Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

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Standingstones

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Of all the lies that come out of Steinberg’s mouth, the 11am motel payment stinks to high heaven the most. I don’t believe for a moment he is paying daily. He would be insanely stupid not to use their Social Security money to keep a roof over their heads.

The daily payment is merely a convenient ruse to try and keep fresh fund rolling in. My guess is that it is not working so well these days and Steinberg isn’t smart enough to come up with a new begging point.
 

Trevor Hill

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His latest..

"Gentle Reader,

We’ve been at a motel for 7 months now, paying for more than a decent apartment in this area.

I barely make the daily payment to stay here. The main reason that I cannot get out of here and move to a much cheaper place is that I’ve not been able to raise enough extra money to also cover the move-in.

It’s a vicious cycle.

I am doing my best to boost income. In addition to the ride-sharing gigs, the new Tech Night Owl and Paracast stores are about to debut.

When the first is fully active, there will be dozens and dozens of premium products for customers of Apple gear, including Macs. As it stands today, cash is very short.

In order to survive, I desperately need your help."
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
If he’s so broke how can he possibly capitalise/fund-up these new store ventures? How is he paying for the software development?
this is one of the many questions that deserve a answer..
like he gets a Socal security check. his wife does to! he gets ad revenue.
where does that money go?
And here is food for thought
in months of living in a hotel he never missed a payment..ever.
 

DavidVincent

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I get it now, having taken a very quick look the cafepress.com site - it's all print on demand/drop-ship, there are basically no "store-front"setup or physical inventory costs, it's all done by them and you just get a commission yourself. All you have to do is sign-up, select your products and submit your digital logo. Thing is that you have to sell thousands to make any real money. It's all about volume - which I doubt he has. Without volume it's definitely not the "royal road to riches" But in any event there's no need to employ a software developer, or even have any technical knowledge yourself - and anyone (even me!) could have this up and running almost immediately. All those previous statements about the new online store being in development just doesn't make sense? Am I missing something?
 

Standingstones

Celestial
If he’s so broke how can he possibly capitalise/fund-up these new store ventures? How is he paying for the software development?
It’s probably safe to say that Steinberg wants any software developer to work for free. Maybe that is the reason all these “improvements” are taking so long. He probably tried to do the upgrades himself and got it all screwed up. Steinberg is delusional if he think that new bling will help solve his money problems.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
A new piece of BS has been expelled from the hole:

A daily nightmare!
Hello,

Once again, I don’t have enough money to cover today’s motel bill.

It’s due at 11 AM Mountain.

I am sick and tired of barely making it, but that’s how it’s been.

It’s a vicious circle.

I am doing my best to boost income. In addition to the ride-sharing gigs, the new Tech Night Owl and Paracast stores are about to debut. When the first is fully active, there will be dozens and dozens of premium products for customers of Apple gear, including Macs. I already have the banners, and the first product listing will be posted this week. Promise!

But in order to survive, I desperately need your help.

Can you send a donation today?

To send a donation, please login to: Send Money, Pay Online or Set Up a Merchant Account - PayPal, login and use the Send to friends and family option. Enter my email address, gene@technightowl.com, and click or tap Next to continue the transaction.

As you may know, online stalkers have been attacking me for years, sometimes playing vicious pranks as well. If you want to know what’s really going on, please check this article: The Stalkers | The Tech Night Owl — Cutting-Edge Tech Commentary

If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to write.

Thank you for reading and for your past support.

Peace,
Gene
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
It’s probably safe to say that Steinberg wants any software developer to work for free. Maybe that is the reason all these “improvements” are taking so long. He probably tried to do the upgrades himself and got it all screwed up. Steinberg is delusional if he think that new bling will help solve his money problems.

Yes you don't have to worry about paying if you never pay for anything. If there ever truly was a revamp he has probably tried to screw whoever was doing it by not paying them.
 

GiantsBain

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If he’s so broke how can he possibly capitalise/fund-up these new store ventures? How is he paying for the software development?
Only way he can afford any third party work on his site is by bamboozling someone or, more likely at this point, engaging the services of someone who will agree to do the work for a percentage of the take on merch. and control of the store backend. Result is bound to be pretty much a hack job, as nobody is gonna sink much time into an "enterprise" like his. Actual work may be done by an intern, etc. Pretty much anyone would at least Google his name and it'd be "Sayonara, bebe!"
 

GiantsBain

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I get it now, having taken a very quick look the cafepress.com site - it's all print on demand/drop-ship, there are basically no "store-front"setup or physical inventory costs, it's all done by them and you just get a commission yourself. All you have to do is sign-up, select your products and submit your digital logo. Thing is that you have to sell thousands to make any real money. It's all about volume - which I doubt he has. Without volume it's definitely not the "royal road to riches" But in any event there's no need to employ a software developer, or even have any technical knowledge yourself - and anyone (even me!) could have this up and running almost immediately. All those previous statements about the new online store being in development just doesn't make sense? Am I missing something?
I doubt you are missing anything. And certainly, no business is going to do any significant work for the mouse-nuts rewards they see are in the offing for them.
 

erickson

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I thought the interesting thing from the Bumgarner Affair was that Gene stated he received $1500 -$2000a year from the ad-links to the Night Owl (with another potential for 9 minutes worth of ads that he cannot sell).

