Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
On Twitter she stated, "I am not completely ignorant, I just do not monitor the pulse of pop paranormal podcasts. Like I said, I don't know how much of the claims were true. I don't spend my time on that but understand that subscribers have more to say about it."

Not sure how to interpret that but, possibly she knew there were claims of Gene being crooked, but didn't bother to actually read the extensive documentation at Jack Brewer's UFO Trail blog before going on the show. I would imagine a defense is, I'm busy, I don't have time to look into the stories about the host of every podcast I appear on. I dunno. Just guessing. I'm not sure what she means by "the subscribers". Paracast listeners?

It might be nice if she bothered to pay attention now. I'll note I don't monitor the pulse of pop paranormal podcasts either, but I have troubled myself to read up on Gene, and thus here I am.

Her argument doesn't make sense. She seems to be aware of his shenanigans but really doesn't seem to care. She seems to be saying that she is so busy and on so many podcasts, that despite being aware of the allegations against Gene she couldn't possible look into it before going on the show.

She also said that going on podcasts is not a matter of money - the appearances don't boost her earnings or book sales yet she still doe sit.

Surely if it wasn't a matter of cold hard cash and necessity you would vet these things even more? If you aren't doing it for the money then maybe (one would at least presume) that the prestige of doing research is more important and hence you would not want to do anything that may tarnish your reputation.

Maybe I'm just an outlier in my thinking.

I think what she means by her reference to "subscribers" is that people would just unsubscribe if the tales about Gene were true and that would basically solve the problem as the Paracast would cease to exist.

Again this seems inconsistent, the average listener may well not be aware of what is going on particularly if their only experience is the forum and the podcast (both of which are censored and present Gene's false stories if it is even ever mentioned).

Hell she is supposed to be a leading researcher in the field and she is saying she only knows a little of the situation but doesn't know what is true, so it is strange that she would expect the average listener to vet this all and unsubscribe.

To be honest her responses suggest that she really doesn't have a good answer as to why she went on.

If I was going on a podcast and I found out there were allegations of scamming relating to the host I would make damn sure that I researched them properly before going on and associating my name and research with his. Even more so in the paranormal field where it is already ridiculed for being filled with pseudoscientific and new age guff as well as outright fraudsters.

If she can't even do that, it makes one highly dubious about her rigour in other situations.
 
If she can't even do that, it makes one highly dubious about her rigour in other situations.

I can't say I'm surprised. In my experience, the "skeptics" who are the most dismissive and the ones who are the meanest usually don't go very deep. In fact, from what I've seen, few of them have done much reading in the field, or any other real work. I like Jack Brewer because he's intellectually honest, and does his homework.
 

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
I will be honest. if I had the time money and tech savvy I would buy the show and arcives.
Maybe get someone who is,a awesome tech wizard to host. But alas with 5 kids cash is hard to come by. .
even if it was reasonable I could never afford such a hobby.
I'm just curious what the rough price range is that he is asking for. What do you think a reasonable/fair amount would be?
 
I'm just curious what the rough price range is that he is asking for. What do you think a reasonable/fair amount would be?

I'd bet he'd be angry if you offered him $50,000, which is at least $49,000 more than it's worth. Like many abandoned buildings, it has a negative value. The baggage is more of a liability than anyone could reasonably hope to offset. It would be better to start from scratch even if you could get it for free. And of course your audience would continue to be hounded by the whining wretch.
 

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
Someone mentioned the guy that was trying to buy the Paracast. He posted on the UFO Trail comments today:

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Its like a guy that owns a well established laundry mat bitching 7 days a week that he doesn't have two nickels to rub together. But you notice that his laundry mat is up for sale & when you inquire about it - he tells you about all the money you are going to make with it....yet again, he doesn't have two nickels. Not very reassuring way to buy a business when you see the current owner of that business is a complete broke dick daryl.

Whoever does end up buying it is going to have to have one of those bursts on the homepage that says "UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP".
 

wwkirk

Divine
Her argument doesn't make sense. She seems to be aware of his shenanigans but really doesn't seem to care. She seems to be saying that she is so busy and on so many podcasts, that despite being aware of the allegations against Gene she couldn't possible look into it before going on the show.

