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Gambeir

Celestial
No . I would say if you were an astronaut and you travelled billions of light years to another galaxy far far away and you died. You would end up back here again. Something else controls it.

Totally agree with that August.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
Not sure who pulls the strings really. But with reincarnation I am not so sure we have a choice as to what happens to us when we do reincarnate. Does it have a flow or is it just random ?

I believe that what you do here and now has profound effects on the subsequent life to come, providing you do get back home for a recycle, as I've been told ~but don't know~ that if you misbehave badly then you could just be disassembled and cast in to the Universe as bits which will never reassemble again.
 

August

Metanoia
I believe that what you do here and now has profound effects on the subsequent life to come, providing you do get back home for a recycle, as I've been told ~but don't know~ that if you misbehave badly then you could just be disassembled and cast in to the Universe as bits which will never reassemble again.

Well I am stuffed then !!
 

Gambeir

Celestial
Well I am stuffed then !!

Umm...I seriously doubt that. People who've done things because they could, and to fulfill their own selfish desires are what we are talking about. Everyone is linked to each other because we all come from the same house, the same family, so there's some sort of measuring which takes place but you're not held to account because you were deceived and killed other people unless those acts were done willfully: knowing what you're doing is wrong is a great deal different than doing something which you also know might be wrong but feel you have no choice about: Soldiers in wartime comes to mind.
 

Brian

Adept
Not sure who pulls the strings really. But with reincarnation I am not so sure we have a choice as to what happens to us when we do reincarnate. Does it have a flow or is it just random ?

I don't know. I am still trying to figure out how Jesus reincarnated when He was the One who claimed there is no past or future. Hm.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
I don't know. I am still trying to figure out how Jesus reincarnated when He was the One who claimed there is no past or future. Hm.

Considering the source, with his divine knowledge base and all, I'd say that he was speaking above the intellects he was addressing, but then what do I know, so anyways I feel Christ would have been making a reference to time and space as frames of time, like an endless motion picture each moment in time is frozen except for the moment we are in right this second. Understand?

So Christ would have been trying to get people to focus on the present, the moment they are in right now, and to not focus on the past or the future: One is already frozen in time, the past, and the other is unmade and non~existing. The present moment, the actions and present thoughts are what creates the future.

The hypothesis of Time Frame Dragging dictates that the past can be returned to like reversing a motion picture. The debate is whether or not once you get to a past time if you can then step off the movie script and start another film from that point once more. This idea about moments of time being frozen in the past and in the future is what time travel is
all about. Might indicate Christ was a time traveler which would hardly be a surprise given the claim of whom he was.
 

August

Metanoia
I don't know. I am still trying to figure out how Jesus reincarnated when He was the One who claimed there is no past or future. Hm.

Yes that a very interesting thought Brian. There are lots of anomalies like that one. Is there a beginning and is there an end and where does that fit into reincarnation ? Does everything eventually end or is it a perpetual non ending saga of birth and rebirth ad infinitum ? Didn't the Christian religion believe in reincarnation until it was banned by the church ? Yes here it is.


The Ban of Reincarnation
Reincarnation is the belief in rebirth; that human beings are reborn again in a new body and have a history of past lives. It holds that the essence of the living being can survive death and becomes reborn in a new set of circumstances. This essence is often referred to as the Spirit or Soul.

The early Christian church accepted the teaching of reincarnation, which was expounded by the Gnostics and by numerous church fathers, including Clement of Alexandria, the celebrated Origen (both 3rd century), and St. Jerome (5th century). Of the three, Origen was the greatest proponent of reincarnation among the early Christian teachers and theologians, and he had the greatest impact.

The first major controversy regarding Origen’s views erupted toward the end of the fourth century when he was condemned as a heretic, but the Church took no ecumenical action. Then, nearly 300 years after his death, in the sixth century, Justinian I (483-565 A.D.), a Byzantine emperor and theologian, attempted to wipe out paganism in 529 A.D. He passed damaging legislation against Jews and heretics and attempted to introduce some Christian concepts into the Justinian Code of the Roman law. At the suggestion of a deacon, who later become Pope Pelagius, Justinian condemned Origen and his teachings of reincarnation as a possible solution to doctrinal troubles among the Palestinian monks.

The Council’s decision was accepted without difficulty everywhere except by the Isochristes, a group of monks in the Grand Laura of Egypt. They refused to accept the Council’s condemnation of Origen because they maintained that in the resurrection all men would be the same as Christ.

At the Second Council of Constantinople (553 A.D.), known as the Fifth Ecumenical Council, the Byzantine emperor Justinian forced the Church to declare the teachings of reincarnation a heresy, and to remove reincarnation from Christian theology. As a result, all references to rebirth and reincarnation were removed in the Bible. For nearly 1,500 years, the teaching of reincarnation has been outlawed in the West. This ban continues to the present day. However, in the East, reincarnation has wide influence and acceptance among tens of millions and millions of people. Could they be all mistaken?
 

Area201

cold fusion
Dark Journalist's take on Robert F. Kennedy's assassination and moves towards a one world government.

These video segments are long (2-3 hours) and I usually listen to while driving longer distances. The key bit of info I learned here is there was a 15 year old student who took photos prior to, during, and after the RFK assassination. His camera was quickly confiscated by agents.

Now that by itself, is a totally reasonable action. However, he didn't get his rolls back, and only (approx) 20 of 30 photos were returned to him. That left about a dozen never returned or seen by public as evidence for assessment for the murder. He was told in 20 years he would get it back. That time came and the "courier" of his film got a flat tire, pulled over, and when he came back, poof! if was gone. Those missing photos must have had some damaging evidence on them to go to such lengths.