But he received much more than that through the Paracast.

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The figures in the bankruptcy petition might still be a good measure of his resources.

With Lyft/Uber added to that. . . . Gene receives more than the salary of many federal employees if the federal employees were getting paid. In the wake of the shutdown stories, he needs a more compelling story than the 11 am motel deadline.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
I thought the interesting thing from the Bumgarner Affair was that Gene stated he received $1500 -$2000a year from the ad-links to the Night Owl (with another potential for 9 minutes worth of ads that he cannot sell).

But he received much more than that through the Paracast.

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The figures in the bankruptcy petition might still be a good measure of his resources.

With Lyft/Uber added to that. . . . Gene receives more than the salary of many federal employees if the federal employees were getting paid. In the wake of the shutdown stories, he needs a more compelling story than the 11 am motel deadline.

Given that he will lie when there is no need to lie it stands to reason he will always lie when it is to his advantage.

I wouldn't believe his claims of income from the TNOL when he is trying to sell it anymore than I would believe his bullshit emergency stories.

It is likely he was inflating what he gets so he could get more out of the sale. On the other hand it would not surprise me if he lied in the bankruptcy to make out he was receiving less money than he was.

It's not like he has any morals and I it is patently clear by now that he doesn't even care if he gets caught on it because he thinks he will always get away with it and so far he has been right on that.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
ps - Paracast forums seem almost totally dead now - apart from the odd "nutter" posting/obviously fake photo submission.

Hardly a surprise. Who wants to be part of a forum where the moderators lock threads whenever they feel they are losing an argument, won't let you discuss the owner's email scamming, delete and alter other people's responses, read personal messages, arbitrarily ban people and maliciously add them to a master forum spam list out of spite.

You'd have to be a completely insane masochist to keep using it.

I haven't tried logging on at all in the last six months - I just don't trust the site to be safe and there is no longer anything worth discussing on there anymore. The only really interesting activity of late has been people calling out Gene and we have all seen how that got swiftly shut down.

Gene is the ideal combination of inept and malicious and I would be scared of the site exposing my details or installing malware. I would also not be surprised if Gene was selling the personal details of members to get extra money (- given that he is perfectly happy to spam people with ebegs that they didn't opt in to).

The guy's lack of morals are only matched by his stupidity. The more desperate and delusional he gets the more dangerous he becomes to his own subscribers.
 

SilentRunning

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I thought the interesting thing from the Bumgarner Affair was that Gene stated he received $1500 -$2000a year from the ad-links to the Night Owl (with another potential for 9 minutes worth of ads that he cannot sell).

But he received much more than that through the Paracast.

View attachment 5489

The figures in the bankruptcy petition might still be a good measure of his resources.

With Lyft/Uber added to that. . . . Gene receives more than the salary of many federal employees if the federal employees were getting paid. In the wake of the shutdown stories, he needs a more compelling story than the 11 am motel deadline.


My husband makes about $48K annually with 14 years in of gov't service, not counting his five years in the Navy.
 

erickson

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My husband makes about $48K annually with 14 years in of gov't service, not counting his five years in the Navy.

Just before posting I read an interview with a furloughed employee who was making far less before the paychecks stopped.

Gene's situation contrasts with shutdown stories I hear; the stories of seniors who were burned out, some of whom receive only $1000 a month in social security; the people who have had to deal with real emergencies, whether that be because of unemployment, medical bills, or natural disaster. For that matter, the median income at the Pine Ridge reservation is between $2,600 to $3,500 a year.

But Gene has a motel bill due.

 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
I think what makes Gene particularly disgusting is the fact that he breaks one of the primary social contracts that most of society is built on.

That is the idea that there is a balance between giving and taking - a central concept of fairness.

If you take something you must give back an amount equivalent to it. The most common aspect of this is that we buy goods (the take) and we pay for them using money (the give). In this case "the give" part is abstracted using money but in other societies you might barter one service for another.

This social contract also extends to the idea of friends helping each other out when they are in need and there is the tacit assumption that if the situations are reversed you would reciprocate for the friend and vice versa.

This central concept is the basis of all human civilisation.

You pay for what you use whether it is by exchanging work or money and that makes things fair (obviously it is not perfect but in most cases it works). Even small children understand and accept this concept. Indeed some animals (particularly higher mammals) can understand this even though they can't vocalise it the way people can.

Gene utterly rejects this concept.

For him there is only take (never any give) and what makes it particularly egregious is the way that he does this with absolutely no shame or remorse. To him it is his God given right to get whatever he wants.

There is never sincere thanks or gratitude either. No apology for those he may have hurt. If anything he is aggressive in doubling down on his entitlement to other's money. The very idea that anybody could even question this attitude is an outrage to him.

