will likely induce eddy
   currents in the copper, which makes the whole thing messier and
   harder to understand

This means that the electron flows (axial & radial) themselves will
actually create the magnetic fields required to uphold the BTV,
i.e. it could be totally self-sustaining! At that point, you can
probably put brakes on the shaft and halt the rotation of the rilled
diaphragms to spare the bearings — the BTV will continue indefinitely
(I hope)! The problem left will be how to put brakes on the BTV

So, the general idea to tap the "free" energy from an electric BTV
might be:

1. have one or more electrode(s) (=positive pole) in/near the center
   of the machine, and make sure the electrons that flow into the
   "geographical poles" of the BTV will flow through this electrode
   inwards toward the point where they will start to flow outwards
   again at the "geographical equator" (rim) of the BTV, where they
   wrap around and head back to both poles again, and out the equator
   (rim) again and, ... ad infinitum.
2. have a ring electrode (=negative pole) at/near the rim of the
   machine

And you still have to handle the insanely high voltage between those
two electrodes.

But, is it really HV DC between the center electrode and the rim
electrode? I mean, all these "chaotic" recirculating electrons that
flow through those electrodes would result in a choppy and unpure
"AC", right? The repulsin is made of highly conductive copper (and
the rim electrode should, too), and maybe the sum of all those chaotic
potentials will sum even out to become more "DC".

The same thing might apply to the SEG since layered SEG's (see my SEG paper)
have a copper ring around each plate and roller segment.
So, yes, we'd probably have HV DC between those electrodes.

And of course, if it applies to the SEG, it'll apply to the MAGVID
(ARV).

Eh, right??

Oh, and it's that darn electric motor's fields ... hmm, too tired now
... did anyone bring a saw?

/Mathias Båge

T. T. Brown's electrets

T. T. Brown has written extensively about electrets. To make one, melt
carnauba wax and mix in e.g. tungsten carbide. Pour the molten mix
into a non-conductive tube with an electrode in the bottom. When
full, top it with another electrode. The connect your HV DC source to
each electrode and sustain the current until the wax has set. Now you
have an electret.

T. T. Brown (and others) claim that electrets have a measurable self
potential, and which regenerates after you've discharged it. I've
heard stories of the japanese using molten sugar electrets for power
during WWII.

Also, I heard from someone (can't remember who, but not from Searl
himself) that the old Searl team used to connect HV DC to electrodes
on the newly "baked" and pressed nylon-powder-bonded rollers and
plates (probably in the radial direction) while the nylon cooled and
set. The team I joined never did this, although we did condidered it, but
with teflon in layer 2 as the only dielectric (see my SEG paper),
it's kinda hard :-(

I wonder what would happen if the dielectric in the ARV's gravitator
was an electret!!??

/Mathias Båge

A mysterious post in the newelectrogravity Yahoo group

Way back, I stumbled upon an interesting post in the yahoogroups.com
group "newelectrogravity".

The poster recounts a childhood experience where he learned how a
WWII german saucer craft allegedly was steered. No information
about its drive system, though.

The post:

Yahoo! Groups

The newelectrogravity group requires membership, and g*d knows how
long it'll take for the group owner to see your request, so I included
it here:

cyberwolf [25 Sep 2004]

