Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
What's that mean? What other forum am I 'attacking'? A bit overboard. My question to Brian was sincere: can this forum be trusted if Bob Watson is a moderator here? My question (and uncertainty) stands.

It is a very reasonable concern. Here we have a moderator on both this site and the Paracast site: on this site said moderator one could say is lulling us into believing he shares our disaffection with Gene - yet there he remains on the Paracast site, and even as I post said moderator is in deep conversation with Gene. What is one to think?

Keep in mind Gene has been threatening legal action - his 'the authorities' while 'the investigation' is underway. Gene is proving himself to be pretty nasty, willing to throw long standing supporters under the bus if they dare question him.

Please note that The Shadow has not answered the relevant questions about divided loyalties and being found out by Gene. I suspect Gene knows everything Bob is doing - so there's no issue about being found out - which then suggests something further - but that is speculation. Gene is no longer posting on-line (like on The UFO Trails) but I would guess he is following it all given his OCD tendencies. He has to know what Bob is up to. So what's the story?

This is not an insignificant concern given Gene's established belief that he is being denied his rightful income stream combined with his tendency to get ugly.
i agree with you, that thread you linked is some shocking evidence, maybe talk with nivek to de-mod him?
 

Ottilie

Adept
Looks like Gene is a wee bit paranoid, bet he's watching this forum just like we are watching his, the hypocrite.

Hi Gene! assclown

Under Online Attacks!

It seems that Gene is shutting down his 'Attack' thread - he has removed the thread from the 'Special Threads' section though he has not deleted the thread, it will have a slow death down the list.

Gene's last post/comments on the 'Attack' thread with my rejoinders :wink8: :wub8: -

Gene: "I'm going to close this thread now. I think Bob's screen captures demonstrate just some of the crazy things these online bullies are doing."

No less egregious than Gene's outing of names and contact information on his forum. Guess the connection has escaped Gene. Tit for a tat. He messes with people in RL - others can play that game.

Gene: "I do not see why these people would try to harass a total stranger and damage their livelihood and reputation."

Not sure who Gene is referring to but if to himself he needs to accept that the people pissed at him are people who have 'known' him for years and many of them gave him money. He's not listening.

Plus I do believe we have Gene here admitting that panhandling for money is his income stream.

Gene: "Also consider that fake offer of financial help, and it's only one of several I've received in recent years."

Of course, it's the internet. Why should Gene think this matters to anyone?

Gene: "The online haters are watching every word in this forum for to seize upon and misrepresent."

Clearly he is reading all this. Nothing is being misrepresented. Gene is being directly quoted. He digs his own hole.

Gene: "They are, as you see, also going after people connected with the show."

This must be a reference to Bob Watson. I am ambivalent - because Watson is a clear enabler of Gene. Being so, he needs to accept that he bears culpability for Gene's scam continuing. Hence, he will be a target of people's anger. Sad.

Gene: "If you see any further examples of this mischief and possibly criminal behavior, please open a private conversation with me so I can take appropriate action."

Again the threats, the intimidation, the forever bully when he doesn't get his way.

Gene: "Nobody deserves such treatment, but online bullies are common."

When you scam people, Gene, expect what comes.
 

Ottilie

Adept
i agree with you, that thread you linked is some shocking evidence, maybe talk with nivek to de-mod him?

Interesting, wasn't it? Still no answers being posted by Bob. But I'm more interested in how this whole thing got rationalized as a good idea to begin with - if one knows anything about what is going down on the Paracast Forums, and who is Gene's 'creature' and who is not. :huh8: Maybe nivek was not aware?

My questions are two with an implied third: how is it that Brian's Paracast account got deleted after he came on here? Doesn't make sense why that would happen. It suggests (tho there is no way to prove such) that there may be a connection between the sites (via a mod or Gene could be reading this site); But if Gene is reading this site why is Bob Watson still alive and well on the Paracast Forum when lesser sins have warranted banning? Conundrum.

Anyone with some light on the matter?

P.S. I am asking hard questions but this is a serious matter given how ugly Gene Steinberg gets when he is thwarted. Clarification is definitely needed (I absolutely trust nivek's good intentions and am grateful for the opportunity to post on a good chat site which I feel this is. :) Just to be clear!)
 
