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Georgek

George
I believe most of the abducted were members of the very species that abducted them in their immediate past life. They agreed to it in that past life.
In this way it is not really as it would seem from an outsider or perhaps to the abducted.

IMHO
Hello Soul -Drifter,

I have had some weird and wonderful experience in my life.

They will not tell me their plans or what they see in me or others.
As opposed to some other stories of abductions etc...they have been very polite with me. As compared to some of the encounters I had read with some others, ending up in the farmer's field minus the Elastoplasts...lol

Probably similar to not paying your bus fair and getting kicked out of the bus...lol

It depends on perspective.

Must have spent a lot of time on the anaesthetic with me, as I remember or felt very little. As opposed to 6 month visits to the Shrinks compared with others.

At least I came back complete and felt better. The only reason why I knew that something had happened was looking round and noticing my recorder switched on.
Looking like the final picture of Dorian Grey never happened.

A pre-messsage I had was:- "Hope you get back alright?"

I thought it was a 'look after yourself' coming back from the shops...lol

It makes me think that they take your spirit/soul away.

There is a strong connection towards past encounters and people who relate to fairies.

If some are expecting a dollar under their pillow, the best they will get is a sock in the mouth with a a few teeth missing..lol


I did come across a site where 95% of members had been abducted. I thought they might at least set up a 'donation enlightenment collection box'

When you ask as to what happened?

You get:- " F***ing @@&* ##%..b*s**rds cut my leg and broke my &%@#!!!"
Then you get raw red pictures of damaged parts of their anatomy . Ranging from red raw posteriors to other parts as to compare with others.

I was going to ask:- "Did you get a refund?" or an SOS package?"

Somehow I thought most would be wondering about like Percy in The Green Mile after John Corfee had breathed in his mouth? The shock being too great to imagine?

No.......it could just as well been the local 'bruiser' from up the road paying back that unpaid loan...lol

Some of these sites were like 'The Battered Wives Club' as each had come to have some comfort.

I blame cheap alcohol or drugs. As I bet some end up on the planet Norbos only to fall back on their face to be run over by the farmer's tractor!

I nearly spent an hour with my head in the sick bucket after looking at some of these anatomical macabre bits of flesh whatever.....It was the deformities elsewhere on their bodies that struck my attention as ET may have had reason to investigate.
We shall never know but I suggest a strong padlock and chain tied to your bedpost with a picture of Patrick ***** with a set of darts next to it as to divert their attention:D

George
 
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Georgek

George
Finally it is difficult to put credibility on a lot of these stories

One guy spoke on behalf of the alien tribunal saying that he was an alien and that they were going to destroy life on Earth with haemorrhoids (or was that asteroids?)

Another ended up in Area 51 drilling through a flying saucer.
If I was an alien having a kip, there would be a galactic war on their hands.
Either that or GORT may escape!
 
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Georgek

George
I believe most of the abducted were members of the very species that abducted them in their immediate past life. They agreed to it in that past life.
In this way it is not really as it would seem from an outsider or perhaps to the abducted.

IMHO
Yes...there could be a connection ?

The bottom line...as that we KNOW our abductors? Yes?

From my experience and I have to say nothing has actually told me, as this is my own assumption....

This Earth once contained beings deemed as gods. They went into seclusion after interacting with mankind.

If we look upon these high entities as great souls, we can perhaps understand that we share their makeup. We are part of them as they are part of us.

The entities that I had connections with appear 'Earthly'. From their appearance they resemble;e Greys but not entirely.
They are small perhaps about 5 feet? There appearance is such that they have small mouths almost miniature similar to many drawings I had seen.

Except for one thing, their noses are flute like and lead up to the forehead forming a protrusion as it disappears higher up. Their eyes are similar to Greys but they have no eyes except bulges where their eyes had been.

I n all respect they are spiritual and for what they had sent me are pictures of robots.
Apart from that, they dress with gowns having high collars almost Elizabethan and some wearing robes.

Their characteristics are Earthly and if you take The Ten Commandments, Jason and the Argonauts, Clash of the Titans...
they are the aliens that I am in contact with.

