Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums
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Standingstones
Celestial
What? No Lifetime Memberships Offer??
Double Nought Spy
Celestial
I'm pretty sure five years covers the lifetime of the show, website, whatever.
NotSteveySteveySteve
Adept
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
I got the same email. Another nail for the barn door after the horse already ran away
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
I sense that we will soon receive a new tale of woe in the adventures of Supergrift (aka Schemey Steinberg).
Perhaps we will see some new villains, - a hotel maid with a dark past who simply refuses to do as Schemey orders, a mechanic who refuses to do checks on the Griftmobile for free, a hotel clerk who refuses to accept late payment because she is a "hater".
Perhaps due to popular demand old villains like Supergrift's arch nemesis - "The Constable" will return with all new non-storylines. For example, John Strongarm, a former apartment constable goes deep undercover to join the Motel staff and reveal our hero's secret identity - will he succeed?
Maybe the "online haters" will carry out crimes against humanity like sending flowers or chocolates to some of those supervillains who are trying to keep our hero down. We know those haters have no mercy and will do anything no matter how evil to try to hurt our hero. They might even help an old lady cross the street!
One thing is for sure, there will be new unexpected calamities like suddenly having to pay the motel bill, Uber driving problems, having to pay for groceries, carrying shopping home on the bus, forum rebranding problems - the possibilities are endless.
Stay tuned for the next mediocre installment of Supergrift.
Perhaps we will see some new villains, - a hotel maid with a dark past who simply refuses to do as Schemey orders, a mechanic who refuses to do checks on the Griftmobile for free, a hotel clerk who refuses to accept late payment because she is a "hater".
Perhaps due to popular demand old villains like Supergrift's arch nemesis - "The Constable" will return with all new non-storylines. For example, John Strongarm, a former apartment constable goes deep undercover to join the Motel staff and reveal our hero's secret identity - will he succeed?
Maybe the "online haters" will carry out crimes against humanity like sending flowers or chocolates to some of those supervillains who are trying to keep our hero down. We know those haters have no mercy and will do anything no matter how evil to try to hurt our hero. They might even help an old lady cross the street!
One thing is for sure, there will be new unexpected calamities like suddenly having to pay the motel bill, Uber driving problems, having to pay for groceries, carrying shopping home on the bus, forum rebranding problems - the possibilities are endless.
Stay tuned for the next mediocre installment of Supergrift.
Standingstones
Celestial
Steinberg is really pushing hard to sell that 5 year Paracast+ subscription. I see it on his Facebook page now. I have my doubts that there is a long line to sign up for that fiasco.
Beyond The Star Gate
Honorable
With Gene's well known history of honoring all his contractual agreements with rental agencies, I would not hold my breath for a 5 year contract to be honored. I suppose Gene could scrape another 5 years out of the Paracast and could get more subscriptions if he includes a free subscription to the Vampires R Us catalog. Maybe he could create a MEN OF THE PARACAST calendar for 2019 with monthly photos of Gene, Kendall, Tim Beckley, Tim Moseley and other giants of ufology. I am waiting for Gene to interview Lydia, the Tattooed Lady and Casper the Ghost.
Standingstones
Celestial
I hate to think that those people mentioned are “Giants of Ufology”!!
Wade
Stare..... They are always staring
I myself think he's fine (somebody mentioned he's got a $3000 SS check but I think that would be a likely amount if both get and his wife were drawing a check)
The point is I think the consensus is Gene doesn't want to spend his own important $$ when someone has money of their own to use if they can be talked into giving it up
The point is I think the consensus is Gene doesn't want to spend his own important $$ when someone has money of their own to use if they can be talked into giving it up
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
Steinberg is a pathological liar so it is hard to know what part of what he says is true and what is false.
If you are truly interested in knowing more I would suggest you read the articles written by Jack Brewer on the UFOtrail.
The UFO Trail: Steinberg Bankruptcy Failed to Slow Claims of Cash Crisis
The UFO Trail: Gene Steinberg Personal 'Emergency' Cash Solicitations Span Years, Hundreds of Emails
The UFO Trail: Updates on Paracast Host Gene Steinberg 'Emergency' Cash Solicitations
The UFO Trail: Caveat Emptor: A Paracast Saga of Discrepancies, Omissions and Unpaid Restitution
The final one also includes some useful interjection from the original paracast cohost, David Biedny in the comments (who raised the alarm about Steinberg's begging and luxury lifestyle just after he left).
