The AATIP and TTSA conspiracies that haven’t aged well

nivek

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He nailed this one fairly close, the false flag narrative has been spoken more lately IMO...

The AATIP and TTSA conspiracies that haven’t aged well

By: Andreas

Since at least the 1950s UFOs have been discredited, debunked and stigmatised as something only batshit crazy conspiracy theorists are interested in. Many have argued that there was a sustained effort from within governments to ensure the topic remained in the fringe and not the mainstream.

The mainstream media along with respected academia promoted the ideology that any UFO sighting could be explained away, conventionally. Project Bluebook ended the U.S. airforce interest in investigating the phenomena, they concluded there was nothing to UFOs.
In the meantime crazy extreme claims dominated Ufology, everything from alien space-brothers from Venus and the moon. So it was no surprise to see certain lower level Ufologists jump on the conspiracy bandwagon. Many of the claims amount to an extreme unverifiable way of trying to attack the credibility of what is being targeted.

At every step of the way the psy-op theorist and pseudoskeptics have had to move and adapt their claims with the emerging contradictory evidence.

Here are genuine claims that were made against TTSA and AATIP:


Tom Delonge doesn’t have contacts inside the pentagon

Tom Delonge never went to the Pentagon, White House or Area 51

Tom Delonge is being used for disinformation

TTSA are doing a scam on Ufologists

TTSA are nothing to do with AATIP

The videos were fake

All the videos were released to the public 10 years ago

The videos were drones

The videos were planes

The videos were birds

The videos weren’t released by the pentagon

Elizondo stole the videos under false pretences

The ‘Alien Alloys’ don’t exist

AATIP was never dealt with UAP

AATIP was never AATIP but AAWSAP instead

AATIP was Aviation and not Aerospace

Elizondo wasn’t involved with AATIP

Elizondo wasn’t the AATIP Director

The AATIP initiative was a CIA backed psy-op

AATIP is a precursor for an ‘Alien False Flag’ to kill billions

AATIP is a precursor to ensure ‘Aliens’ are a threat to national security

The Navy revelations were a staged PR stunt for the TTSA documentary

Congress hasn’t been briefed on UAP by a AATIP/TTSA backed initiative

Congressional hearings are a CIA backed ploy to engage the mainstream media to eliminate the extraterrestrial hypothesis



Reading this you may be shocked by the list, but all on the list above have been claimed over the last 18 months. All of which as you may expect have been heavily debunked via numerous sources.

Each time the claim is debunked a new set of claims are made, the goal Post is moved and the next wave begins. This has been the pattern, over and over. Even stranger, these claims come from UFO believers.

Something tells me this list will grow.

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nivek

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The threat narrative continues to be promoted, Greer is even saying the 'I told you so' lol, I don't buy into it though...UFOs may be a threat or they may not be, we don't know yet but its healthy to keep those possibilities open until we have more knowledge about them...Those in the know may already have this answer and are slowly disclosing it to the public and these wild conspiracy theories are doing nothing more than to muddy the waters more...

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I heard the new skeptical hypothesis is that the east coast sightings were "radar reflective balloons", or something like that. Some are trying to put the Nimitz ones into that basket too.
 

nivek

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I heard the new skeptical hypothesis is that the east coast sightings were "radar reflective balloons", or something like that. Some are trying to put the Nimitz ones into that basket too.

Yeah I saw some of that coming from Mick West too, but it seems they're disregarding the pilot and witness accounts...

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nivek

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Gotta love that after all this were back to "balloons" yet again as an explanation. Is swamp gas going to be brought up next?

I know right, the skeptics have pulled the ole balloon theory out their arses lol...To make it smell like roses adding in the new threat narrative conspiracy lol...

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good comment on twitter: "You mean to tell me that some skeptics analyzing a compressed YouTube video can figure it out as a jet but professional video analysts working for the navy/Air Force can’t?"
 
Another point is that same looking objects were apparently observed multiple times by multiple different pilots on a 9 month period. They were all of them fooled by a bunch of balloons, all the time?
 
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nivek

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Another point is that same looking objects were apparently observed multiple times by multiple different pilots on a 9 month period. They were all of them fooled by a bunch of balloons, all the time?

That's a great point I haven't heard stated yet, how could everyone who observed these ufos be fooled by balloons over months and months, you would think they could figure that it out early on and move on, if that were the case lol...

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