They are the gods who drive around on beams of light and UFOs.


They can also control the weather as can be seen in The Ten Commandments.




It is not hard to see how their power can be invoked

Cecil-de-Mills got it very close

This may not be our typical aliens?

I have not come across the other kind...only these.

Going back to your point...we are descendent from the gods. The bible sates this in Genesis. "Ye are gods...children of the most high"

I am not going to go deeper into this, but it gives way to thought.

This one is pretty close but too harsh...


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SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Many of our otherworldly visitors...most IMHO...are from other universes.
Time flow differently in most of them.
There is a polarity to the Multiverse.
A temporal one.
This explains how some of the abducted can be taken at odd places and be gone for mere minutes, yet upon returning indicate they were gone hours and in some cases weeks.
If they do this from a far enough away universe one could be taken for a mere 1 second and have been held for years.
 

Georgek

George
Many of our otherworldly visitors...most IMHO...are from other universes.
Time flow differently in most of them.
There is a polarity to the Multiverse.
A temporal one.
This explains how some of the abducted can be taken at odd places and be gone for mere minutes, yet upon returning indicate they were gone hours and in some cases weeks.
If they do this from a far enough away universe one could be taken for a mere 1 second and have been held for years.
I must admit SOUL-DRIFTER,

I have given up trying to work them out.

There are certain areas that many things that could or could not be and the different interactions that a person may be subjected?

It makes me also wonder whether these things happen a in a parallel universe and interact with this one?

There are reasons why I think this.

On one occasion, I used my recorder for EVPs on the day before visiting The Galleries of Justices in Nottingham.

Jokingly I said that I was going to visit their mates tomorrow.

All seemed fine whist recording, but when I played back the recording, on the recorder the door opened with a loud creak only to be slammed shut in disgust.

This was so strange because the door was shut all the time and everyone was asleep upstairs.

I had been trying to put across various photos provided to me by ET.

The question asked:- "How did ET borrow your camera? Are you saying that they came into your bedroom, borrowed your camera and then brought it back?"

This is exactly what I had been saying as I can offer no other explanation. Well...so much for the truth as gangs tend to build up.

With all honesty, I do not know how the images appear, only that they do. So I can only work backwards and try and explain it?
The more I try, the worst it gets, as they want me to say that I either faked the whole lot or am mad?

One other thing you may find interesting which points to your hypothesis, is this:-

One afternoon I was in the house alone and could hear the stomping of feet, creaking of timbers and my tape recorder slide controls being operated.

(sorry I got passed being afraid)

It was just like a real solid person in my bedroom.

How did he/she get up there...impossible!

So I ran up the stairs in a few seconds and swung the bedroom door wide open to catch the intruder.
(this may be in Frank's report?)
I had always been an electronic geek, but never that brilliant at it.

In the room there was silence.

My 'Spinney' reel to reel tape recorder remained on the lino off..

I had been trying to make it into a UFO transmitter. (well I was only 15 years old at the time)
Could never get the transmitting range by using negative feedback. The amp would build up as the output went back into the input and out again until overlap boosted the signal and straight out to a transmitting mast. By which I used a TV dipole. I would ask Frank to ask the aliens if the range had improved by Ouija Board.

They must have got sick and tired at my requests and came to do the job themselves...lol

Looking down, I found my arrangement of phono plug wires totally reconfigured but logical .

The person who altered the wiring had used the dinner knife to shave the plastic sheaf of the wires. As one would to let us say sharpen a blunt person.

I could never do this or ever attempted it. Instead I always used a scissors to cut round the wire in a circle. There was still plastic on the knife blade.

I though:- "This ain't gonna work and set it all back again"

Indeed...it was like David Bowie's Star Man.

The funny thing is that ET had b*gg*red TV reception in our area and having a 18 ft transmitting mast outside allowed others to have a go at me for sending interference to their homes.
Another incident involved Frank and Pete.

