Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

nivek

As Above So Below
Hey everyone I'm the guy who was IP banned from the paracast forum for asking about Patreon. I just wanted to let you all know that I was not the person who is currently taking up the issue in there right now. My guess is someone saw my tweet about it and decided to run with it.

I came about this issue somewhat randomly after I was accidentally tagged in a tweet about it months ago. While I was familiar with Gene and even receive his years of emails, I sort of just assumed it was a poor dude trying to get by in a screwed up world. Once I was tagged however, it became clear something more nefarious was going on and I was full in on this situation.

I take scam artists seriously and Gene appears to have been involved, at least party to, a dangerous scheme. The damage conmen like Gene and his BIL do is dangerous and impacts far beyond someone's bank account. My grandmother was a victim of a person selling fake securities and lost literally $200,000 in the early 1990s. While the person was caught and charged she never recouped the losses and I truly believe it shortened her life considerably.

I like this forum and will probably stick around, hopefully meet some people that will help me make sense of some anomalous stuff that I've experienced. Keep digging and trust me, shedding light on people like Gene is not trolling — it's a damn public service.

That happens at paracast, I'm not surprised someone ran with the name and played like it was you...There's a troll who does this, not here though as I've got him pegged but he's done that on paracast and other forums...

Welcome to AE, please do stick around, we've got a good place here with great members...

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GhostofBiedny

Celestial
That happens at paracast, I'm not surprised someone ran with the name and played like it was you...There's a troll who does this, not here though as I've got him pegged but he's done that on paracast and other forums...

Welcome to AE, please do stick around, we've got a good place here with great members...

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Well it is not necessarily anything sinister. The way Geney has been know to harass people I think some people are scared to speak up using their regular names (even if they are pseudonyms). The guy in that case wasn't impersonating the other guy - he actually listed a different name, the only similarity was that they were from the same area and asking similar questions. It is not even that great a fluke.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
So friends, I see there is a serious lack of Gene and family pics on this site. Let me give you what I have collected. Little spoiler alert: That hair is fake AF and he totes looks like a ballsack. Since he's rocking an OG iPhone I suspect these are 10 years ago or so.View attachment 3586View attachment 3587View attachment 3588View attachment 3589View attachment 3590

Thanks for posting the pics, that's awesome...I heard there's pics of him in a casino he deleted from Facebook, would be great if someone found those and posted them here, almost like icing on the cake...lol

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nivek

As Above So Below
Well it is not necessarily anything sinister. The way Geney has been know to harass people I think some people are scared to speak up using their regular names (even if they are pseudonyms). The guy in that case wasn't impersonating the other guy - he actually listed a different name, the only similarity was that they were from the same area and asking similar questions. It is not even that great a fluke.

That's true, first thing I thought was waller...

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Standingstones

Celestial
Thanks for posting the pics, that's awesome...I heard there's pics of him in a casino he deleted from Facebook, would be great if someone found those and posted them here, almost like icing on the cake...lol

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Those photos of Steinberg at the casino would be his ultimate downfall.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Thanks for posting the pics, that's awesome...I heard there's pics of him in a casino he deleted from Facebook, would be great if someone found those and posted them here, almost like icing on the cake...lol

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these pictures would end paracast forever
 
Yeah, well they dug up somebody. It does look as if these are being read over there.

True GS does not appear to be a great beauty to behold but honestly - if all of a sudden the lights went on and we could all see each other in vivid 4K we'd all be put off our feed a while. Eeeeee. I'm pretty sure my phone wouldn't be ringing off the hook with modeling contract offers. :)

Better to stick to the genuine thievery and conniving - that's a whole lot more interesting.
Hey! I am a pretty spiffy looking old fart. Middle aged divorcees chat me up all the time until I flash my wedding ring. LOL I recently went to a gathering of people my age and thought "Who are all these old people?" My therapist and I are working on my denial of reality......By the way, I am 7 years younger than Gene which seems to amount to a gigantic generational shift. I was listening to Jimi Hendrix as a kid and he was listening to Pat Boone. DSC09721.JPG
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
True to form Gene is starting to turn on the new poster asking about Patreon and we have the expected excuse why he won't be joining.

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Of course being the pompous, patronising and entitled prick that he is, he has to continue to be rude. You can also see the wheels of paranoia turning in his head.

"How dare this guy suggest anything to me other than sending me money! I knew Jim Mosely. Only a hater would have the nerve to speak to me like this knowing the pivotal role I've played in knowing various people in Ufology 50 years ago. I won't tolerate this kind of harassment."

