Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

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nivek

As Above So Below
Oh look the garbage store is back up with its' one fake item for fake sale. Hurry up and get it while you can. There are only 7 left and this fake offer ends in 2 days and 18 hours. They have removed the fake reviews too so it must be legit now.

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Yeah those airbuds are likely counterfeits as they have been found in Amazon stores too...

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Amazon still has a problem with counterfeit goods despite a multi-year effort to crack down on fake sellers, according to an investigation by The Guardian.

The investigators were able to find the following fakes through the Amazon Marketplace:

  • Knockoff Apple AirPods

  • Fake Louis Vuitton iPhone case

  • Counterfeit Kylie Jenner lip gloss

  • Used iPhone chargers that were sold as new
These items were sold by third-party sellers and were listed as legitimate on the site. The counterfeit Airpods were shipped via the “Fullfilled by Amazon” feature, which enables third-party sellers to store the items in Amazon’s warehouses prior to being packed and delivered by Amazon employees.

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Lance

Adept
That idiot, Murphy, said:

A wise Jewish landlord once told me that if you've never failed in business you've never tried.

Was this before a deadbeat Steinberg defaulted on the landlord's lease or after?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
That idiot, Murphy, said:

A wise Jewish landlord once told me that if you've never failed in business you've never tried.

Was this before a deadbeat Steinberg defaulted on the landlord's lease or after?

So one must fail at a business to succeed?...Why didn't anyone tell me that before...My company of 15 years is flourishing and far from failing, but I guess building it from the ground up and running it properly for 15 years doesn't count...

What an ass...

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goblin

Noble
So one must fail at a business to succeed?...Why didn't anyone tell me that before...My company of 15 years is flourishing and far from failing, but I guess building it from the ground up and running it properly for 15 years doesn't count...

What an ass...

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I'll guess there have been plenty of occasions in the life of J. Randall Murphy for folks to give him pep talks about failure. Just a hunch.
 

DavidVincent

Honorable
just in case I get sanitised again or fully deleted:

DavidVincent

Paranormal Maven
5 minutes ago
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Randall you've gone way off beam again and actually probably won't be thanked for bringing "Wise Jewish landlords", business failure and criminal law into the mix. I didn't ask anything about those.

All I was asking was are those two entities in "good standing"? The links I referenced above are official records of the registry. I think it's perfectly reasonable question to ask. You could just say "yes/no" - and even if "no" that it doesn't phase you in any way - simple.
 
Law talking dude who is also a businessperson weighing in here. I’ve had a lot of companies over the years (every time you have a production, you run the production through a single purpose company). Most have been fine, one or two ran into trouble (and I’ve been pretty open about that - see here, for example). It happens, as Randall says. But the one thing I’ve never done, nor has anyone else I know, is to continue to pretend to be operating a company as a going concern that has been permanently revoked.

And the “Jewish landlord” thing? Ugh...
 
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By the way, in the article I linked to above it references a failed project back in 2010. It almost ruined me financially (a far bigger hit than Gene has ever claimed, and mine was real). I didn’t beg people for money. I didn’t blame anyone other than myself. I didn’t keep repeating my errors. I picked myself up, learned from my mistakes, and worked hard to rebuild. And I did. So I both know what Gene claims to be going through, and I know how you get yourself out of it. I tried to explain that to him more than once. It never worked.
 

DavidVincent

Honorable
Sure - but the successful businessman has many more successes than failures in aggregate, learns from their mistakes - that’s the American way. I guess GS thinks he knows exactly what he’s doing and won’t take any counsel. JRM either doesn’t really understand what’s going on - or just doesn’t want to? The experiences of past cohosts doesn’t seem to give pause for thought - there are surely enough warning lights flashing by now though?
 

DavidVincent

Honorable
Law talking dude who is also a businessperson weighing in here. I’ve had a lot of companies over the years (every time you have a production, you run the production through a single purpose company). Most have been fine, one or two ran into trouble (and I’ve been pretty open about that - see here, for example). It happens, as Randall says. But the one thing I’ve never done, nor has anyone else I know, is to continue to pretend to be operating a company as a going concern that has been permanently revoked.

And the “Jewish landlord” thing? Ugh...

that was a classic Freudian slip for sure! :)
 

goblin

Noble
By the way, in the article I linked to above it references a failed project back in 2010. It almost ruined me financially (a far bigger hit than Gene has ever claimed, and mine was real). I didn’t beg people for money. I didn’t blame anyone other than myself. I didn’t keep repeating my errors. I picked myself up, learned from my mistakes, and worked hard to rebuild. And I did. So I both know what Gene claims to be going through, and I know how you get yourself out of it. I tried to explain that to him more than once. It never worked.

Gene's fixation on the money he allegedly 'lost' to his sister-in-law's family has not served him well. And I find he is not very coherent on the topic.

First he claims he lent them $200,000 because they were family and it was the right thing to do. From everything I know of Gene, it's pretty impossible to imagine he ever amassed that much money.

Next though, he claims that some of the loans he later defaulted on were to help his sister-in-law's family. So - did he have $200K, or did he borrow it? (The distinction here matters because it's hardly "your life savings" you are lending someone if you had to borrow much of the money you lent.)

Finally, he says supporting his in-laws was the right thing to do, but at the same time he clearly expected to be repaid with interest. Like it was some investment, or (perhaps more accurately in hindsight) a gamble.

If it was the right thing to do, I'd argue it was the right thing to do whether you expected to be repaid or not. Expecting to be repaid or even to profit on a deal is not helping out your family because that is the right thing to do; indeed it's what banks or other commercial lenders do (just, I doubt they would've done so in the case of Gene's clearly high risk in-laws).

