Shadowprophet
Truthiness
It's as nonfictional as any book that a plumber from Plympton in Devon who claimed that his body hosted the spirit of a Tibetan lama going by the name of Tuesday Lobsang Rampa Can be. Asserting that it is non-fiction undermines that is not a work of fact. It's the work of a man who thought he was hosting a deity in his body.
Taken from the book 'The Hermit' None fiction by T.Lobsang Rampa
I assume this to be okay material wise?
George
A religious Club. Don't get me wrong George, I have no issue with the information, But there is a lot about this man that is considered occultist, Lobsang Rampa - Wikipedia Which only makes it nonfiction because of some whackadoo thinking he was God. The source of the information here at heart hinges on how much the reader believes that Cyril Henrey Hoskin Was really Lobsang Rampa, This is something that is left to interpretation But I Hesitate to designate information like that as factual. And anyone could be Snarky and say well shadow that's you, I believe that Wackadoo. To that I say, People can spend their intelligence in better places than cultish wackadoos.
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Shadowprophet
Truthiness
It does make me think though, throughout history, Lots of people have claimed to be in contact with Beings or even just UFO's. Not entirely an uncommon claim.
Georgek
George
Hello Shadowprophet,
I will try and stick within the constraints of your post
For those who do not know anything about T.Lobsang Rampa..let us firstly say that he states that all his books are true.
This puts his works in the non fictional category and although personal views are a matter of opinion, it separates between what he says is true and what others interpret as true.
Moving on from there, T.Lobsang Rampa was a cult legendary of the 1970s and I ...together with many others...grew up with him. Most of my own philosophies have stemmed from his books. In actual fact, I had read every one of his books twice over.
His first book 'The Third Eye' was legendary. Obviously you have done your research and may even have read some of his books? I will tackle the points in numbers...
1) T. Lobsang Rampa is not his real name as he admits in all his books. He also talks about a spiritual transmigration whereby the body of Cyril Henry Hopkins had been taken over by his own soul. Whether we believe in transmigration is one's personal belief.
transmigration - Dictionary Definition
If we look at transmigration (and I apologise to 'nivek' here) the same process had been applied with some great entities.
Jesus and The Christ are considered different to most biblical scholars similar to Saul and Paul on the road to Damascus (okay enough said about that) The argument follows that a great entity will not waste time occupying a body from birth and will later move into that body at a later stage. Whether we believe that, is opinionated. Paranormal history is littered with such incidents. For example Joan of Arc a man in a woman's body?
2) The next point I would like to put is based on my experience. Tell me which great entity has ever stood the test of time?
Every single psychic, prophet or seer had been demoralised by this generation of sceptics. It does not matter how many times they had shown success, they get trodden at the end. Everyone is crucified. Take Derek Acorah, David Ike, Colin Fry, Sally Morgan, Dr Armen Victorian all those I had encounter apart from David Ike. It usually happens when they are dead and no longer can stick up for themselves. It even happens with politicians especially with the Dynasty in the past. Back then, they were more civilised...they just chopped their heads off when they had no further use for them. Even Uri Geller who had proven his ability live on TV is still a suspect. If that is not convincing look at myself? I spend years performing Remote Sensing and one day, I will make a mistake and my whole world will come tumbling down. I spent years showing people the power of the mind and I doubt if one or two are convinced?
Generally becauseI get something correct...they go quiet. Nothing...silence and you think the whole lot are dead?
I got ONE incorrect. I don't know what happened...it just went wrong. Suddenly 100 of them pop up from nowhere. You think:- "Who the heck is that?" They take it in turns to demoralise, insult, say that you are a liar and even call you mad.
