Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

Monkelus

Novice
Hi all, thought I better say ‘hi’. I was one of the first round of donators to Gene 12 years ago, back when it really seemed like an emergency. Now my morbid fascination with his behaviour has brought me here.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Hi all, thought I better say ‘hi’. I was one of the first round of donators to Gene 12 years ago, back when it really seemed like an emergency. Now my morbid fascination with his behaviour has brought me here.
Welcome aboard. :Thumbsup:
 

Brian

Adept
BTW do you have any idea why his panhandling ratcheted up so many notches since the fall? It seems to have been non-stop since last summer and that's new. He usually always allowed 'decent intervals' between appeals. Gone are those days. Something changed. People leaving off posting.....? Leaving the Paracast Forums? I know that's why I decided to quit there last summer (plus the problems with Mike, the admin guy who was a massive jerk).

Maybe he is over-milking the dying cow? I dunno. I see he has Greg Bishop on for the umpteenth time, like Greg but his association with Paracast and Gene Steinberg bears no fruit for him. I posted this plea on his website. Bet it gets moderated out.

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Greg – you have free will but PLEASE rethink your commitment to Gene Steinberg. All the best posters like myself have left due to Gene’s constant begging, whining and misuse of the Paracast forum for personal, financial gain. Gone is Chris O’Brien, Goggs Mackay, J. Randall Murphy, Burnt State, Walter Boseley, mike the Madman admin, Waller…heck, you haven’t been seen on the forum posting as ‘spacebrother’ since the end of January!

Don’t be too closely associated with the doomed, sinking Paracast ship.

Thank You for listening,

Brian
Hi! I'm Brian
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Hi all, thought I better say ‘hi’. I was one of the first round of donators to Gene 12 years ago, back when it really seemed like an emergency. Now my morbid fascination with his behaviour has brought me here.

Hi, welcome to AE...:happy8:
 

Brian

Adept
Why is he blocking you? Do you have a clue? Is it your e-mail address triggering the block - you could change that.

nivek brought up an IP question that I hadn't considered. Gene Steinberg will take your IP address and for no reason whatsoever, add it to the Stop Forum Spam which not only blocks registration attemtps but this crap service also is used by hundreds of oter forums.

He knows this.
 

Brian

Adept
Latest in from Begging Gene Steinberg re: Bob Watson and moderation.

"In the meantime, forum admin Bob Watson, someone also singled out for attacks, has decided to take a breather due to a family matter. A new moderator will be joining us shortly."

Under Online Attacks!

A breather? Who's up next? Creepy Green Light? lol
 

Brian

Adept
Thomas R Morrison tearing the mickey out of Gene Steinberg and Goggs Mackay

May 27, 2018 — Dr. Jack Hunter with Goggs Mackay

Note how he zeroes in on the fact that the standard for paranormal gold is all alone inside the heads of Steinberg and his clown-prince Mackay. He also notes the Paracast theme of belittling those who have differing views and doing so in a way they have no retort.

Which is what scum does.

To wit: "So The Paracast alienates >95% of the millions of potential audience members by routinely deriding this clearly superior, consummately logical explanation. That's a steep price to pay for a rigid ideological bias that flies in the face of fact and reason."

"The Paracast has become an echo chamber for the extremely fringe “co-creation hypothesis” crowd within the ufology community. Everyone on this episode shared the same perspective, and hearing a group of people agreeing with each other isn’t interesting. And hearing Gene lavish praise upon anyone and everyone who blindly adheres to the co-creation hypothesis/mythology is starting to give me indigestion. Likewise, hearing everyone on this show agree that ETH proponents are shallow, mouth-breathing religious fanatics, is becoming genuinely intolerable."

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Steinberg bleats: "We have always presented a variety of views about UFOs"

Gene, the bias against the ETH on this show is so thick that you could cut it with a knife.
 

Ottilie

Adept
BTW do you have any idea why his panhandling ratcheted up so many notches since the fall? It seems to have been non-stop since last summer and that's new. He usually always allowed 'decent intervals' between appeals. Gone are those days. Something changed.

