Will be releasing exact method of UFO propulsion very soon.

Dejan Corovic · Jul 18, 2019

Shadowprophet said:
I've never heard the story where the abductee found themselves in the engine room.. So I'm beginning to think they don't have conventional engines as we would normally imagine.

Exactly!!! Well observed. When Travis Walton turned corner and entered a second bigger room, right in the center of the craft, room was actually a guidance room, just a chair and joystick. Center would be the most logical place to put reactor or engine. Indirect thinking, like yours, can notice that engines are almost never mentioned by visitors of UFO's inside.

Shadowprophet · Jul 18, 2019

Dejan Corovic said:
This is how it works. Gravity is a process very similar to thermodynamics processes. When one flips nuclei, in and out of alignment with magnetic/electric field, he "cools" gravity down to near-zero or zero gravity. Object looses weight and inertia. Basically whole thing works like a gravitational equivalent of a refrigerator. There are magnetic fridges that work on resonance, tested long time ago in various universities. Google "adiabatic magnetic cooling".

I believe Fully that Gravity is an electromagnetic force. But I'm not sure that's been empirically proven.
Still. I do like your theory, And, To be truthful. We know they are there, and we know they are getting from A to B somehow.

A+ on your theory it's better than mine lol

Dejan Corovic · Jul 18, 2019

Shadowprophet said:
I believe Fully that Gravity is an electromagnetic force.

Exactly. That is how "other guy" explains the things. He says that gravity is created by virtual electro-magnetic particles that pop in-and-out of existence. Their distribution, according to him, is similar to heat in thermodynamics. But that is on a deep end.

Shadowprophet · Jul 18, 2019

Dejan Corovic said:
Exactly. That is how "other guy" explains the things. He says that gravity is created by virtual electro-magnetic particles that pop in-and-out of existence. Their distribution, according to him, is similar to heat in thermodynamics. But that is on a deep end.

I just had this other thought, The force propelling these craft could not be a physical force like ions, consider how fast they move, there have been stories of people really close to these craft when they jolted away, not even the wind blew, if the force pushing or pulling these craft was any kind of physical particle, the propulsion alone would destroy someone and much of the surrounding area when it took off.. So it must be some nonphysical force, like magnetism.

Or some convoluted technology that contorts density

Dejan Corovic · Jul 18, 2019

Shadowprophet said:
I just had this other thought, The force propelling these craft could not be a physical force like ions, consider how fast they move, there have been stories of people really close to these craft when they jolted away, not even the wind blew, if the force pushing or pulling these craft was any kind of physical particle, the propulsion alone would destroy someone and much of the surrounding area when it took off.. So it must be some nonphysical force, like magnetism.

Or some convoluted technology that contorts density

Adiabatic mass cooling removes mass. Than you can just sit a cherub on the UFO's ledge and he can blow it out of his lungs to supersonic speeds. Ok, with some poetic license.

Kchoo · Jul 18, 2019

So, three microwave emitters, three iron magnets, one central core, and now you have a resonant device that can be phased to propel vehicle in any direction, simply by moving the core slightly to offset the levitation effect for a directional ‘thrust’ effect, scooting around on the very fabric of space itself.

If one emitter is out of phase at all, the thing will make annoying sounds, and thrust is dramatically decreased, The result can be catastrophic, causing a Meltdown of the core.

The thing must stay perfectly synchronized to remain stable, so there is a problem to overcome with core stability during thrust effect. Careful sunchronization of the adjuster algorithm to control and keep a balanced core could be very difficult.

Dejan Corovic · Jul 18, 2019

Kchoo said:
So, three microwave emitters, three iron magnets, one central core, and now you have a resonant device that can be phased to propel vehicle in any direction, simply by moving the core slightly to offset the levitation effect for a directional ‘thrust’ effect, scooting around on the very fabric of space itself.

It's like a Zeppelin. It can just go up or down. One has to have some secondary source of thrust, jet engine, rocket motor, hot air exaust, plasma drive etc. and once you reduce gravitational / inertial mass to near-zero or zero, these secondary sources can move it to an unlimited speed. Say, average fighter plane weighs about 15 tons and jet engines usually have about 15 tons of thrust. That's called 1:1 thrust - weight ratio. But if your craft was only weighing, say, 1 gram, than trust to weight ratio would be 15,000,000:1 and aeroplanes would move much faster.

