Ben Moss's ridiculous claims about Socorro

Justice Fodor

A pen name of Dean (used 2-8-19 to 8-1-21)
1. Ray Stanford Close Up No. 1: His Ever-Receding Claims to Possess World-Shaking UFO Evidences:
Ray Stanford and His Ever-Receding Claims of World-Shaking UFO Evidences

(this thread includes my detailed comment on Stanford's 1980 fundraising letter claiming to have obtained 8 color UFO movies in one 28-month period.
Ray Stanford and His Ever-Receding Claims of World-Shaking UFO Evidences

2. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 2: His Campaign to Build a Super-Power-Inducing Time Machine (the "Hilaron Accelerator"):
Ray Stanford and His Super-Power-Inducing Time Machine (AKA "The Hilaron Accelerator")

3. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 3: His Instructions for Greeting the Occupants of the UFO That Was Going to Land (Project Starlight International):
Ray Stanford's Instructions for Greeting the Occupants of the UFO That Would Land (1973)

4. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 4: His Claim of a NASA-Goddard Cover Up of His Socorro-UFO-Metal (Socorro 'Saucer' in a Pentagon Pantry)
Ray Stanford and his NASA-Goddard UFO-Metal Cover-Up Claim (1964)

5. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 5: His Claim to Possess a Piece of a Gigantic Interstellar Spacecraft
(the "Space Material"):
Ray Stanford's Claim to Have a Piece of a Gigantic Intergalactic Spacecraft (Space Material)(1971)

6. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 6 -- Audio Excerpts of Stanford Lecturing on, and Channeling, Aramda, of the Extraterrestrial "Watchers":
Ray Stanford Close-Up #6 - Audio Excerpts of Stanford Speaking & Channeling Aramda of "The Watchers"
 

Justice Fodor

A pen name of Dean (used 2-8-19 to 8-1-21)
Ray Stanford was a lightning rod topic for quite awhile over in those forums because Chris O'Brien would constantly rave about Ray and his "research" on virtually every episode of the show. Then he got so pissed at all of us ripping him in the forums that he swore he would never mention Ray again. That lasted maybe 2 weeks and then he basically told all of us saying "put up or shut up" to fuck off (paraphrasing) and that he'd talk about Ray whenever he wanted and that if anyone doubted Ray's photos, call him up so you could visit him and see the research for yourself. . . On a tangential note, I listened to an interview with Stanford on Martin Willis' UFO Podcast several years ago where he actually said to Martin, "I told my wife, if I pass away, just put all of my research in a pile and light it on fire." I mean, what the fuck? That comment alone made me lose any respect for the man as a serious researcher. Who thinks that way? The selfishness was stunning. I also find it raises more questions about his materials and attitude.

I discuss what I call "the private UFO peep shows at Stanford's residence" (also referred to as "private viewings of the Stanford artifacts at 'Ray Stanford University'") in a new thread here. Also touched on in that thread is the attitude/psychology.
 
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