BTW & FYI.. this is the last post I'm going to make of such length. Too damn much energy and time wasting on this.
You're making the totally unsupportable assumption that you know the top speed of these devices - you can't possibly know that Mach 40 or 50 is their top speed. More likely, that's the top speed that we could measure. There are lots of cases where these devices seem to simply vanish instantaneously, and that could simply mean that they moved too fast to see.
That's true enough. If they can defy gravity they should then be capable of FTL (faster than light speed) and that would be logical given the fact they appear to nullify gravity.
However, the fact that they appear to defy gravity still doesn't make them alien ships. It just makes them some alternative form of technology, and that's the real issue because if they aren't alien ships then that means one of two things: One, either physics we are using must be faulty or entirely wrong, or the other alternative is that it's missing or has been willfully neglectful in incorporating other ideas which might then unveil what is manifestly obvious, which is that very advanced gravity defying machines are present here in our own airspace and which are almost certain to be of human construction.
There's no theoretical limit to the upper velocity of a gravitational field propulsion system, and these devices exhibit all of the expected performance characteristics of that kind of propulsion mechanism. In fact gravitational field propulsion is the only propulsion principle in the canon of physics which permits, at least theoretically, superluminal speeds. No other physical mechanism can boast that claim, because matter and fields in all other contexts are limited by the speed of light.
Yes I agree; even the ARV was said to be FTL or super~luminal capable and that is supposed to be a human designed and built vehicle as well.
So, given the eerily consistent performance characteristic exhibited by the craft we've observed for the last 70+ years, they're using a gravitational field propulsion system, and that in turn means that they could be arriving here from another star system many light-years away, in an arbitrarily short span of time, with no time dilation effects. In principle, they could get here from another star in an hour, for example - the speed would only be limited to the field intensity capabilities of their technology.
Yes, I understand.
That's faulty logic. Our greatest interest in other worlds is finding life, and more specifically, finding intelligent life. If we could travel to any world in our galactic vicinity, and of 10,000 candidates we knew that one in particularly showed promise for being a habitable living world, then that's the one we'd visit for study.
It's not especially more faulty than your own logic. We cannot know the values of alien life forms. The simple fact that Einsteinian Physics cannot adequately explain a reasonable means to control or otherwise manipulate gravitational forces does not preclude the fact that others using alternative theories have succeeded, and in fact the historical evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of that proposal which is far more rational.
What's more believable: That aliens are visiting us, or that Boeing now has antigraviational vehicles? What's more believable; that the Nazi's who never abandoned unconventional thinking made breakthrough discoveries and which were then incorporated in to the kelptocracy of our now hijacked governments, or that aliens decided to check up on me by parking their ship over my house ....and just by chance huh? What are the astronomical odds of that happening?
Seriously, I am to believe that now that I'm so interesting that aliens now come from other Stars just to see where I live: is that what I'm supposed to think?
We're already finding warm Earth-like worlds orbiting other stars in our galactic vicinity via the Kepler Mission. So any civilization as technologically advanced as ours could do the same. And any civilization that's even more advanced than us - say, civilizations with warp field propulsion capabilities, would probably not only be capable of finding the earth, but also identifying the signatures of widespread biological processes in our atmosphere, and perhaps even the signature of artificial light on the side shadowed by the Sun. And they'd probably also notice the thousands of enormous EMP blasts produced every time we've detonated a nuclear warhead.
The fact that they are searching for Warm Earth Like Worlds should cause you to take pause and consider why, especially since according to you we are never getting off this mud ball since Einsteinian Physic's rules out any one elses ideas, and even this so called mass cancellation test might not work, and so why then bother if that's the case? Who cares and what's the point of knowing? Might as well be complete fiction for all it matters if that's the case.
When are you going to realize that the corporate dictators already have FTL ships and that the reason they are looking for other worlds isn't what you have assumed it was about.
Supposedly it was the detonation of nuclear weapons which evidently stands out in the matter, and apparently this has to do with effecting FTL (faster than Light speed) communications.
Well that shoots your theory out of the water, then. Because we have reports of these craft exhibiting the dramatic flight characteristics of a gravitational field propulsion system from that same time, and earlier (the Foo Fighters, for example). It takes time to develop a theory of operation, to run experiments with it, to manufacture prototypes, and to then produce working devices. Developing a field propulsion technology with the capabilities widely reported throughout the 40s would take decades, at a minimum. Out here in the public sector, we still haven't been able to move a grain of sand in a lab setting using gravitational field technology. In fact we haven't even been able to envision a feasible technological approach to that kind of technology. So the idea that anyone on Earth had fully functioning craft using this form of propulsion 70 years ago is inconceivable.