Hiya John,

The directional control and thrust I can answer, mainly because my mom was
Albert Weiss housekeeper, and the old fart decided to confide in a goofy
kid.
Old Al was one of the test pilots for the Vril and RFZ programs. He told me
that it was a series of hydraulically actuated magnetic panels, that were
matched on the facing side, to the polarity of a magnetic ring around the
center of the disc. These panels could be equated to shingles, and, as
individual panels or groups, ( I think there were 16 ) were pushed closer to
the ring, the repulsion would force the vehicle in a certain direction,
whatever that might be.
Al said that the only vehicle more stable was a tank.
Although I dont recall our conversations very clearly, thirty five years and
many pounds of marijauna do wonders for the memory, I do dinstinctly recall
that he became very animated when I asked about electromagnetism. He said
that it absolutely stopped the effect from working. I beleive he was talking
about the 5,6,7 series. On the earlier models, which were fan and jet
powered, an E.M field wouldn't interfere with the engines operation.
On the 5,6,7, there was a different form of propulsion used. It is called
the " Schumann Levitator ". That's the one that has me stymied.
This is the first that I have heard of the " E Group ". I dont doubt that
there may be something afoot though, and I'll tell you why.
In late 1944 or early 1945, there was a major combat action that took place
on Antarctica, then called "Neuschwabenlund". Admiral Arleigh Burke was one
of the combatants. According to what I read, it was both a naval and land
force engagement, fought on the Divisional level. The Nazi force was made up
primarily of SS Alpentroopen.
These were guys who could have passed BUDS ( Seal school). Better than a
division of them ( 100,000 men). A division of such men to protect Nazi
claim to an icecap? Oil? I doubt it. That late in the war, that much force
was needed in the homeland. And oil was much closer, all they had to do was
rekindle Rommels original plan of invading southern Russia, Odessa.
There had to be another reason for such a serious detachment to be stationed
down there. And Al once said something about colder temperatures being
integral in the initial startup of the mechanism.
However, such a force, protecting a highly valuable installation, perhaps a
development facility, for a weapon that would definitely change the outcome
of the war, that makes perfect sense.
It is my belief, based on as much forensics as I have access to, that the
Nazi's managed to either destroy, or secret the most vital of documentation
regarding Vril development.For instance, you can find no record beyond a
patent number for the Schumann Levitator, but it does have a patent number.
So where is the rest of the documentation? The Prototype?
Perhaps it was safely stashed in Antarctica, and now, specially selected
descendants of the Reich are rebuilding.
Other than being an inscription left on a scrapped ship that the Nazi's used
to build one of the vehicles, I dont really see another explaination, except
perhaps for it being one of those redundancy things. Like the same
inscription being used in a Vril Society rite as well as an ancient Greek
writing perhaps having the same meaning. I know of at least three symbols
which have the same meaning in Korea, Japan, and China, and have been in
each nations alphabet for generations. So perhaps there was an adaptation of
a Greek rite in a Vril rite.
I dont about Greece being non-industrial or non-technological. The Greek
Marines that I trained with were some of the ballsiest, kick in the pants
fun people I ever had the privelege to know. Not only was the food
excellent, but the Bosun was hell on wheels with any kind of machine or shop
tool you care to mention. And you guys had some of the coolest
communications stuff I ever saw.
Ancient astronauts, to me, is a no brainer. There is an area in the state of
Idaho, which was featured in National Geographic. In that area, there are
bunch's of paintings, which predate the great Plaque, which show bipedal
humanoids, with helmets and rifles, and flying machines. Some of these
images are quite clear. Similar images have been found in a cave in France,
and Inca or Mayan pyramids. That makes it pretty clear to me that we have
been visited.
I'll have to hunt around some more and see if I can find something concrete
on the E Group.
Until next time.
Later,
Lonny


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/Mathias Båge

Any progress yet ? Anyone

spacecase0 said:

. and I only have 45W (PEP) out if I want to drive it with my arbitrary waveform generators. (but that is likely enough power to drive a larger power amplifier if I ever manage to get one)
I have a few IGBT transistors (toshiba MG300Q1US41) that can deal with 2KW each, but the upper switching limit is about 500KHz, so with any sort of good waveform shape, I will likely only get 50KHz out of them. not sure if that is high enough frequency to justify bothering to build anything with them.

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BLF578 | Power LDMOS transistor | AMPLEON

AlterEgo said:

Any progress yet ? Anyone

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You are the one with a Death Star

Zeke said:

You are the one with a Death Star

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Well, I left it behind. So here I am.

Besides - I like vintage tech.

The smell of capacitors charging up in the morning... mmmm

The Flux. The Flux

Mathias Båge said:

I wonder what would happen if the dielectric in the ARV's gravitator
was an electret!!??

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then all you would have to do is to short the sections to see the effect.
and collect the energy while doing so.
anyone know what the electret recovery time is ? I thought it was fairly long
if this is how it is, this would imply the switching speed would not have to be very fast at all.

Hmm...well first off I can't afford to waste time at my age so the SEG is out. I could die before I understood the half of what I think might be taking place given all the variables. This isn't to say it's useless has a lot to teach.