It's actually not my theory, but somebody else's. But for me, it fits the electromagnetic data that was observed by witnesses and measured by scientific instruments. And it fits a recent trend in science to equate gravity with thermodynamic, which I liked from the moment I heard about it 4 years ago.

Actually, it comes to my mind that UK military tested a similar device in Australian desert and they run it on an electric generator made from an old Volkswagen Beetle engine.

Kchoo · Jul 18, 2019

Dejan Corovic said:
It's like a Zeppelin. It can just go up or down. One has to have some secondary source of thrust, jet engine, rocket motor, hot air exaust, plasma drive etc. and once you reduce gravitational / inertial mass to near-zero or zero, these secondary sources can move it to an unlimited speed. Say, average fighter plane weighs about 15 tons and jet engines usually have about 15 tons of thrust. That's called 1:1 thrust - weight ratio. But if your craft was only weighing, say, 1 gram, than trust to weight ratio would be 15,000:1 and aeroplanes would move much faster.

It's actually not my theory, but somebody else's. But for me, it fits the electromagnetic data that was observed by witnesses and measured by scientific instruments. And it fits a recent trend in science to equate gravity with thermodynamic, which I liked from the moment I heard about it 4 years ago.

Actually, it comes to my mind that UK military tested a similar device in Australian desert and they run it on an electric generator made from an old Volkswagen Beetle engine.

I’m sold... but I don’t have any money to help.

Shadowprophet · Jul 18, 2019

Kchoo said:
I’m sold... but I don’t have any money to help.

It's okay, We all use gold-pressed latnium now anyway.

Kchoo · Jul 18, 2019

Shadowprophet said:
It's okay, We all use gold-pressed latnium now anyway.

Of course, you know that with Hutchison effect, Latium can now be synthesized....

Kchoo · Jul 18, 2019

So my theory is that once you get the parameters right, a core can become stable at a zero point state.... meaning, it will not need or accept any infussion of energy, and becomes neutral to the physical... but as it is now near impossible to contain or control, it just simply exists in a neutral fixed position in space time, and space time just simply moves through it and around it.

Dejan Corovic · Jul 18, 2019

spacecase0 said:
and I totally agree on the point that you don't need fancy materials to pull it off. none of the theories show fancy materials needed.

That was my belief from the day one. I thought, look there is 14,000 years of civilization behind us. We had accumulated an astronomical amount of knowledge during this time. Particularly in the last 250 or so years. If religion was not holding us back in a stupid corner, we would have reached even further.

Maybe they use metamaterials or metals so pure that they can only be made in microgravity. But basic experiment can always be done on room temperature, under standard atmospheric pressure. Any result above, say 3-5 times the noise level would be warranty further investment of time and money.

I've actually got some free open-source software that can design electromagnets, called FEMM 4.2. The main thing is to have very, very even field right in the gap of the letter C. If magnetic field strength is not uniform, or is granular, than that means that Larmor's nuclei precession will vary and that means that some atoms will take part in flipping and some will not. So one gets reduced percentage of atoms helping you.

People use Helmholtz coils a lot when they want to achieve even field in the gap's middle. But Helmholtz coils produce very weak magnetic fields, barely 0.075 Tesla, which is not strong enough to string up Aluminum atoms in a nice file. So electro-magnets are the next notch up in terms of evenness. But even if we use copper-iron coils, it would be nice to cool them down with say cold air or even liquid Nitrogen. That would result in longer relaxation time for nuclei and thus stronger confirmation signal.

Do you have your own microwave lab? What kind of setup do you have?

pigfarmer · Jul 18, 2019

Shadowprophet said:
It's okay, We all use gold-pressed latnium now anyway.

I still have some left but blew a lot of it on a case of self-sealing stembolts. Waiting for the market to turn on those .... might take two or three hundred years though

nivek · Jul 18, 2019

pigfarmer said:
I still have some left but blew a lot of it on a case of self-sealing stembolts. Waiting for the market to turn on those .... might take two or three hundred years though
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pigfarmer · Jul 18, 2019

nivek said:
Love seeing the rotary style phone sitting there!...

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Thanks - I actually still use it. Just out of frame is a 1938 compact with a separate subset and a a rotary single slot payphone. Got the 1970 Harvest Gold plastic wheel rotary wall set in the yellow kitchen and a 1961 metal wheel wall set in the garage. Explaining them to my 11 year old nephew (at the time) was met with a number of truly incredulous looks.

