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Dean

Adept Dabbler
One of the comic-book elements of Lazar's 1989 account was that the purported captured spacecraft were powered by "element 115," an element that he claimed could not be synthesized on Earth. Since then element 115, moscovium (also known as ununpentium) has been synthesized, but the heaviest and most stable isotope synthesized (moscovium-290) has a half-life of only 0.65 seconds.

In my post above, I noted that Lazar's "United Nuclear" website sells T-shirts and coffee mugs that depict "Lazarium," which I said "is what Lazar calls element 115, which the rest of the world knows as moscovium." Looking today more closely at the United Nuclear catalog, I see that the term "Lazarium" is being applied by Lazar specifically to a hypothetical "stable isotope" of element 115, although no such stable isotope has actually been synthesized.

A worthwhile podcast by Stuart Robbins (Exposing PseudoAstronomy no. 133, June 2, 2015) focused on Lazar's various claims regarding Element 115. According to Robbins, "the predicted maximum stability of the most stable version, ununpentium-291, is only seconds." However, in a post above, Thomas R. Morrison (while making it clear that he rejects Lazar's story) wrote, "According to the macro-microscopic nuclear model used by the world’s leading superheavy elements research facility – the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research (JINR) in Dubna, Russia (which is how element 115 got the name Moscovium), the center of the island of stability is around the doubly magic nuclear number Z = 114 and N = 184, so the most stable isotope of element 115 is probably Moscovium-299, not 291. And according to the research director of the JINR, Dr. Yuri Oganessian, who’s widely considered to be the world’s leading researcher on this subject, isotopes near the center of the island of stability could have half-lives on the order of thousands or even millions of years . . ."

You will note that the "Lazarium" T-shirt and mug have incorporated this predicted stable atomic weight of 299.

The Robbins podcast can be heard at Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast - Shownotes Episode 133

A complete Robbins transcript: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast - Shownotes Episode 133
 

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nivek

As Above So Below
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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
One of the comic-book elements of Lazar's 1989 account was that the purported captured spacecraft were powered by "element 115," an element that he claimed could not be synthesized on Earth. Since then element 115, moscovium (also known as ununpentium) has been synthesized, but the heaviest and most stable isotope synthesized (moscovium-290) has a half-life of only 0.65 seconds.

In my post above, I noted that Lazar's "United Nuclear" website sells T-shirts and coffee mugs that depict "Lazarium," which I said "is what Lazar calls element 115, which the rest of the world knows as moscovium." Looking today more closely at the United Nuclear catalog, I see that the term "Lazarium" is being applied by Lazar specifically to a hypothetical "stable isotope" of element 115, although no such stable isotope has actually been synthesized.

A worthwhile podcast by Stuart Robbins (Exposing PseudoAstronomy no. 133, June 2, 2015) focused on Lazar's various claims regarding Element 115. According to Robbins, "the predicted maximum stability of the most stable version, ununpentium-291, is only seconds." However, in a post above, Thomas R. Morrison (while making it clear that he rejects Lazar's story) wrote, "According to the macro-microscopic nuclear model used by the world’s leading superheavy elements research facility – the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research (JINR) in Dubna, Russia (which is how element 115 got the name Moscovium), the center of the island of stability is around the doubly magic nuclear number Z = 114 and N = 184, so the most stable isotope of element 115 is probably Moscovium-299, not 291. And according to the research director of the JINR, Dr. Yuri Oganessian, who’s widely considered to be the world’s leading researcher on this subject, isotopes near the center of the island of stability could have half-lives on the order of thousands or even millions of years . . ."

You will note that the "Lazarium" T-shirt and mug have incorporated this predicted stable atomic weight of 299.

The Robbins podcast can be heard at Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast - Shownotes Episode 133

A complete Robbins transcript: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast - Shownotes Episode 133
No Sir, I debate this fully, moscovium Is, in fact, a synthetic element it is a synthesized variant of Element 115 which is properly called Ununpentium. synthetic elements do not belong on the periodic table, And I will debate this till the better end, Moscow did not discover 115. they have a different, hack meat periodic table that real science basically not only scoffs at But laughs at and calls it names. We can debate this or you can fold, But Moscovium is a synthetic, And it's not true 115. Moscovium not only has a completely different half-life than true 115 it has different properties, and the jury is still out in Russia on if it should be stricken from the table, Just because Russia wants credit for 115, Doesn't mean that's what happened. And it isn't.
 
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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I mean yeah, Moscovium is debatably a breakthrough, But to be on the periodic table, An element has to occur periodically in nature. Moscovium being a synthetic Never occurs periodically or naturally, It's made in a lab. It's more or less a metamaterial of sorts, It is important, It has its uses for study, It's just not true 115 and it doesn't belong on the periodic table is all.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell


People are so gullible when it comes to that fraud Lazar, I see his 'fans' lapping this program up today on social media...I bet he's scamming good money now riding off the coat tails of TTSA...

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nivek

As Above So Below
Is this true, did Lazar say this?...

 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
sounds like BS, otherwise there would be a lot more noise surrounding it
Would there though? I mean the guys pretty much a laughing stock even to the most hardcore paranormal circles.
I mean maybe it would make some kind of news. But really though, I think his fifteen minutes may be up. It's almost like if Paul Rubin came back to play pee wee Herman, Nobody would really care.