Foo Fighters are very interesting but cannot be assumed to be alien vehicles. They are a very interesting topic in their own right.
The most likely explanations for Foo Fighters lies with only two possible explanations: German inventiveness, and then again with the astrophysics of our own star's predilection's, annoying I know, but in reality the cause for World War II is most likely a driven need to create technology spurred on by sighting of so~called foo fighters.
Almost certainly most foo fighters were natural phenomena and can be explained as invading plasmoids. The observed phenomena may have lead the Nazi Scientist's to create an artificial sort of electric bolide to mimic these in yet another crack pot scheme for air defense. Evidently not entirely unsuccessfully.
So you see, one hypotheses for consideration with foo fighers has to do with the causation of the last Global War being an engineered war specifically created as means to develop technology, and so this global war is really a story about lost civilizations and lost and misunderstood data which forecast dramatic earth changes. This misunderstood data was encoded in religious artifacts, and the data presumably predicts dramatic earth changes consequent from our own Star's pathway around the Galactic Core. These are things we now know are true and accurate.
It's a curious fact of history that the very first thing Adolf Hitler did after the fall of France was to board his armored train and visit the tiny village of Hendaye to view the stone monument called the Cross of Hendaye. Never mind what the imbeciles on Wikipedia say about this monument, in reality it forecasts a galactic crossing which signifies earth changes. The only possible conclusion is that Hitler understood what this monument represented and so he must have understood his role was supposedly about a greater plan of human survival, or so he must have believed. This is one example of record which we know of that strongly support the idea that the last global war was engineered specifically for the purposes of putting entire nation states in the business of creating technology.
Things which we now recognize as happening were evidently forecast by data encoded in religious artifacts, and which seem to have been encoded in this form because it is the most likely form to survive for future generations, such is the power of religious programming. Evidently some sort of comprehension of this was understood by some scholars.
So presumably a fractured history survived from the last global wide disaster. An event which may have taken place several 20 or so thousands of years ago and which wasn't fully comprehended until much later by more contemporary researchers and scientists of various fields.
However, due to the religious nature of the surviving data it was realized much earlier, long before the Second Global War, that a series of mistakes and misunderstanding had obscured the encoded time line, but not the understanding of what that time line foretold, which is one of a sort of Galactic Armageddon. One which is forecast to happen as a matter of our Star's own predilections for orbiting about the Galactic Core, whilst also weaving about in great orbitals that take it and our earth and every other planet far outside of the energy forces which lie in the galactic plane.
Far from what has been claimed by some, these weaving orbits take many thousands of years, and no surviving complete history of one cycle exists, but it is known that these orbits have two different results depending on which way our solar system is heading.
On the left is a depiction of the Solar Systems movements about and through the galactic plane of energy. On the right is a depiction of the major arms of the Milky Way Galaxy, which is our galaxy.
The rate and intensity of cosmic rays which reach our solar system depend exclusively on the state of the Heliosphere of our Sun which is directly effected by it's relationship spacial to the galactic plane. As the Sun moves through the galactic plane, the number and intensity of high energy particles that penetrate the Suns Heliosphere increases because the interstellar Medium (ISM) becomes denser.
According to Alexey N. Dmitriev whose study of the plasma density on the edges of the solar system showed that beginning int the 1960's the plasma around the outer edges of our solar system was around 10 astronomical units, but by the the middle of the 1990s it became 100 astronomical units.
So what the message was actually about is what we are being told is man made global warming. However, it is apparent that long ago these events were forecast for our time, but there was a problem because a great error had occurred by the holy record keepers, they had screwed up the dating by fiddling with dating, and so rather suddenly it was realized that disaster was much closer than previously thought. This realization caused a crash course program to develop what appears to be needed survival technology for the next presumed Galactic Armageddon.
That's absurd. General relativity (GR) has not only described all known gravitational phenomena to extremely high precision (to within the limits of even modern observational acuity), but it also predicted a raft of entirely new and unexpected phenomena, like gravitational waves, which have recently been detected for the first time - a century after they were first predicted. General relativity's enormous theoretical and observational utility is only matched by quantum field theory (QFT). And GR has done this with a far more elegant theoretical framework than QFT. So it's the greatest scientific achievement in the history of physics, indisputably.
The only thing that's absurd is when loyalty to a petrified opinion blinds one to the reality of observed truths.