She also said that going on podcasts is not a matter of money - the appearances don't boost her earnings or book sales yet she still doe sit.

Surely if it wasn't a matter of cold hard cash and necessity you would vet these things even more? If you aren't doing it for the money then maybe (one would at least presume) that the prestige of doing research is more important and hence you would not want to do anything that may tarnish your reputation.

Maybe I'm just an outlier in my thinking.

I think what she means by her reference to "subscribers" is that people would just unsubscribe if the tales about Gene were true and that would basically solve the problem as the Paracast would cease to exist.

Again this seems inconsistent, the average listener may well not be aware of what is going on particularly if their only experience is the forum and the podcast (both of which are censored and present Gene's false stories if it is even ever mentioned).

Hell she is supposed to be a leading researcher in the field and she is saying she only knows a little of the situation but doesn't know what is true, so it is strange that she would expect the average listener to vet this all and unsubscribe.

To be honest her responses suggest that she really doesn't have a good answer as to why she went on.

If I was going on a podcast and I found out there were allegations of scamming relating to the host I would make damn sure that I researched them properly before going on and associating my name and research with his. Even more so in the paranormal field where it is already ridiculed for being filled with pseudoscientific and new age guff as well as outright fraudsters.

If she can't even do that, it makes one highly dubious about her rigour in other situations.
The historic reputation and listener base of the Paracast is probably all she cares about. For that matter, it's what most of the guest care about.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
Ok, that just literally made me LOL. Just the fact that you referenced him by his last followed by "...pisses me off so much lately." :)

I found that old piece of spam mail in my folder. I should have just deleted it but I read it instead. He was berating me and others for his sad state of affairs. He just pissed me off at the wrong time of day.

I replied back and got into a mini war with him. Frankly, he did tell me a lot about his warped state of mind. As I stated, he is riled up about getting caught in the casino. Times must be hard enough without explaining that away.

He said certain things that made me believe that he reads all the negative comments that are posted about him on various sites. Enlightening but in a negative way. He definitely keeps tabs on his bad press. Maybe it's giving him an ulcer, I can only hope. And yes, I do try to refer to him by his last name only if and when possible.
 
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Standingstones

Celestial
I am unclear why anyone would to buy the Paracast name. It has a negative connotation to it these days. It would be like renovating a run down building. You would need to exterminate a lot of rodents to make it liveable.
 

goblin

Noble
I am unclear why anyone would to buy the Paracast name. It has a negative connotation to it these days. It would be like renovating a run down building. You would need to exterminate a lot of rodents to make it liveable.

The bar to starting a podcast seems to me to be set rather low. I think it's largely a matter of making the time for it, plus some financial investment. Buying the Paracast implies you have enough money to just start your own thing. But, I imagine some people are fond of the Paracast the way I was fond of Coast to Coast back in the day.
 

goblin

Noble
I found that old piece of spam mail in my folder. I should have just deleted it but I read it instead. He was berating me and others for his sad state of affairs. He just pissed me off at the wrong time of day.

Just my own opinion, but: I firmly believe that if he cannot accept responsibility for the consequences of his decisions and actions, he is never going to better his circumstances. He'll just sit around blaming others and, as we've seen, keep engaging in the behavior that put him in the hole to begin with.
 

goblin

Noble
Her argument doesn't make sense. She seems to be aware of his shenanigans but really doesn't seem to care. She seems to be saying that she is so busy and on so many podcasts, that despite being aware of the allegations against Gene she couldn't possible look into it before going on the show.

She also said that going on podcasts is not a matter of money - the appearances don't boost her earnings or book sales yet she still doe sit.

Surely if it wasn't a matter of cold hard cash and necessity you would vet these things even more? If you aren't doing it for the money then maybe (one would at least presume) that the prestige of doing research is more important and hence you would not want to do anything that may tarnish your reputation.

Maybe I'm just an outlier in my thinking.

I think what she means by her reference to "subscribers" is that people would just unsubscribe if the tales about Gene were true and that would basically solve the problem as the Paracast would cease to exist.