Come to think of it, It's exactly like that.

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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
This isn't Bob Lazar related and it can be moved, But here is This, I always find it important when ufology makes the official news.

 

nivek

As Above So Below
It's really saddening to me, I like the TTSA guys on twitter, man they are right on point with information and perspective of TTSA but damn, they just lap up every word the fraud Lazar says like it's gospel...It's really saddening to see that, they are so bamboozled by Lazar...

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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
It's really saddening to me, I like the TTSA guys on twitter, man they are right on point with information and perspective of TTSA but damn, they just lap up every word the fraud Lazar says like it's gospel...It's really saddening to see that, they are so bamboozled by Lazar...

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What I don't get about Lazar is, Everyone claims he's this great physicist, But, I'm not claiming to be a physics God or anything, But I at least have a reputation of an interest in physics, The thing Bob does is he talks about how great he is at physics and engineering and aerodynamics, But then he spouts nonsense words and says, Oh, That's what "we Call this principle," Well, Textbooks do not. People who learn from textbooks do not If I started speaking physics and began using words like, Cafliburlator and Snoughtourge model. How is that higher education when it's fabricated nonsense and the source would have been me? Then he goes into outright Science fiction, Stating things like Gravity A and Gravity B. Which is clearly his misinterpretation of strong and weak interaction, And clearly incorrect and he tries to assert that " Oh You guys, Just don't understand physics this complicated" He's not only a fraud, He's infuriating and a little insufferable.
 
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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
It's really saddening to me, I like the TTSA guys on twitter, man they are right on point with information and perspective of TTSA but damn, they just lap up every word the fraud Lazar says like it's gospel...It's really saddening to see that, they are so bamboozled by Lazar...

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yup they are also milking the recent "alien autopsy" bullshit for all its good
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Here's an article from last year by Joe Murgia, I don't know if it's been posted in this thread or not, but relevant and further casts Lazar as a fraud...

Eric Davis: “Lazar Made Up His Entire Cockamamie Story”

Eric Davis: “Nobody can put a particle accelerator in their home unless the house or their entire property is dozens of square miles in size.

“Element 115 first got synthesized by the Russians in 2003 and was internationally labeled and recognized as element 115 named Muscovium in Dec. 2015. Muscovium’s four isotopes have a half life ranging from 37 milliseconds to 650 milliseconds. So it is impossible for Lazar to have any Muscovite isotope in his house nor the gigantic particle accelerators that produced it via the collisions of other large atoms.

“Also, a Roadrunner (who ran programs at Area-51 for Los Alamos) told me that he knew Lazar’s female supervisor at Area-51 and had her pull up his personnel file. Lazar worked as a radiation health monitor in the unsecured logistics contractor facility outside of Area-51, so he was never inside that site, and he never held security clearances because he didn’t need them to work in an unclassified area. Lazar made up his entire cockamamie story about the UFO that he saw in a building inside Area-51. He was never exposed to any classified information, facilities, or programs in his work area.”

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Dean

Adept Dabbler
The thing Bob does is he talks about how great he is at physics and engineering and aerodynamics, But then he spouts nonsense words and says, Oh, That's what "we Call this principle," Well, Textbooks do not. People who learn from textbooks do not If I started speaking physics and began using words like, Cafliburlator and Snoughtourge model. How is that higher education when it's fabricated nonsense and the source would have been me? Then he goes into outright Science fiction, Stating things like Gravity A and Gravity B. Which is clearly his misinterpretation of strong and weak interaction, And clearly incorrect and he tries to assert that " Oh You guys, Just don't understand physics this complicated" He's not only a fraud, He's infuriating and a little insufferable.

Questioner to Lazar: Bob, the microwave frequency going to the waveguide [on spacecraft] is electromagnetic, or that's gravitational?

Lazar: They're one in the same.

Questioner: I don't understand what you mean by that.

Lazar: Gravity is -- unfortunately, physics hasn't gotten to that part yet -- but gravity essentially is part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Questioner: Then what frequency is it?

Lazar: That's something I'm reserving for myself.

Questioner: Something about the microwave range?

Lazar: Something about the microwave range. . .

-- from Lazar appearance recorded at "The Ultimate UFO Seminar," Rachel, Nevada, May 1, 1993

Bob Lazar at Ultimate UFO Seminar
 

Dean

Adept Dabbler
Is this true, did Lazar say this?...


I don't know what Lazar said on the Rogan show. But for those readers who are not familiar with Lazar's claims pertaining to Zeta Reticuli, here is a summary from the book Dreamland: Travels Inside the Secret World of Roswell and Area 51, by Phil Patton (Villard, 1998), p. 32:

Another dreamy effect is the strange alien book Lazar says he saw at S-4. Its pages were translucent, like a series of acetate layers, so that you could see into a house, X-ray style, from shingles to framing to chimney inside. He was allowed to read the book, which combined a history of the earth and a history of a planet in the star system Reticulum 4, where the saucers originated . .. Some 65 'genetic interventions' beginning in the epoch when men were still apes were described.​
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
More I learn about physics of UFOs, more Bob Lazar's claims confirm themselves.

As far as UFO physics is concerned, Lazar is so far 90% right on the money.
 
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