The point that I a m making Shadowprophet....is pretty much similar to discussions that take place on this forum. Members have already made up their minds what to believe based on their upbringing and way of preconceived thinking. You can even change iron into gold and they will not accept it. This is why I have given up on live readings and just use past data which is date stamped. One thing often put to me, is why me? What do UFOs find interesting about me? They told me that my mind was young and had not been filled with the dross of society. Most nights they would enter my head, teaching me. Even now I am amicable and can change. It is that versatility that allows change. I listen to others, as I listen to you. People say that they are open minded. They are not. Instead of asking why? I ask why not? If I saw my printer rotate upside down and then to rotate back again I accept it. Then I want to know why? If you told me that you just came back from Mars (and were serious) I would believe you unless shown otherwise. This is open mindedness.
3) Moving onto T. Lobsang Rampa, the press really had a go at him and dislike worked both ways.
4) I grew up with T.Lobsang Rampa and during the 1970s, I was trying to put my own UFO experiences into perspective .Lobsand Rampa often talks about UFOs being spiritual and I too found this to be correct by my own experiences. He also points to them as being The Gardeners. Which is true. UFOs have a great curiosity with airports, military, power stations and all these things connected with our survival. It draws parallels and juxtaposes what we know now and the theme of his books. He points mainly towards our spirituality and evolution and relates to our whole 'being' as permanent whilst our physical bodies are just a temporary measure.
5) He also points to the great possibility that UFOs are Earth bound and have been with us long before biblical times. Expressing views on reincarnation and the ancient gods with parallels toward our religious concepts. That does not mean that other planets are not populated?Whatever we may think of T. Lobsang Rampa, let us not forget his philosophies. Much of which he talks about Elementals which is also part of my email address.
6) I personally found T.Lobsang Rampa very close to my own phenomenon . I even wrote to him and sent some of my pictures by which he replied.
7) He never ever said that he was God. As already false information is coming across. I have read every one of his books and I challenge anyone to show me where he had said that?
If you can misconstrue information (quite innocently) imagine how inaccurate all these conflicting points can be? Already he never made out that he was a plumber from Plympton. He quite clearly stated that he had taken over another body by which the previous occupant did not want.
8) Finally I agree...his books are quite whacko. So is this subject to most people. Years ago you would have been considered mad to have spotted a UFO. My point is Shadowprophet, is do you know 'The Bigger Picture'??
All you are doing is 'touching the surface' of this UFO thing. It goes DEEP. With all respect we all have countless discussions on what these UFOs are, how they are propelled and who are the aliens?
You all see within your limitations and have no idea what is up there . But still trying to work them out with our puny brains and logic. We will never do it. If we sort one thing out, another comes along. I cannot work them out. I would even gamble that they are zooming into you right now as I write this post. They probably already know your life story and even how long you ill live via the akashic record.
Regards
George
Georgek
George
Hello mate,
Yep.
I honestly endorse this. With 100% certainty, once they had contacted you, it is usually a life long relationship. I did not mean it to be so.
Perhaps they found me before I found them?
My mate had a sensor drop out of his ear after fifty odd years with our contact with UFOs .
He has never ever lied to me. I may even have one?
One thing is that we do have this over zealous flare.
I personally cannot stop. Driven without knowing where to?
Years ago I was a quite lowly spoken.
I can now stand in front of ten thousand people and give a talk. As one day I will!
People ask why the heck should UFOs be wasting their time with a dow-dow like me?
My work has been on prime American television (I will show this later) and I have actually been paid thousands of pounds for my material already in books, magazines and television.
If I could sell my very soul and buy it back to convince others of my authenticity, I would!
As no matter how I try, I cannot make others believe me. I am not perfect...far from it, but I lead a clean life and am as sane as hmmmm? (who is sane?)
The best evidence I can show anyone regarding my interaction with Beings is my Cyprus photograph.
George
Rick Hunter
Celestial
Those pages you posted remind me alot of what little I have read of the Urantia Book.
Georgek
George
Hello Rick,
This is the general criterion of UFO reality as far as I am concerned.
It begins to explain the reason why UFOs are here. Nearly every concept fits in.
From the Star of Bethlehem and the reason why UFOs will not reveal themselves to us.
It is my opinion that a good 95% of UFOs sighted are Earth oriented.