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goblin

Noble
Keep in mind Gene has been threatening legal action - his 'the authorities' while 'the investigation' is underway. Gene is proving himself to be pretty nasty, willing to throw long standing supporters under the bus if they dare question him.

Please note that The Shadow has not answered the relevant questions about divided loyalties and being found out by Gene. I suspect Gene knows everything Bob is doing - so there's no issue about being found out - which then suggests something further - but that is speculation. Gene is no longer posting on-line (like on The UFO Trails) but I would guess he is following it all given his OCD tendencies. He has to know what Bob is up to. So what's the story?

This is not an insignificant concern given Gene's established belief that he is being denied his rightful income stream combined with his tendency to get ugly.

I have no position on The Shadow but agreed about Gene getting ugly. I don't think compassion, understanding, or seeing other points of view are his strong suits. He doesn't appear to have much to lose but if he is going down any further, I'm confident he'll be grabbing at ankles the whole way.

Avoid Gene.
 

Ottilie

Adept
Please post all questions I will answer.

You are not answering so I will start.

Be aware that there are many people seriously pissed at Gene for the money scamming across years: they 'know' Gene and have given him money.

You are seen as one of Gene's enablers, especially when you stepped up to become a moderator/admin on the Paracast Forums. What do you say to that?

And how do you reconcile being a good moderator here while expressing unsupport of Gene - to being a good friend and support to Gene, as well as admin on the Paracast Forum where Gene does his money grab?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Clarification is definitely needed (I absolutely trust nivek's good intentions and am grateful for the opportunity to post on a good chat site which I feel this is. :) Just to be clear!)


Thank you, and your trust is not misplaced, I assure you...We have a good site here and it will be a great forum in the future, I think its wonderful that you all have chosen to come here, I'm glad to have you all here, all of our forum sections are active containing some great topics and discussions, hope you enjoy this place as much as I do...q37

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The shadow

The shadow knows!
I wish a bit of time to make sure my request is done.
I want to make it clear. I am not going to dodge a question.but I will say this .
Things change
Respect is earned and lost.
I trust the admin here.
And I just want a little time to make sure of things
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
I got the confirm I am no longer an admin there. I also got a call about one of my kids..
 

Brian

Adept
I got the confirm I am no longer an admin there. I also got a call about one of my kids..

Sorry about that, Bob, I am sure you feel some sense of betrayal. Not good. :( Who's calling you about your children? That's absolutely off-limits. :mad:
 

Brian

Adept
Gene: "I do not see why these people would try to harass a total stranger and damage their livelihood and reputation."

Not sure who Gene is referring to but if to himself he needs to accept that the people pissed at him are people who have 'known' him for years and many of them gave him money. He's not listening.

Plus I do believe we have Gene here admitting that panhandling for money is his income stream.

I disagree. He's listening but once a con, always a con. Gene Steinberg is always playing a con.

I agree that he admits to being a panhandler. What choice does he have? He's at the point where he is going to make or break based on a select few who support him and/or fund him. He has no shame.

I tried to signup for the forum...again...and was denied. But guess what? I got a copy of the latest Paracast BeggingLetter. No shame. None.
 

Ottilie

Adept
I disagree. He's listening but once a con, always a con. Gene Steinberg is always playing a con.
Sadly you are right I now see. :blush8:

BTW do you have any idea why his panhandling ratcheted up so many notches since the fall? It seems to have been non-stop since last summer and that's new. He usually always allowed 'decent intervals' between appeals. Gone are those days. Something changed. People leaving off posting.....? Leaving the Paracast Forums? I know that's why I decided to quit there last summer (plus the problems with Mike, the admin guy who was a massive jerk).
I agree that he admits to being a panhandler. What choice does he have? He's at the point where he is going to make or break based on a select few who support him and/or fund him. He has no shame.
And there is no one there. Have you looked? Absolutely no one except a handful - and I somehow doubt those few are giving him money. It's pretty grim. I think between the lines - at the very time in his life when he likely would be having trouble securing a job anyway his donation stream is drying up. He thinks - or is saying he thinks - it has to do with all the internet chatter about him - but he's kidding himself: his begging has just caught up with him.

Bottom line he has to stop living outside of his means. No more fancy cars.
I tried to signup for the forum...again...and was denied. But guess what? I got a copy of the latest Paracast BeggingLetter. No shame. None.
Why is he blocking you? Do you have a clue? Is it your e-mail address triggering the block - you could change that.
 
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