This is exactly wrong: general relativity has provided the only viable explanation for the performance characteristics of the AAV phenomenon. The only remaining difficulty is a technological one, not a theoretical one. GR explicitly describes how these craft are propelling themselves - we just can't emulate it yet.
The fact that you can explain something doesn't mean it's correct. Hasn't it occurred to you that all criminals will tell you the way it works without including their own participation? Don't you realize that's why you are being told this is how it works, and this is the math that proves it's right, and for this very same reason?
If you weren't so pig headed and blind and more willing to take into account the mistaken assumptions of GR then possibly you might actually be able to get where observed phenomena already is.
What "grand failure?" In every applicable regime, GR has triumphed. In fact, in every testable scenario, we still haven't been able to find even a tiny deviation from its predictions.
This is the problem you don't see a failure. You see success where everyone else around you see's disaster. It isn't a success if you can claim to know and understand gravity but yet again cannot hope to clue us in on how to control it without having some sort of fission like energy source. That's not a success. It's bullshit is what it is in my opinion.
It's the same kind of BS story every liar has to tell.
. Good Lord, so I construct the perfect crime and even though no one believes me, and everyone thinks I did the crime, and yet still no detective can prove I'm guilty with hard evidence, and so on that basis then I must be assumed innocent? So now is that how things work in science these days? Describing something so as to make if fit a story line is known as fabrication.
Try reversing your reasoning here Morrison. Pretend for a moment that you're a sort of criminal whose a member of an elite club, and your job is to construct an iconic platform of supposed scientific reasoning which will be used to explain gravity and hence everything else, but which no conceivable device known will be available to test this theory for several hundred years, because the energy requirements rule that possible refutation out.
Suppose also that this theory must be able to explain other phenomena with enough creativity so as to be able to obfuscate other possible explanations such that it still remains a valid theory based on mathematical proofs.
Now do you think that if you had people like say Werner von braun at your disposal you might be able to do that? I think that if I had Albert Einstein, Paul Dirac, and few others I might be able to construct just such probable story line.
I see that you still haven't looked at that Clifford Will review paper that I've cited here on multiple occasions. All non-metric theories of gravitation have been ruled out. Spacetime is a manifold and distortions in that manifold produce gravitational accelerations. The theory and the observations affirm that model perfectly and in concert. To deny it is an expression of ignorance.
Why would I read something which according to you proves that gravity control is hopelessly far away and we are all just stuck forever with your failed science model?
Meanwhile overhead the USAF gives me and everyone else on the planet the flying finger of fate courtesy of Boeing and the Billionaires Boys club.
Telsa predicted none of the gravitational phenomena that we know about today – Einstein’s theory did. And the principle of the atomic bomb is founded on his famous equation E = mc^2, so he may not have thought it feasible at first (he wasn’t a nuclear physicist, after all), but it couldn’t have been built without his equation. Same goes for nuclear power plants, the LIGO facilities around the world, the gravitational lensing effects that astronomers now use routinely, the Global Positioning System, and the Large Hadron Collider – all of our greatest accomplishments today are due in large part to Einstein’s theories of relativity, and we still haven’t fully exploited the power of his theories. So your cynicism about his work is totally unfounded.
Remind me of that cynicism next time I turn the lights on huh? Nobody knows what Telsa may have formulated since all his papers were stolen or classified under national security right? So probably a reason for that I'd imagine.
That’s why the huge body of observational and experimental confirmation of his theoretical work is so central to this argument.
It's only central because you're blind to any other possible explanations and won't hear of any other. Not because others wouldn't like to hear them.
Gravitation is not magnetism, we know this. Gravitation is a rank-2 tensor field, magnetism is a rank-1 field. So magnetism cannot model gravitation; it’s insufficiently complex, and the magnitude of the gravitational field is given correctly by the mass-energy content of a physical body, not the strength of its magnetic field. If gravity were simply a form of magnetism, diamagnetic materials like bismuth would fall away from the Earth into space. So this notion makes no sense.
Oh brother, just because you've invented some excuse for why it can't be, doesn't mean it isn't actually so? OK? Liars invent stories to make their own case seem innocent, and evidently physicists have been taking notes how to prove they too are right. Who knew that prison college courses could result in such a combination?
Did I say that magnetism was gravity or did I say gravity was matter held together by magnetism and then put in orbital planes of inertial force? I think it was the later of the two.
In any event, again another demonstration on your part what's wrong with the logic, because my good man magnetic forces are not like gravitational fields which are static. OK? Think about it.