I think the extra terrestrial who come here are waned:-
"Welcome to the lunatic asylum...pass through quietly!"
nivek
As Above So Below
Decades ago when we (humanity) started detonating nukes in our air, ground, and oceans I think we gained a lot of attention and interest from alien species not just in our universe but other places...Before that I figure any extraterrestrial visitors to earth would likely originate from planets in our local region finding us by happen chance from scouting this local region or something...lol
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Georgek
George
I am just wondering 'nivek'....
How do these aliens get into my bedroom and house without ever seeing them land?
I will be honest with you...I have no idea?
It shows materialism and 'nuts and bolts' to a degree because object move and photographs are taken.
I thought about time slips and possibly an overlapping dimension but these do not make sense.
My impression is that the physical universe is dead of physical life.
We send SETI signals and get nothing back out of the whole cosmos.
If we take our planet as the base of life's existence, other planets have to be the same positions in other solar systems for correct temperatures and atmospheres.
The planets have to be 'spot on' like ours.
It is like going into a stone pit finding two
stones the same.
I wrote about my dictation machine running whilst i had lost time in my bedroom back in 2013.
Could hear the craft in the recording, but if it had of landed, the neighbours would have seen something?
How do these aliens get into my bedroom and house without ever seeing them land?
I will be honest with you...I have no idea?
It shows materialism and 'nuts and bolts' to a degree because object move and photographs are taken.
I thought about time slips and possibly an overlapping dimension but these do not make sense.
My impression is that the physical universe is dead of physical life.
We send SETI signals and get nothing back out of the whole cosmos.
If we take our planet as the base of life's existence, other planets have to be the same positions in other solar systems for correct temperatures and atmospheres.
The planets have to be 'spot on' like ours.
It is like going into a stone pit finding two
stones the same.
I wrote about my dictation machine running whilst i had lost time in my bedroom back in 2013.
Could hear the craft in the recording, but if it had of landed, the neighbours would have seen something?
Rick Hunter
Celestial
I believe the visitors have learned to manipulate two facts. All matter is composed of energy, therefore it is not out of the question for one form of energy to be able to pass through or into another. All that is needed is the means to make it happen, which they have. Second, not only do other plane or dimensions of existence exist, but they are not separated by time and distance. Time and distance only apply within one particular plane or dimension, not between planes. One can certainly pass from one plane or dimension of existence to another instantaneously and without using any time or distance within the plane he currently stands in. It seems likely that the visitors have found technological means to perform these feats, whereas we on planet Earth only have spiritual means, i.e. astral travel and the like.
nivek
As Above So Below
Just giving my thoughts on the subject George, nothing more...I cannot speak of your 'alleged' claims without more information...Curious, why does my name need ' '?...
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Given the ubiquity of Earth-like conditions throughout the universe, the opposite assumption would appear to be most likely: that the universe is teeming with life.
SETI doesn't send signals; it only listens. And radio signals quickly dissipate at interstellar distances: if there were a SETI program with the same capabilities that we have today at the nearest star system, Alpha/Beta Centauri, it would be unable to detect any of our radio or television signals.
And given that our own "noisy" radio-signal era is already abating after only a century, and being replaced with cable and directed low-power satellite transmissions, it would seem that radio detection is a very unlikely method of detecting a technological civilization - the radio era doesn't last long enough to be useful in the search.
And finally, we've only broadcast one or two directed radio transmissions into space for the purpose of communication with alien life. Other civilizations would probably follow a similar pattern, since announcing your presence is a pretty bad/risky idea in the first place - especially for a primitive civilization like ours that hasn't even achieved interstellar spaceflight yet.
There's no reason to leap to that conclusion: any planet in the Habitable Zone (HZ) of 1-3 Earth-masses which orbits a Sun-like star (which are ubiquitous) would have a good chance of undergoing the evolution of life, since we know that amino acids and water are common everywhere. Even the core composition of other rocky worlds is likely to mimic the Earth's, and also have a magnetic field, according to a recent study by the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.