Again this seems inconsistent, the average listener may well not be aware of what is going on particularly if their only experience is the forum and the podcast (both of which are censored and present Gene's false stories if it is even ever mentioned).

Hell she is supposed to be a leading researcher in the field and she is saying she only knows a little of the situation but doesn't know what is true, so it is strange that she would expect the average listener to vet this all and unsubscribe.

To be honest her responses suggest that she really doesn't have a good answer as to why she went on.

If I was going on a podcast and I found out there were allegations of scamming relating to the host I would make damn sure that I researched them properly before going on and associating my name and research with his. Even more so in the paranormal field where it is already ridiculed for being filled with pseudoscientific and new age guff as well as outright fraudsters.

If she can't even do that, it makes one highly dubious about her rigour in other situations.

I don't really get it either. To be fair, I take a dim view of anyone going on the Paracast these days. But, it's especially disappointing for someone who wants to be known for their critical thinking to, what, say because the show has fans Gene Steinberg might be an ok guy? I'm sure she wouldn't apply that standard to, say, politics. But again I may be missing her argument. Anyway, it's her career as a paranormal buzzkill; she can promote herself where she likes. My assessment will make no difference.
 

Wade

Stare..... They are always staring
Complete garbage. People opted in to receive messages about the forum, not Gene's begging letters. Also we can't opt out because any of us who care about security are sure as hell never going to log into the parasite forum ever again. He can't keep his bank account secure, God knows what hidden malware is on there and also what crap Steinberg has installed himself to spy on people.

And that's made me wonder, what's the gain? I mean if all the sudden all his "potential" doners ... delusional to be sure...suddenly decided to opt out and disappear that certainly can't be good in his eyes even though the emails don't enrichen him. In other words if he thought he could sell the names to another person what good would it do him to point out how to opt out from getting the solicitations even if he doesn't intend to honor the " opt-outs"

I hope that makes sense.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
If Steinberg did sell the Paracast he most likely would hang onto the list of people (members) he tries to beg from. Steinberg would try to sell the website to someone known to him or a “friend” of the show. I would never return to listen or join no matter who bought the website. It has too much of a negative meaning these days.

As far as his skeptical guest. I stand by my reasoning. Most of these people don’t give a fig about Steinberg’s situation or demeanor. They are looking at it as promoting a book or project. They probably figure they can toughen it out for two hours and suffer through Steinberg’s insufferable nonsense.
 

Alien

Adept
There we go again :
An S-O-S message

Hi,

I’ll be brief.

I paid for one more night at the motel.

The front office has been understanding, but if I can't pay this morning to extend my stay, I will have to leave.

This isn’t the only problem. The car’s tires are badly worn, and they wore unevenly, meaning that a wheel alignment is needed.

There’s more, but this is the worst of it.

Until the PayPal issue is resolved, here’s how you can help me today:

The best and fastest way to help is via Facebook Messenger, which provides for instant money transfers to my bank debit card. You can even use your PayPal account as a funding source.

Here’s my Facebook page:

Gene Steinberg
 

Alien

Adept
And Another One :
Everything is collapsing!

As I continue to struggle to right my finances, I’m facing new obstacles.

Yesterday, I paid for one more night at the motel.

If I don’t pay for the rest of the stay and a new reservation by midday today, Arizona time, they will force me to leave.

This isn’t the only problem. The car’s tires are badly worn, and they wore unevenly, meaning that a wheel alignment is needed.

There’s more, but this is the worst of it.

Until the PayPal issue is resolved, here’s how you can help me today:
 

Standingstones

Celestial
There we go again :
An S-O-S message

Hi,

I’ll be brief.

I paid for one more night at the motel.

The front office has been understanding, but if I can't pay this morning to extend my stay, I will have to leave.

This isn’t the only problem. The car’s tires are badly worn, and they wore unevenly, meaning that a wheel alignment is needed.

There’s more, but this is the worst of it.

Until the PayPal issue is resolved, here’s how you can help me today:

The best and fastest way to help is via Facebook Messenger, which provides for instant money transfers to my bank debit card. You can even use your PayPal account as a funding source.

Here’s my Facebook page:

Gene Steinberg
Dear God! Now it’s worn tires that are added to the begging list.
 
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