It's easy for me to say "get over it" with regard to the myth of Gene's lost fortune, but, it's rather unbelievable to me how he keeps trying to trade in on that hard-to-follow story.

(The story as I understand it: His brother-in-law was the target of an unfair lawsuit... that somehow was keeping him from a big cash settlement... once the settlement arrived everything would be great... but then he developed cancer and died... his estate apparently let the whole (fictional) matter drop... so Gene is now out the money he lent them. And this had to be what 10 years ago or more? (Am I wrong?) But it's still, when he can be bothered, part of the backstory for his begging routine.)

From my own careful observations of Gene over the last year or so, I've seen him outright lie or wildly exaggerate many times. With that in mind, I just have a really hard time swallowing the whole "Gene's poor because he generously gave his life savings when his sister-in-law's family was in need" story. It stinks. And even if it were true, I still have the above problems with the continued begging on the back of that tale.
 
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Kaidan

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Based on recommendations here, I've been listening to Where Did the Road Go, Into the Fray and Radio Misterioso and have enjoyed all of them as alternatives to the Paracast. Just downloaded a bunch of new episodes to keep me going. Thanks, guys.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
Apparently the only reason Gene can't succeed is because the "haters" won't get the hell out of his way because he has refuted all the allegations made against him and lots of other people beg in the same way he does to an even worse extent. Right, just because you say it Gene doesn't make it real.
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Those two clowns are so far into denial it's embarrassing. A great many of us have had to dig ourselves out of financial holes of one kind or another. I'd wager we all used the same recipe: chose an intelligent course of action, and work your ass off. Gene has yet to even admit he needs to do the first. The second is so much against his nature, he's probably better off just hoping for a miracle. It's no doubt a lot less stressful than contemplating all that hard work.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
"Get the hell out of my way?"

If gene had his way this topic would be gone. Everyone here banned.
If gene had his way SGRC would be removed from twitter.
If Gene had his way UFO trail would remove all blogs about him.
Gene will stop at nothing to silence us.
Never be silent..
 
"If they really wanted to see me succeed financially, they should let me swindle as many people as I can."

That's moronic, Schnorrberg.

We're trying to help you succeed as a decent human by giving you lots of good advice, which you ignore. You continue your wretched, sick, and dishonest course headed straight for failure. After you take up residence in your precious car, you will continue to deny reality, blame anyone and everyone but yourself, and keep whining. You are so predictable. You are a coward and a liar.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Apparently the only reason Gene can't succeed is because the "haters" won't get the hell out of his way because he has refuted all the allegations made against him and lots of other people beg in the same way he does to an even worse extent. Right, just because you say it Gene doesn't make it real.

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I know of others who request donations more frequently than I do, and they aren't bothered by stalkers.

Who are these others and what sort of donations are they asking for?...Or is he making this up too?...Could it be a small group of beggers working together, sharing the bounty?...Who are these stalkers he keeps quibbling about?...Or is he making this up too?...

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The shadow

The shadow knows!
who are the online stalkers?
Me
you ,Jack Brewer, Everyone who ever tried to tell the truth.
We "stalk" him by telling everyone about the grift. and we won't go away.
 

goblin

Noble
Those two clowns are so far into denial it's embarrassing. A great many of us have had to dig ourselves out of financial holes of one kind or another. I'd wager we all used the same recipe: chose an intelligent course of action, and work your ass off. Gene has yet to even admit he needs to do the first. The second is so much against his nature, he's probably better off just hoping for a miracle. It's no doubt a lot less stressful than contemplating all that hard work.

Denial really sums it up nicely.

I could go on and on about Gene's insane take on things but, what's the point? Anyone reading it here likely mostly agrees. Gene isn't going to ever accept that not only is his begging behavior bizarre and unscrupulous but it's undermined anything positive he still might want to have gotten out of producing his podcasts.

He's known as a pathetic, grasping, delusional bullshit artist who doesn't care who he hurts. Nothing will change that now. Nor can he, or his gimp USI Calgary, ever acknowledge it.
 

goblin

Noble
who are the online stalkers?
Me
you ,Jack Brewer, Everyone who ever tried to tell the truth.
We "stalk" him by telling everyone about the grift. and we won't go away.

It is likely a measure of how far gone Gene is.

How does he square this -

You, and plenty of people who donated time and / or gave him money and advice now see him as a liar and a crook.

Many people he might regard as nearly his peers (if his ego could allow such a thing!) seem to have the same opinion: David Biedny, Chris O'Brien, Paul Kimball, Jeff Ritzmann, Jeremy Vaeni, Tim Binnall, Jack Brewer, Royce Myers.

People he has or could have had as guests marvel at him on Twitter: Joshua Cutchin, Aaron Gulyas, Lance Moody.

Probably more folks I am forgetting, and lots of other people besides. Lots of former listeners and Paracast forum members. Even some tech journalists.

Somehow he can see all this and decide those people are the problem and his behavior is perfectly normal. He is persecuted. He's like Norman Bates at the end of Psycho... "Why, she wouldn't even harm a fly."

Oh and, Gene: "I have long ago refuted some of the worst of this nonsense, at least what I see. I seldom venture forth into that slog." I think we've established he reads everything written about him here and elsewhere, right? Is there anyone who still doubts that? Besides his gimp, maybe.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
those who are familiar with the fourms have read some of my wife's beliefs.
I will not speak for her except to say she sent him money. And when she found out the truth it hurt her badly
I also fell for the con.
I am angry. we all are angry.
Gene I know you read this so tell me where your social security checks go?
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