It's unlikely that the craft would land. And I've heard many accounts of craft that exhibit invisibility technology. Even human science has made significant strides with invisibility physics in recent years.
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Georgek
George
Hi Thomas,
Yes....SETI does only receive. I thought perhaps it may also be bouncing signals back?
I take your points and very thought provoking.
George
Georgek
George
It is very difficult to work them out.
From my experience, I had just learnt to accept that I will never understand them.
I know what they can do, and for the life of me cannot work out how?
Rick Hunter
Celestial
Honestly, you are making a large contribution to Ufology by documenting and sharing your experiences. And I thank you for it!
Spaceman spiff
Noble
I think SETI themselves said they scan only a small percentage of everything, so its a needle in a country of haystacks search. And as i recall someone there said those radio signals will slowly deteriorate and get lost in the cosmic background at some point. As far as i understand it, for there to be an alien intelligence using radio signals and them reaching Earth, it would have to be in existance at an approximately same time window technologically as ours(which could be very brief), be relatively near us, find our solar system through light lag and detect that Earth has a technological civilization(which we have only had a very short time), have an intrest in contacting us, have to focus that signal to our star and not have anyone or anything interfere with those signals, which seems like a nil chance. No wonder they dont hear anything.
Another point some people like to use in "proving" the universe devoid of higher civilizations is that study that searched for waste heat signatures from astro engineering from thousands of galaxies and came up empty... But its only an assumption of what a highly developed civilization would use, like Dyson Spheres, which may just be highly speculative scifi ideas. Its possible theyre not even feasible to build or civilizations come up with something more efficient, which in turn means there would be less of those signs since it wouldnt be necessary to build them.
So advanced civilizations may not leave huge obvious marks around the universe for others to notice, it may infact be the opposite, they become more efficient and less visible.
People always wonder why dont we pick anything, well maybe cause the search hasnt even really begun yet or has been so miniscule that it has barely scratched the surface. We have only scanned the skies for such a minimal time and with such a minimal resources. Its possible that theres alien civilizations and signals out there but we simply havent or even cant detect them with our current technological capabilities. Its hard to find things when in essence youre both blind and deaf, for the time being at least.
One thing is for certain, at this point no one should jump the gun and claim to have definate answers, its very premature.
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nivek
As Above So Below
Many advanced races may intentionally try to be as stealthy as possible, especially for their means of transportation because of dangers we do not know about yet...They may see the wisdom in not broadcasting themselves, making themselves known to unknown others...I think it very wise as well, sending out signals to other star systems and worlds telling them all about us is playing a very dangerous game in my opinion...
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I think it's very telling that we've only intentionally broadcast a transmission intended for the stars once, maybe twice in our history, and the transmission beam was narrow and brief.
If we have the good sense to opt against broadcasting our presence to other technological civilizations, then it's probably safe to assume that other intelligent life forms would be similarly cautious about it.
But SETI is counting on other civilizations blaring out some extremely powerful transmission in all directions, long enough for a civilization like ours to pick it up.
Ergo, SETI is predicated on faulty logic and wishful thinking: we shouldn't expect others to be doing what we ourselves are so clearly reluctant to do.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
If intelligent life is that prevalent (and I think it likely is) and we've only been listening a relatively short time in limited areas then there is still a good chance that someone out there's making noise and we just haven't picked up on it. We've only been noticeable for a little over a century or so - some alien SETI program could've been focused on our neighborhood for millennia and never heard a peep.
Passively scanning seems harmless enough.
Yep - but it's also important to bear in mind that if they have a SETI program at Alpha Centauri of the same sensitivity/resolution as our SETI program, then they wouldn't be able to resolve any of our signal transmissions because they're way too weak. And that's the nearest star in our neighborhood.
Sure, it's harmless to listen. But it also seems rather silly and pointless, given that alien craft are fairly routinely operating in our own airspace: if they wanted to talk to us they could've dropped off a note decades ago.