Once you have read these articles I think it will put you in a better position to understand what Gene is like.
Oh, and I wouldn't bother trying to mention this on the Parasite forums. Gene will ban you as a troll. You were already skating on thin ice by questioning his deleting of threads.
goblin
Noble
I personally think he does not have much money, but the whole thing is rather puzzling. I can only give my opinions and impressions:
His bankruptcy filing from 2016 reveals he reported income (for himself and spouse I believe) then just shy, iirc, of $2,800/month. Most of that was Social Security, so would not be taxed.
I think the assumption most spectators of Gene make is that he was reporting something like his revenue from podcasting et al in that declared monthly income, but not including the donations he receives. The donations dollars are assumed to be variable.
The bankruptcy DID include a lot of loans, including at least one sizable personal loan, suggesting to me Gene tends to burn through cash as fast as he lays his hands on it. If I'm not mistaken he's freely admitted to entering into deals such as expensive car leases due to his bad credit, and him wanting a better car to drive.
Many times though if one reads his cash appeal emails carefully, it seems clear he is hoarding some cash while putting off bills and begging for cash to pay other expenses. For example he'll say he must have $700 to pay his car insurance by 5 p.m. on a particular Friday afternoon, then on Monday morning note in passing that he managed to pay the car insurance. And he's made references to a "cash reserve" before in those emails.
I believe that right now he is trying to save up to be able to afford a new apartment, so I don't think that he is 100% broke. There seems to be something pathological underlying the begging and some of the other self-destructive behavior, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's hoarded more than he is letting on. Still, hard for me to believe he'd spend months in a motel room if he had better options.
As an observer from a distance of Gene, my impression has been he tries to avoid paying for anything until he absolutely has to pay for it. Nothing wrong with that necessarily, except I think he pushes it and it winds up getting him into trouble - for example, serial evictions from apartments. Also - again just my impression - he doesn't seem good at budgeting, which you need to be in order to play that kind of "pay late" game successfully. It seems to gall him to have to pay for the necessary routine expenses of life. And you can pretty much count on him making things sound worse than they are in the begging emails. He has to make them sound like a desperate appeal, with some little ray of hope for the future if you'll help him past the rough patch.
Wade
Stare..... They are always staring
Not to step on his feet but wwkirk was/is a member of that forum but apparently hitched up over the weekend with us.
I haven't listened or posted on the show in a looking time but wwkirk was the unofficial first poster on Paracast show reviews. I think there were a couple of times I posted first and I always felt guilty about it, like I broke a unwritten law
I haven't listened or posted on the show in a looking time but wwkirk was the unofficial first poster on Paracast show reviews. I think there were a couple of times I posted first and I always felt guilty about it, like I broke a unwritten law
Standingstones
Celestial
Steinberg’s idea of saving up for an apartment means that he needs money for one months rent and security deposit. He will stiff the manager for a few months after that and wait until the sheriff arrives to toss him out on the street.
It also looks like Steinberg and Murphy are getting some negative feedback about their Vampire show. It’s pretty bad when new posters are complaining about the quality of recent shows.
I did see a complaint about the 5 year membership cost. Evidently $100 is way too much for the great after show talks. Who could have imagined that!
It also looks like Steinberg and Murphy are getting some negative feedback about their Vampire show. It’s pretty bad when new posters are complaining about the quality of recent shows.
I did see a complaint about the 5 year membership cost. Evidently $100 is way too much for the great after show talks. Who could have imagined that!
Standingstones
Celestial
I believe that ‘Gene Steinberg’ and ‘financially secure’ are oxymoron terms.
SilentRunning
Honorable
I just dropped in over there to look at the feedback...ouch. @GhostofBiedny and anyone else who might have listened to it, you have all my respect for your sacrifice.
erickson
Honorable
Gene's current update is noteworthy because he thanks people whose generosity allowed him to stay in the motel a couple of extra days. Usually he just states that he raised sufficient money to stay a little longer. He also does not ask for legal help, but it is a Very Fast Update! so I'm not sure what can be read into that.
erickson
Honorable
To be fair, Gene's 2016 bankruptcy petition reported $1753 in joint social security income and just over $1000 in the average monthly income from the Paracast LLC.
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