Very shortly this guy will be banned too. His posts will be deleted and Gene will have posted that "another troll" has been banned or "spammed" as he likes to say. For someone in alleged "dire straits" he takes undue pleasure in persecuting others that are simply trying to help.

He is his own worst enemy. No wonder nobody is on the forum anymore.

There was a time I felt sorry for him but not any more. He is the agent of his own demise. If there is a sword of Damocles hanging over him all he does is gnaw on the rope.
 
Gene, you ignorant slut. Lots of people are making plenty of money on Patreon. Some of your competitors are kicking your ass. You know, though, that you'd never get on there and even if you did, peanuts would be what you got.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
Gene, you ignorant slut. Lots of people are making plenty of money on Patreon. Some of your competitors are kicking your ass. You know, though, that you'd never get on there and even if you did, peanuts would be what you got.


Problem is that people who make money on Patreon have to work hard and they have to put out work that people want to see or hear. Gene wants to put in zero effort in and make money - so he is right in the sense that he will never make money there.

As someone else said he also wants zero transparency about his monetary situation which I think is an even bigger reason why he will never use Patreon. It might hinder his scams and might lead to more questions about what he is doing with the money he is getting.

Even if Gene was somehow raking in 10K a month you can bet that those begging letters would still be going out and he would still be getting evicted every 5 minutes.
 

erickson

Honorable
I have to agree with Berman's legal analysis - but although my name is listed with a state bar, I don't practice in Arizona and have not done civil law in a very long time. So my opinion is just that.

I have done my part to bring some of the public records to light so I hope I would be included in any suit. In any event, except for the time that it takes, a suit by Gene would be very interesting. The discovery process would allow us to trace Gene's history in detail. If it weren't such a sad story, I would love to depose him. Would it show that we have deliberately created a false spin or reveal more about what he has claimed over the years?

In any event, as I have written elsewhere, a court is not the best place to seek emotional satisfaction and I can't believe that any attorney who would take his case.

I disagree with Steve about Patreon, however. At one time I thought the model would serve Gene much better than writing about a perpetual crisis. Patreon discourages words like “donation” or “need," which create a one-way transaction, and wants its creators to build a mutually beneficial relationship with the patrons. Given the way that Gene has burned through his credibility and character, I cannot imagine it would work for him or offer something that the Paracast + does not.

Gene has shown no interest in acknowledging his history and has repeatedly disregarded whatever advise has been offered. He would have to do far more for Patreon to work for him.
 

SilentRunning

Honorable
. The discovery process would allow us to trace Gene's history in detail. If it weren't such a sad story, I would love to depose him.


I WOULD TRANSCRIBE THAT DEPOSITION FOR FREE JUST TO HEAR HIM SQUIRM UNDER DEPO CROSS.

But seriously, y'all, discovery would dig up EVERYTHING. If there's anything at all left to hide, discovery would bring it all to light. Every last bit of it. I'm literally gobsmacked and salivating at the thought.
 
I hope the dude writes back and says it's none of his business. Gene needs to be put in his place and I hope Steve is a real attorney. I've wanted one to lay the smackdown on him hard.
 

goblin

Noble
I WOULD TRANSCRIBE THAT DEPOSITION FOR FREE JUST TO HEAR HIM SQUIRM UNDER DEPO CROSS.

But seriously, y'all, discovery would dig up EVERYTHING. If there's anything at all left to hide, discovery would bring it all to light. Every last bit of it. I'm literally gobsmacked and salivating at the thought.

And I'm sorry but I have to point out once more... in the same post, Gene whined about people "digging up public records", and then patronizingly tells the poster "have you ever heard of defamation? Look it up sometime".

Sure Gene. What you want is to be involved in One More Lawsuit. Generate MORE of those public records you're so fond of, and that have painted such a great picture of you.

You're the smart one Gene. Tell us more about defamation, please.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
And I'm sorry but I have to point out once more... in the same post, Gene whined about people "digging up public records", and then patronizingly tells the poster "have you ever heard of defamation? Look it up sometime".

Sure Gene. What you want is to be involved in One More Lawsuit. Generate MORE of those public records you're so fond of, and that have painted such a great picture of you.

You're the smart one Gene. Tell us more about defamation, please.

Not only that but he also shuts down most questions regarding his financial and work situation yet he expects the lawyer guy (assuming he is a lawyer) to explain why his license is in a different place.

When anyone asks less specific information of Gene he always says "it's none of your business". He has no sense of irony.
 
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