According to both their accounts, (as Frank was quite happy to retell me this word for word fifty years later) they were walking down the road as it was heavily raining. A man asked for road directions to another man as he pointed his finger down the road. Suddenly everything froze. Rain that had poured down the drain had froze like ice. I think (not sure) that a bird was frozen in mid flight?

The only difference was that Frank and Pete could still walk although everything was frozen. They must have been in this sate for a minute and then suddenly everything started moving again as if nothing had happened.

Going back to your point, I wonder whether this is how ET moves in our world?

A split second had moved in our time, but this was conjured in relative to space-time by which that split second lasted a minute.

Another example was when me and Julie were in this car park and were talking when this flash of light filled the car park for e a second.

I said:- "What was that????" By which Julie explained that she had seen nothing. Again over and over she proclaimed that she had seen nothing.

The strange part was that she seemed in a trance state? Eventually I said that she MUST have seen it. By which she came to, bewildered and told me that she HAD seen it, and that he was about to shout it out to me when a voice in her head hypnotised and told her to say nothing.

On further prompting she explained to me that this black object hovered in front of the car for a good length of time.
It appeared that we had lost time and I had just seen the flash left behind by the object disappearing.
It came about that Julie was due for a body scan after discovery of an atrial thrombosis in the vein leading from the kidneys to stomach. On the examination she had been cured as the result which was found on the ultra sound had vanished.

Another time related event was when we were pulled up at traffic lights with a gun after I had upset a drug gang at the adjacent petrol station. My reaction was to hit the gas pedal and run him over. Somehow we both woke up from a trance about 1000 yds away at the top of Canning Circus in a drifting dream state. we can remember what happened but our panic just subsided.

I just started at the man as he was pointing the gun to my head all calm. He seemed to look at me as if to think that I could not care if I lived or died.

He lowered his pistol. nodded in respect and let me pass. When we got to the top of Canning Circus, I asked Julie if there was a man who pointed a gun at me? By which she exclaimed:- "Oh my God!!"

For some reason ET wants me alive.

All this points to what they can do with time and hypnotism nd may relate to your point?

Regards

George
 
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SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Most are telepathic as well.
The Oz effect is when they effect the phasing of a person or persons to match theirs. This can create a scene where suddenly there is silence and where there was a crowded place one is alone. To someone standing by, you would be the one to have disappeared.
They place you into a setting that serves their purpose.
Telepathic influence of others nearby also is often implemented.
 

Georgek

George
Hmmmm....

On a wider scale I found that I lost time during a spirit conversation.

We have just purchased a terrace house not far from D.H Lawrence's birth place (about 4 minutes walk away.)

At the moment we are decorating as to rent it out. The house is over 100 years old and to tell you the truth, it is less haunted than our house that was built in 1984 Nr Newark. Our other house in Nuthall is very quiet.

Going back to the one in Eastwood, I did some EVPs upstairs whilst the girlfriend was tiding up downstairs.

I made the recording which lasted about 10 minutes and most of it seemed to be okay apart from a snippet which I will place on another thread.

I had to ask the girlfriend to confirm the strangeness of that recording.

In the bedroom upstairs I recollect asking them if they are well?

(the girlfriend says:- "How can they be well if they are dead?:wub8:)

Someone replied that they will come downstairs. It sounded a little like my voice but it was not. I cannot ever remember this reply hving been said!
Anyway....back to your post.

I am not sure how this fits in. I certainly had not noticed anyone disappearing?

Let me explain....

I was about eight years old and my mother had brought me a globe type pencil sharpener. Probably well before your time...lol

It was one of these die cat sharpeners with a metal Earth globe on the top. A novelty toy!

My pencils were as blunt as pokers and the wooden point was equally as soiled or blackened with dirt.

All that would happen was that the pencils would revolve in the sharpener, never touching the blade.

I tried each pencil in turn and placed the whole bunch of them clasped in my left hand holding the blunt points.

Then moaned at my mum for buying me a pencil sharpener that did not work.

Holding out my left hand, I released the clutch of the pencils to show my mother the blunt pencils, but each one had a perfectly sharpened point .