Quoting myself - I know. :rolleyes: But I got some insight from a post on The UFO Trails blog. Evidently Gene was in a lawsuit in the fall, and lost - so he owes about $2,500 from that legal wrangle (maybe a landlord suing for past rent). I think it must be that the begging for donations no longer is working, no longer covering his bases. Sad story.
 

Monkelus

Novice
The saddest thing is that if he’d just at been upfront about his situation, rather than coming up with weird convoluted tales, he might be getting more sympathy.

It’s horrible to think, but I’ve always had a theory that he was planning for some kind of inheritance from Mosley that never came.
 
The saddest thing is that if he’d just at been upfront about his situation, rather than coming up with weird convoluted tales, he might be getting more sympathy.

It’s horrible to think, but I’ve always had a theory that he was planning for some kind of inheritance from Mosley that never came.

i wonder if he planned this with paracast all along as a cash cow to support him
when it didn't work out the way he wanted he got desperate
started begging like a poor sap
 

goblin

Noble
i wonder if he planned this with paracast all along as a cash cow to support him
when it didn't work out the way he wanted he got desperate
started begging like a poor sap

Hmmm. Only my opinions -

There are (imho) troubling reports going back to at least 2006 of Gene being comfortable asking near-strangers for hundreds of dollars. I believe he claims that he was soliciting funds at the time to support his sister-in-law's lawsuit but, to me in light of how things have gone subsequently that seems unlikely. He seems to have no governor installed in him to regulate his shameless begging. I keep wondering if his begging is not compulsive behavior.

Pre the 2008 housing bubble crash I think a lot of people likely had more money to donate to enterprises such as the Paracast, and there was just more spending going on in general. Also, a lot of professional / semi-professional talent had yet to discover podcasting. The Paracast was there early on and I will bet things looked pretty rosy to Gene. Then you had the economic meltdown, and Biedny bailing out, but hey, Gene could still sell ads and they got picked up by GCN I believe. Eventually you had the podcast field become way more crowded and while I imagine the Paracast's audience grew, it never became anything like a phenomenon. It is however a great way for Gene to have a ready supply of potential donors to his never-ending cause.

Chris O'Brien made some statement about Gene "living beyond his means" and "Gene's wife having him by the short hairs" in comments at the UFO Trail blog. Biedny referred to Gene eating every meal out and buying to-go coffee instead of brewing it, and then there was the infamous Kia lease. And personally I doubt that Gene's podcasts with their online presences pay for themselves. Maybe some months? And also at the UFO Trail people turned up several past financial judgments against the Steinbergs, and evictions.

I don't know when Gene last had a 'real' job; Jeff Ritzmann says Gene told him he was fired from a job for... asking a co-worker for money. We can believe all this or not (I think the court record stuff you can't argue with, but interpretations of those could vary, and I suppose further activity could've followed that we are not seeing). I feel it all paints a picture of a guy who has had serious money trouble for a very long time. More concerning to me is my overall impression that Gene is dishonest, unethical and doesn't care for anyone but himself. Of course to hear Gene, he is the perpetual victim, fighting the good fight, and anyone pointing out problems with his claims or behaviors is just an obsessed hater who is inexplicably trying to "destroy Gene" by preventing him from "earning a living". Does anyone think that even the slightest outside effort needs to be expended at all to keep this man from earning a living? If your fear is that Gene might actually earn any money, trust me, that worry will take care of itself with no help from you.
 

goblin

Noble
And sorry for one more comment but, I would normally feel weird discussing someone like this but, Gene has in effect made his affairs public. And it's gone on so long it's hard not to marvel at it and comment on it, if one is paying attention. But think of other podcast hosts for example, I have no clue what their personal circumstances might be because they aren't always telling everyone. I understand anyone could need help sometime, but this situation and Gene seem rare.
 

bishop

Novice
New poster/longtime Gene observer here. If you haven't seen it, that twitter feed that tracks Gene's emails just posted a screenshot: Gene's getting evicted again! The hearing is set for June 6.

SchemeGeneRC on Twitter

Some of the tweeters who reply are a little nuts, but it's a good way to track the madness.

The apartments he's getting kicked from look pretty nice. Certainly nicer than a Motel 6. Wonder if he lied to the managers about his previous evictions to get in a place this nice. Apartments in Gilbert AZ | Desert Mirage
 
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