Teleportation

Ida G

Honorable
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In the book " Beyond the bermuda triangle" by Bruce Gernon and Rob McGregor, he tells about teleportation as an event that happens to some people now and then.
He had an experience himself teleporting safly without any damage. In theory it is told teleportation could kill a person since it copies the original person. ( i know too little about those theories )

Anyone here who has accomplished to teleport and survive, and how was it?
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
- If this thread should be another place then feel free to correct me. -

In the book " Beyond the bermuda triangle" by Bruce Gernon and Rob McGregor, he tells about teleportation as an event that happens to some people now and then.
He had an experience himself teleporting safly without any damage. In theory it is told teleportation could kill a person since it copies the original person. ( i know too little about those theories )

Anyone here who has accomplished to teleport and survive, and how was it?

*Sorry, this is long, In my mind, before I wrote this, It didn't seem that long, My bad.*

That depends on the kind of Teleportation that transpires. there is a litany of methods at least in theory. The common thought people have when envisioning teleportation is, The body enters one side of the teleportation device and is scanned, then reassembled on the other side at the molecular level, this includes a perfect copy of things like memory engrams Engram (neuropsychology) - Wikipedia. This form of teleportation involves a level of technology so sophisticated that a perfect copy of the person can be achieved and the person who originally stepped into the teleportation system is simply "disposed of" So the person stepping out on the other end, Although a Copy, Would have all the memories of the person who stepped in from the other side. It's not so much legitimate teleportation as it is a highly technological copy past.

That's the Star Trek iteration of teleportation. This on a small level has been achieved, In 2017, Scientists in China managed to teleport a photon to a satellite in Space. Beam me up? Scientists teleport first object ever from Earth into space

However, This was really the same ideology as I mentioned above, The waiting photon simply took on the Spin and properties of the original photon, "They copied the spin of a photon and applied it to another at a great distance. Ultimately, It was a feat of engineering, But it was a simple application of Quantum entanglements. However, There are other theoretical methods of transport that could be considered teleportation. for instance, If one can harness enough gravity to bend space-time, Which is a naturally occurring phenomenon, You can fold or bend space between two distances making a trip across great distances much shorter, in fact, you could in theory bend point a to point b and not even have to take a step, It would be like teleportation, Except instead of copying the body you would be folding literal space-time to shorten the distance. What is a Wormhole?

Then there is the ideology of Dimensional space and Time, A being from a higher dimension, See, In Theoretical physics, the model I study says there are eleven dimensions, Dimensions are strange because of the way they work, See, A Relation between dimensions is present, So, Let's say a sixth dimensional life form would literally be able to walk through space and time and easily go to 1612 France as easily as we go to the kitchen to heat up some cold taco bell. Never let anyone convince you Such a thing is impossible, There are literally countless theories of teleportation methods. for each Physical model, For Relativity, For Quantum Physics, For M theory. It's mathematically possible on paper.

I ask though, It's an ethical question If you step into a teleporter, and are teleported to the other side of the globe to see your family, Is that Copy of you, is that really you? Or did you experience Death and then this Copy goes on living as you in your place? , How does Bruce or Rob know, Without a doubt, That they are the original article and not a copy with all the memories of their predecessor? Would they even know? And, coupled with the theory that the original dies or is disposed of, What happens if the original escaped or was not destroyed? Who then, Is the original?
 
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Kchoo

At Peace.
To my knowledge, true teleportation is not a thing.

Astral Travel may include a type of ‘ portal effect’. But that is a very subjective area of discussion, and people have differing opinions as to what it is, how it works, and the danger in it.

The phenomenon of people experiencing something (like alien abduction). Is very subjective to the person experiencing it.

So I don’t think there is a solid method for establishing a verifiable teleportation. At least, I have never heard of a scientific experiment where it was confirmed.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
To my knowledge, true teleportation is not a thing.

Astral Travel may include a type of ‘ portal effect’. But that is a very subjective area of discussion, and people have differing opinions as to what it is, how it works, and the danger in it.

The phenomenon of people experiencing something (like alien abduction). Is very subjective to the person experiencing it.

So I don’t think there is a solid method for establishing a verifiable teleportation. At least, I have never heard of a scientific experiment where it was confirmed.

Beam me up? Scientists teleport first object ever from Earth into space Basically the teleportation of a single photon, While not on the same level as transporting an entire body, This pretty much proves such a thing could be possible. It's still a copy paste of the original. But, it's pretty much what the proposed teleportation is. I feel teleportation of larger masses will become possible when we possess the computation power to map and sort every atom of the body. Quantum computers, for instance, would be able to achieve this level of cartography of the body.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
Beam me up? Scientists teleport first object ever from Earth into space Basically the teleportation of a single photon, While not on the same level as transporting an entire body, This pretty much proves such a thing could be possible. It's still a copy paste of the original. But, it's pretty much what the proposed teleportation is. I feel teleportation of larger masses will become possible when we possess the computation power to map and sort every atom of the body. Quantum computers, for instance, would be able to achieve this level of cartography of the body.
A photon is not what I would call substantial teleportation. :Whistle:
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
Beam me up? Scientists teleport first object ever from Earth into space Basically the teleportation of a single photon, While not on the same level as transporting an entire body, This pretty much proves such a thing could be possible. It's still a copy paste of the original. But, it's pretty much what the proposed teleportation is. I feel teleportation of larger masses will become possible when we possess the computation power to map and sort every atom of the body. Quantum computers, for instance, would be able to achieve this level of cartography of the body.
A photon is not what I would call substantial teleportation. :Whistle:
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
A photon is not what I would call substantial teleportation. :Whistle:
And yet in every definition of the word, That photon was teleported. :Sneaky: But it is a long way off from teleporting a person, My message is, It's mathematically possible. To boot this,

A higher level of intelligence, Like a Kardashev Scale II civilization, would be able to achieve this. Kardashev scale - Wikipedia
 

Ida G

Honorable
I ask though, It's an ethical question If you step into a teleporter, (...)