I dropped them all in shock...as I will never forget this for the rest of my life.

Picking up another blunt pencil, again the sharpener refused to sharpen it.

Even though I was only 8 years...a message seemed to be telling me, that it did not matter whether the pencil sharpener did not sharpen the pencils, as long as they were ready to write! It made the point of :- "What am I complaining about?"

It seemed to imply that one day I would write great words. Heck...I was stupid.


To this day, I often wondered how they did it?

I never disappeared even for a second, nor did my mother, but one thing I was absolutely certain 10,000% was that one second I had blunt pencils and then I had sharpened pencils.

The only thing that must have happened was if these spirits, guardians, ghosts, aliens or who ever they were, stopped time.
By which they could move about freely whilst we had froze. Only this way could they have spent a great deal of time with me whilst to us...just a split second of time.

Just my thoughts.

George







 

Georgek

George
Most are telepathic as well.
The Oz effect is when they effect the phasing of a person or persons to match theirs. This can create a scene where suddenly there is silence and where there was a crowded place one is alone. To someone standing by, you would be the one to have disappeared.
They place you into a setting that serves their purpose.
Telepathic influence of others nearby also is often implemented.
I hope to share with you what I had learnt.

Not saying that I know...I do not, but if anything will fit into your research that is good.

I do not have the answers but the answer must be there.

How they do it...beats me! I can only guess.
What I am explaining is just my guess work.

How accurate am I?

10,000% in what I am remembering ...lol
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I do not know what a tulpa is.

I have no ambition to pursue what I consider subjective subjects such asastral travel, telepathy or dreams, any further.


I am focusing only on actual event memories.

I am done with the rabbit hole of intuition and done experimenting with meditation and dreams... and done exploring telepathy.

I do not claim to know the answers, but I will tell only what I believe to be my original true 'alien' encounters and it will not have anything except what I believe to be my real and true person to person contacts. (IF THERE really IS SUCH A THING)
I got the impression when I read your book that it was just a collection of memories you put together, almost like a diary. You never tried to use any of it to prove a point or justify a scientific argument.

For some reason the thing that stands out in my mind the most is when you were describing a time the aliens were conducting experiments on you and allowed you to ask questions as they were doing so. You asked (as I would have) why, when they were doing the experiments, they didn't take the opportunity to fix anything that was wrong with you, like your blood pressure. They replied in a very cavalier way something to the effect of "that's not how it works". They also described how they were fascinated by us because we had come close to destroying ourselves yet managed to survive. They seem to be very nonchalant about a lot of important life or death situations.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
I got the impression when I read your book that it was just a collection of memories you put together, almost like a diary. You never tried to use any of it to prove a point or justify a scientific argument.

For some reason the thing that stands out in my mind the most is when you were describing a time the aliens were conducting experiments on you and allowed you to ask questions as they were doing so. You asked (as I would have) why, when they were doing the experiments, they didn't take the opportunity to fix anything that was wrong with you, like your blood pressure. They replied in a very cavalier way something to the effect of "that's not how it works". They also described how they were fascinated by us because we had come close to destroying ourselves yet managed to survive. They seem to be very nonchalant about a lot of important life or death situations.

YES INDEED.They did seem to have a cavalier attitude in that way, but they also exhibited some protective traits.
So I am not judging them. I was never sure I trusted them, but I was more curious than afraid, and I still feel that way, They didn’t explain enough to me for me to totally grasp their reasons or intentions. Ultimately, I am left to believe there isn’t much they wanted to do to help me. They only seemed want to study me. Near as I can sum it up, I am just a subject of their curiosity.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
Yes, however they did give you a helluva lot more interaction and even friendship than most. In fact, I really don't think your experiences lie within the same narrative as the classic abduction account. For most people, it is a one and done deal and the aliens have no interest in communicating with the abductee or forming any sort of relationship. Some, such as Travis Walton and the Hills, do have communication with them and receive some information about where the aliens come from and what they are doing. The closest account I have read to yours would be that of Whitley Strieber, and of course your account still has some key differences.
 
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