Backing up, let's simply this down and start with the idea of levitation. We need a device which can send a repulsive force downwards to drive the vehicle off the ground. Right now most people are thinking of sending an opposing magnetic field downwards, or using a superconductor which expels the magnetic field, and thereby lift themselves off the magnetic field of earth. A somewhat dubious concept but nevertheless a patented idea.

Copper, bismuth, and aluminum are all so~called AG (antigravity metals) which repel away from a magnetic field via so called eddy currents when the magnetic field is moving over them, and it's claimed this is because these are also conductors and that's why they generate an eddy current. Yet again iron is a conductor and it also generates an eddy current when it too passes through a magnetic field. A magnet will stick to iron and tend to align it's crystalline molecules so as to create another magnet. It won't do this with copper for example. It won't stick but it will produce an eddy current, and then it does other things.

These metals doesn't just produce an eddy current. The faster the magnetic field moves over a piece of copper, the greater the reactive repulsion force is, and so there is a correlation to the speed of the magnetic field to the subsequent reactive repulsive force generated to a moving magnetic field. Notice here I say moving magnetic field.

This idea of eddy currents being the involved reactive force is demonstrated by many simple video's on youtube where someone is dropping a magnet through a copper or aluminum pipe which shows the braking effect of eddy currents. Notice the tube has to be a complete for the circuit to work. The pipe can't be split which would cause a break in the circuit rendering no braking effect (eddy currents)

So now we have this magnetic generating thingy that's overhead and what's it doing if there's this collection of 48 pies with thick copper plates stacked in layers beneath it?

AlterEgo said:

Well, I left it behind. So here I am.

Besides - I like vintage tech.

The smell of capacitors charging up in the morning... mmmm

The Flux. The Flux

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You won't be laughing when we leave you on this hellish planet all alone.
Repent while you can is my advice. Where is Harold Camping anyways?

Ya know I will say this, anyone who says this illustration is a fake doesn't know the half of what they are talking about, and if there is any evidence that it really is an illustration of a reverse engineered alien space craft, then it's because just about when you think you have it figured out, the bloody thing suddenly morphs on you and becomes something entirely different.

I can't begin to tell you how many times I thought ~Ah ha~ I've got it! Then five minutes later the whole thing blows up in my face. LOL~ I'm serious, I've been through these so called solutions again and again. It would take some kind of super intellect to be able to create a drawing which could be seen as explainable sixteen ways to Sunday and still not be right if it weren't real. So there's got to be a way to put this thing together when so much of it makes sense, and yet it's seemingly impossible to put all the pieces together in one complete functional explanation.

I remember the first people I asked about this. One or two came back and said they had it all figured. Uh huh? It's now like three years later for me and I can see all kinds of parts which make sense, but I cannot yet put all the parts to a single functioning machine, even thought each part is logical and works on it's own. Maybe I'm just stupid ~

This thing is like the Rubik's cube of space travel. There should be Nobel Prize for anyone who can show how it works, and because it's almost assured that somehow it does work. We need a unified field theory of operation. LOL~

I think we are getting there and eventually it will all come together. Going to have to think about this a little more.

Gambeir said:

You won't be laughing when we leave you on this hellish planet all alone.
Repent while you can is my advice. Where is Harold Camping anyways?

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Lol, If I was to be left here < All Alone > that would be paradise for me. Just beutiful planet, nature and me !

Please fix ARV ASAP and evacuate all humans -- > Alderaan

AlterEgo said:

Lol, If I was to he left here < All Alone > that would be paradise for me. Just beutiful planet, nature and me !

Please fix ARV ASAP and evacuate all humans

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Very well then, prepare for your seclusion in nature, my choice obviously~
Death Valley or the Sahara...hmm...

spacecase0 said:

then all you would have to do is to short the sections to see the effect.
and collect the energy while doing so.
anyone know what the electret recovery time is ? I thought it was fairly long
if this is how it is, this would imply the switching speed would not have to be very fast at all.

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What method of preparation of the electret?...magnetoelectrets I believe have a shorter time at higher temps where they are more stable and have a higher storage capacity...

spacecase0 said:

been thinking about how to make the expanded crystals for a while now, even been dreaming about it lately.

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Here's an interesting read...

Hyperexpandable, self-healing macromolecular crystals with integrated polymer networks