Thank you for a great respond. I will read through the first part again later. There are much to dig into.
The problem with teleportation is transmission of harmful virus, bacteria and parasites. If we are able to teleport to another world we would probably die very soon of loss of oxygen or other problems related to the environment, or if it is a place possible to live in, we could bring harmful viruses with us and this could result in extinction of undiscovered plants, animals etc. on other planets.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Thank you for a great respond. I will read through the first part again later. There are much to dig into.
The problem with teleportation is transmission of harmful virus, bacteria and parasites. If we are able to teleport to another world we would probably die very soon of loss of oxygen or other problems related to the environment, or if it is a place possible to live in, we could bring harmful viruses with us and this could result in extinction of undiscovered plants, animals etc. on other planets.
here is an interesting read for you, This is still an experimental drug, But it was created for victims of catastrophic lung damage or stroke, There is a medication being currently tested that delivers oxygen to the organs by filtering the carbon dioxide in the bloodstream itself. Scientists Create an Oxygen Particle Allows You To Live Without Breathing Apparently, yes, It's possible to live without breathing. My guess would be, If someone is to travel to some unknown destination, They would be prepped with something like this Drug. According to research on this drug, a person could theoretically live without even having a beating heart.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
here is an interesting read for you, This is still an experimental drug, But it was created for victims of catastrophic lung damage or stroke, There is a medication being currently tested that delivers oxygen to the organs by filtering the carbon dioxide in the bloodstream itself. Scientists Create an Oxygen Particle Allows You To Live Without Breathing Apparently, yes, It's possible to live without breathing. My guess would be, If someone is to travel to some unknown destination, They would be prepped with something like this Drug.
Enter the intravenous blood oxygenation device for scuba. IBOD. Haha.

I would think that people would still need to exercise the lungs, so that would need to have a rebreather just to keep it natural.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Enter the intravenous blood oxygenation device for scuba. IBOD. Haha.

I would think that people would still need to exercise the lungs, so that would need to have a rebreather just to keep it natural.
My thinking is, It's not developed enough at the moment, I don't think it would be viable to completely replace breathing altogether, in fact, The person may not even be conscious when the drug is under effect. That is an older article though. I do feel though something as natural as breathing couldn't be so easily replaceable. Even if it works, It seems like something like that could ultimately damage a person, What happens when they become dependant on it and can not live without it because their respiration system becomes so weak or damaged? I could see that happening.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
I would sooner do IBOD than teleportation...l have to agree with Dr. McCoy from Star Trek on that one. Lol.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I would sooner do IBOD than teleportation...l have to agree with Dr. McCoy from Star Trek on that one. Lol.
No don't get me wrong, I was just going on about the possibility of teleportation, It's still a concept that's as scary as hell. I mean in one way or another successful teleportation equates to death for the original, Scary scary stuff brother.
 

Ida G

Honorable
Right. Drug and me is no good combination. If i get a headache I just put on hypnosis and think it away.
Thank you anyway. other people might like it, but I agree with you both when it comes to the consequenses of such miracle-drug.

I sometimes jog around a lake and wonder if it is possible to create aquatic respiration system by thinking of them. By teleporting to a place where time is different it would be possible to create special lungs on this planet, come back to earth and only be gone one minute cause of time paradoxes.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
On second thought, I don’t want to try IBOD either. I don’t like anything to mess with my blood.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Right. Drug and me is no good combination. If i get a headache I just put on hypnosis and think it away.
Thank you anyway. other people might like it, but I agree with you both when it comes to the consequenses of such miracle-drug.

I sometimes jog around a lake and wonder if it is possible to create aquatic respiration system by thinking of them. By teleporting to a place where time is different it would be possible to create special lungs on this planet, come back to earth and only be gone one minute cause of time paradoxes.
I could go on and on endlessly about Science, So much so I tend to bore people. I want to avoid boring people, and I'll just say. There are several methods for respiration. Some Turtles have a bladder they fill with oxygen and they separate from that, Not really a lung, but like a sack, they fill with air and the oxygen is slowly absorbed from this.

With that said, there are some things to consider, it's a fact that people can hold their breath much longer in cold water than warm water, This is because of the way the body regulates temperature How Long Can Humans Hold Their Breath? The current world record for holding one's breath under cold water is 24 munites, Women seem to be better at this than men.
Although she did hyperventilate after 24 minutes, Kachoo can confirm, This is longer than some Dives. However, those people are in peak human condition.
 

Ida G

Honorable
I made a hypnosis for me to get better lungs. it actually started to heal other problems in the body too. win win. so thank you for the inspiration.
Could be the body itself will start produce what is necessary for aquatic respiration.
you will know if it works. Then you can swim like a mermaid in a pond with goldfishes.
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Teleportation is achievable in many ways. But humans are yet to figure any of them out.
The mind IS capable of teleporting the body and can be done with psychic power. There are cases on record of this.
Mechanical teleportation can be done via a displacement from one space/time point to the other. Another is to convert matter into a form that can be transmitted. The conversion is forced and the matter will only remain in that state until energy effecting it is removed where by the object instantly returns to it's original state.
Of coarse the are others I am not aware of.
 
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