DJ's guess is that the film showed a 2nd shooter. He argues the location of bullet entrance wounds of RFK cannot come from Sirhan Sirhan given their witnessed positions.

Both JFK and RFK were deep state/CIA white-washed assassinations. These operations seem to show a blueprint of having a primary assassin or a fall guy plus a back-up plan in place as a second layer to guarantee a successful operation. However, today everyone would have phones out, recording everything and posting immediately on Reddit/FB/etc. so it would not be possible to implement such operations in the same way successfully today.

 
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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Dark Journalist's take on Robert F. Kennedy's assassination and moves towards a one world government.

These video segments are long (2-3 hours) and I usually listen to while driving longer distances. The key bit of info I learned here is there was a 15 year old student who took photos prior to, during, and after the RFK assassination. His camera was quickly confiscated by agents.

Now that by itself, is a totally reasonable action. However, he didn't get his rolls back, and only (approx) 20 of 30 photos were returned to him. That left about a dozen never returned or seen by public as evidence for assessment for the murder. He was told in 20 years he would get it back. That time came and the "courier" of his film got a flat tire, pulled over, and when he came back, poof! if was gone. Those missing photos must have had some damaging evidence on them to go to such lengths.

DJ's guess is that the film showed a 2nd shooter. He argues the location of bullet entrance wounds of RFK cannot come from Sirhan Sirhan given their witnessed positions.

Both JFK and RFK were deep state/CIA white-washed assassinations. These operations seem to show a blueprint of having a primary assassin or a fall guy plus a back-up plan in place as a second layer to guarantee a successful operation. However, today everyone would have phones out, recording everything and posting immediately on Reddit/FB/etc. so it would not be possible to implement such operations in the same way successfully today.


the only fact that two menbers of the same family were assasinated is suspicious enough
they likely tryed to fight american imperialism and got their asses handed to them
 

Area201

cold fusion
the only fact that two menbers of the same family were assasinated is suspicious enough
they likely tryed to fight american imperialism and got their asses handed to them

yes their murders reveal the tip of the iceberg of the underlying covert state pushing their imperialistic agenda

Right now the working blueprint stages I got for a one world government in their vision as pushed forward by a series of false flags adopted from the Nazi playbook, executed by key government figures and agencies, covert unacknowledged military projects, and some psychopaths, mainly to the benefit of select corporations (some a continuation of Nazi front operations or the Fourth Reicht according to Farrell) are:

1. communism (through 1990)
2. terrorism (2000s)
3. nations of concern (now happening)
4. asteroid impact (on deck)
5. alien threat (cued up final false flag)

 
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Area201

cold fusion
the first three sound plausible, the 2 last, dont

Well soviet communism was an obvious legitimate threat to liberty and sovereignty of nations. However the national security act can be abused or misused for gain of a small group(s) and individuals. And turns out, allowing for it's own type of global agenda influenced by various groups including the Nazis and their playbook, absorbed into the U.S. military after WW2. There are also several significant long term dire consequences that come up from these executed false flags.

Preceding National Security Act.

The Reichstag fire - believed to be a staged/False Flag

Nazis dressed up troops to stage some attack on them by Polish officers - Staged/False Flag

Pre-emptive "defensive" strike on the USSR.


The communist threat stage.

Cuba - Bay of Pigs invasion - failed Staged/False Flag

Kuwait - The False Nayirah Testimony/Kuwaiti oil being stolen by Iraq - Lie/False Flag

Vietnam - The Gulf of Tonkin Incident - Lie/False Flag


The "terrorist" stage.

1995 Oklahoma Bombing - suspected of being an inside job.

Nations of Concern or "Axis of Evil" - 9/11 staged attacks or at least aided to succeed/soft truther.

Iraq - non-existent WMDs - Lie/False Flag


Asteroids and staged Alien invasion stage.

If these are in fact real protocols, we wouldn't be familiar with the technology used to execute such false flags, and a secret space program. According to insiders, they are decades ahead of what we see in our peer reviewed science journals and available technology. Yes it doesn't sound plausible if we assume they only have current technology. That is a bad assumption to make.

My question is, isn't globalism and one world government inevitable as we discover technology to connect everyone?
 
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Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
My question is, isn't globalism and one world government inevitable as we discover technology to connect everyone?

One world government would be a good idea when it comes.

You do realize the first three were done by the nazis and had nothing to do with the US government.

I've yet to see any verifiable evidence of the other alleged false flags.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I've yet to see any verifiable evidence of the other alleged false flags.

And you won't in some cases because of the depth of the allegations, but this can be discussed in earnest regardless of the participants or lack of what you consider evidence...

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nivek

As Above So Below
My question is, isn't globalism and one world government inevitable as we discover technology to connect everyone?

I think it is inevitable and perhaps on many higher levels within governments there is a certain degree of one world unity but its still fragile and not all the players are present yet, kind of where the EU is at the moment...

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Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I think it is inevitable and perhaps on many higher levels within governments there is a certain degree of one world unity but its still fragile and not all the players are present yet, kind of where the EU is at the moment...

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When world peace finally happens we'll be able to have a one world government.......but not for many years if not centuries.
 
When world peace finally happens we'll be able to have a one world government.......but not for many years if not centuries.
There would probably be wars over which city would be the world capital. Humans fight about everything. Would you give your life to make Milwaukee the capital of planet Earth? How about Rome (The Vatican would love that).
 
I disagree with your assumption that first we must have world peace to have a world government. I instead see world government as a necessity because of constant war that may be making continued inhabitation of Earth nearly impossible. I can see the entire planet, as an example, coming together and combining all their military might to fight the USA, which has been at war the majority of its existence. The USA has long deemed itself the world's policeman. But the rest of the planet may decide that they are tired of that and combine to fight back.
 
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