Battle of Los Angeles February 1942.

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
One popular thread on AU was the events that occured on the night of February 25, 1942 in Los Angeles.

Some of the known facts include the following

1) A Japanese submarine had shelled Long Beach two nights before.

2) A blackout when into effect at 0215

3) The 37th Coastal Artillery Brigade began firing at 0316 using 50 cal, 37mm and 3.9 inch anti-aircraft guns.

4) Firing ceased at 0414 after 1,440 rounds have been fired.

5) All clear was sounded at 0721.

There were reports that a weather balloon was launched and caused the firing.....and based on war nerves it is likely it could have caused some of the firing. Bear in mind the attack on Pearl Harbor had happened less than 3 months before. There were reports that a barrage balloon also broke loose from its moorings
also cause some of the firing.

Some claim the famous picture indicates there was an ETV being hit by anti-aircraft fire. However, the 3.9 inch rounds fired that night were timed rounds and seldom scored "direct hits.

Later in the war even with improved radar fire control and proximaty fuses it took nearly 1,000 rounds to take down a single enemy aircraft.

Basically the data gaps include the route the alleged UFO/ETV took, the weather that night, how many guns and the types fired and where the gun batteries were located.....this is just a start.

Lets see if this group can get some more information together.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I'd also like to add that due to the rate of fire of the weapons used during this event and the time the firing took place indicates a low and sporadic rate of fire.
 

3FEL9

Islander
WAs this the about the same time the japaneese released their explosive high altitude baloons towards the U.S
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Is it possible a prototype was launched in 1942...?
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I just wanted to post several images.....the first one was high rate of fire later in the war where you are only seeing 20% of the round. The remaining three are aircraft that took direct hits and didn't crash.

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Gambeir

Celestial
Not sure....I'd have to look into that.

But it was pretty much confirmed that they were launching weather balloons that night and it is also possible a barrage balloon got loose too.

There's a shill site called secret writers, however...they did mention that the UFO's could have been Japanese Balloon Bombs, which is quite probable.

No good quality image exist. These balloon bombs were quite large. About 39 feet in diameter, made of rice paper and glued with wheat paste glue, they could carry a total weight of 1,000 lbs. Though the bomb load was significantly less.
Fascinating devices actually.

Oregon Secretary of State: Bombs Fall on Oregon: Japanese Attacks on the State

threats-bombs-map.jpg


Attack of Japan’s Killer WWII Balloons, 70 Years Ago

Japanese Vengenance Balloon Bombs of World War II - J. David Rogers
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
There's a shill site called secret writers, however...they did mention that the UFO's could have been Japanese Balloon Bombs, which is quite probable.

No good quality image exist. These balloon bombs were quite large. About 39 feet in diameter, made of rice paper and glued with wheat paste glue, they could carry a total weight of 1,000 lbs. Though the bomb load was significantly less.
Fascinating devices actually.

Oregon Secretary of State: Bombs Fall on Oregon: Japanese Attacks on the State

threats-bombs-map.jpg


Attack of Japan’s Killer WWII Balloons, 70 Years Ago

Japanese Vengenance Balloon Bombs of World War II - J. David Rogers

Yes they were interesting devices....but the "Battle of LA" was in February 1942
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Here's something I recently read, quite interesting write-up, its a bit lengthy so I quoted only a small bit below...

The Battle Of Los Angeles: A Case Study

The Photograph

As events were unfolding, a reporter with the ‘Los Angeles Times’ newspaper would receive word that “something” was happening near Santa Monica. The reporter in question lived around twelve miles away, to the east of the location in the San Gabriel Valley area of the city. He immediately dressed and jumped into his car, making his way cautiously through the now blackened roads, unable to use his headlights in case he attracted the attention of the police, military, or the air raid wardens who would order him inside or arrest him.

He arrived close to his destination shortly after, settling near the Baldwin Hills. The reporter could clearly see the object caught in the collective glow of the several searchlights on it. He jumped out of his car, the guns sounding immediately louder as he did so, and pointed his camera at the scene above him. He snapped the picture shut, and by the 26th February, the image would run in the ‘Los Angeles Times’ newspaper. Millions of people around the world would study the picture over the years.

Does it show an alien craft withstanding an intense barrage of US military firepower? Although there have been accusations of “touching up” of the photograph, it is indeed a genuine image. These “touch-ups” are, in reality, simply changing of contrasts and such to provide the image with more clarity for newspaper print. As you can see from the image below. It certainly appears as though the reflective glow from a disc-shaped craft is clearly visible.

LA-UFO-Close-Up-700x556.jpg
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Two things I was aware of but one small thing put it in perspective. Actually, Dan Carlin did it for me in Hardcore History. His dad actually manned one of those AA guns. But the important context I got was that the Japanese sub that surfaced and shelled that California oil refinery in early 1942 had only done so less than two days before the big LA 'UFO battle'.

Bombardment of Ellwood - Wikipedia

Carlin was talking about asymmetric warfare and how fear can be a tremendous force multiplier. The whole west coast was already totally nuts over this and in that context, plus the fact that I believe the Army really did have weather balloons in the area at that time makes this more fear and itchy trigger fingers than ET.

Actually for those big AA guns I think it's your foot that would have to be itchy, but I digress
 

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
The person I know who knew Craigie and lived in LA during that period (I got to know her by asking her if she remembered the event), said she didn't see the objects but had a friend who did. her friend said they were basically saucers.
 
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