Not once has he expressed regret for screwing landlords out of thousands of dollars of money. Not even a single time has he expressed remorse for conning Torson out of tens of thousands of dollars. To Gene this is all fine. It is all for him to take.

It is all about Gene. As long as Gene is fine the world is fine - nothing else matters. The only unethical behaviour is that which hurts or harms Gene. Other people are fair game and have value only in as much as they can help Gene do what he wants to do.

I think this is central to what is so infuriating about him and makes him such a stinking pile of human excrement.
 

goblin

Noble
I think what makes Gene particularly disgusting is the fact that he breaks one of the primary social contracts that most of society is built on.

That is the idea that there is a balance between giving and taking - a central concept of fairness.

If you take something you must give back an amount equivalent to it. The most common aspect of this is that we buy goods (the take) and we pay for them using money (the give). In this case "the give" part is abstracted using money but in other societies you might barter one service for another.

This social contract also extends to the idea of friends helping each other out when they are in need and there is the tacit assumption that if the situations are reversed you would reciprocate for the friend and vice versa.

This central concept is the basis of all human civilisation.

You pay for what you use whether it is by exchanging work or money and that makes things fair (obviously it is not perfect but in most cases it works). Even small children understand and accept this concept. Indeed some animals (particularly higher mammals) can understand this even though they can't vocalise it the way people can.

Gene utterly rejects this concept.

For him there is only take (never any give) and what makes it particularly egregious is the way that he does this with absolutely no shame or remorse. To him it is his God given right to get whatever he wants.

There is never sincere thanks or gratitude either. No apology for those he may have hurt. If anything he is aggressive in doubling down on his entitlement to other's money. The very idea that anybody could even question this attitude is an outrage to him.

Not once has he expressed regret for screwing landlords out of thousands of dollars of money. Not even a single time has he expressed remorse for conning Torson out of tens of thousands of dollars. To Gene this is all fine. It is all for him to take.

It is all about Gene. As long as Gene is fine the world is fine - nothing else matters. The only unethical behaviour is that which hurts or harms Gene. Other people are fair game and have value only in as much as they can help Gene do what he wants to do.

I think this is central to what is so infuriating about him and makes him such a stinking pile of human excrement.

The world, at least the mostly nice part that I am lucky enough to inhabit, runs on honesty. This despite the likes of Gene Steinberg. Imagine his reputation in a small village.

There have been claims from psychological studies that humans have an innate sense of fairness or justice (I've certainly noticed it most strongly in people who grew up in multiple child households... but that's another story). I believe I've even seen studies saying some other higher primates seem to react badly to perceived unfairness. None of these claims strike me as implausible, really.

I think the sense of injustice that Gene is able to carry on with his emails and theatrics with no apparent repercussions angers people and that, along with the unbelievability of the whole thing, is one thing that keep people interested in his antics.

And makes it even more appalling to me that J. Randall Murphy cannot see the problems with Gene's everyday standard methods of operating. Is there some Venn diagram that would show people who are likely to stubbornly persist in the belief of something paranormal, such as UFOs, are also more likely to persist in believing in and defending Gene Steinberg? In the center of that of course would sit, proudly, USI Calgary, no doubt confused why he's all alone.

(I mean, to pick some names people may have heard of, David Biedny, Chris O'Brien, Paul Kimball, Jack Brewer, Lance Moody, Aaron Gulyas, Adam Gorightly, Joshua Cutchin, Jeremy Vaeni, Jeff Ritzmann, Carol Rainey, Tyler Kokjohn, Patrick Huyghe, Royce Myers, and Tim Binnall all appear to see serious issues with Gene and his conduct. Several of those folks don't agree on much or even like one another, yet all, I believe, agree it's a bad idea to give Gene Steinberg your cash. Not J. Randall Murphy though. And no disrespect to the dozens of others who feel the same as myself about Gene; I'm just naming publishers, podcasters, authors and so on whose names occur to me, and imagining all of them on one side of a scale and USI Calgary on the other side. Perhaps there's something wrong with Gene and we can expect no better than we've seen from him, but what of J. Randall Murphy?)

The account in comments at the UFO Trail blog of how Gene screwed up "Mike's" attempt to purchase the Paracast as an act of charity is sadly all too believable as a case of Gene being his own worst enemy (and one can imagine him sweating over the question of, is trading the Paracast in for $10,000 now worth never being able to use it as a begging platform again?).

If Gene is sick of what he calls his stalkers, he can stop feeding them. Cut out the emails. Start being honest.

Of course that's "if" Gene actually wants the attention to stop. I think it's noteworthy in his recent "one-time statement" all of the episodes he related from an alleged eight year history of harassment happened in this past year, and several of them are known to be bullshit, or are being wildly misrepresented. Is he more full of shit or more delusional, I don't know. Is he on the sauce or a pill head? Your guess is better than mine. The secret Discordian theory has as much explanatory power as any of the other assessments.
 
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