Hijacking again. Sorry Dejan

spacecase0 · Jul 18, 2019

Dejan Corovic said:
Do you have your own microwave lab? What kind of setup do you have?

I ran a test with some of what you say, but did not put any aluminum inside it.
I have a magnetic coil that is a bit over 18 inches inside that gets me 0.006T if plugged direct into the wall outlet (yes I convert it to DC first), it can do about 4 times that output, but for limited times, and I need more power than my wall outlets are wired for.
I also tried very strong permanent magnets.
frequency was in the 230MHz range at about 35W, driven into a circularly polarized antenna, so it made the proper spinning field
just never thought to put things inside it other than the scale I was checking weight changes for.

the NMR does change frequency with your magnetic field strength
and if that is what I am going for, it is not hard to find the range it should be in and go hunt for resonance.

I don't really have a microwave lab, especially the receiving part, I can only go listening to things under 1GHz,
as far as transmit, not to many places legal (or a good idea) to transmit. so I would change the magnetic field to adjust things.
I can transmit in the 70 CM band at 35W (not sure this is high enough frequency), and 33CM at 5W
2.4GHz is easy to transmit as I do have microwave oven parts.
past that I can build things.
I have been wanting to build a larger magnetic coil, specifically a homopolar generator that has the voltage output running the magnetic coil that excites the generator. in theory you can get an infinite magnetic field with a finite current in that setup.
obtaining an aluminum disk large enough and thick enough is the real stopping point for me there. and my 18" version is not self sustaining, so my internal resistances are to high. suppose I need to enclose the disk and use a mercury contact on the outer edge.

the other option for creating large magnetic fields is to physically move an electrostatically charged item.
this is how I got what I had fork to start with to do what it did, and might be the way to go.

someone asked if there was proof of gravity and magnetic fields, or some such phrasing..
go look at the tests of William Hooper
my lesson here is that there are 2 separate things we see showing up as voltage, and that is what was going on in my test setup.
they can add up oppositely and read zero on a meter, and this is what we almost get with the gravity of earth.

Thomas R. Morrison · Jul 18, 2019

Dejan Corovic said:
It's not a theory. It had been experimentally confirmed twice, by Hutchinson and by this other guy. I just want to get some investment to experimentally confirm it third time.

This is actual footage by John Hutchison showing a toy being "levitated" by the famed "Hutchison effect." Unfortunately, the effect consists of a thin string (seen in the upper left-hand corner of the frame) which lifts the object:

Subsequent analyses revealed that Hutchison had employed upside-down stages being filmed by upside-down cameras to create films of objects and fluids appearing to float upward (which were actually just falling downward).

More on the Hutchison fraud: Ace Baker's 9/11 Research - WMD at the WTC: John Hutchison is a Fraud

I assume that "this other guy" you're talking about here is the late Dr. Frederick Alzofon.

CasualBystander · Jul 18, 2019

Thomas R. Morrison said:
This is actual footage by John Hutchison showing a toy being "levitated" by the famed "Hutchison effect." Unfortunately, the effect consists of a thin string (seen in the upper left-hand corner of the frame) which lifts the object:

Subsequent analyses revealed that Hutchison had employed upside-down stages being filmed by upside-down cameras to create films of objects and fluids appearing to float upward (which were actually just falling downward).

More on the Hutchison fraud: Ace Baker's 9/11 Research - WMD at the WTC: John Hutchison is a Fraud

I assume that "this other guy" you're talking about here is the late Dr. Frederick Alzofon.

So?

Why wouldn't a bigger string work for a bigger UFO?

CasualBystander · Jul 19, 2019

Dejan Corovic said:
After 4 years of methodical pouring through papers written by many professional scientists who worked on UFOs and the electro-magnetic data left behind UFOs I finally found out how UFO propulsion works. Propulsion method had been technologically feasible since late 1940s and it doesn't need metamaterials. Relatively speaking, method is very low tech, depending on what technical skills one has. It's just a combination of existing technologies that had been in a everyday use for 50-70 years. I am about 90% certain, 10% is uncertain.

One part is unexplained Hutchison effect, the other part will be revealed soon. As far as I can tell, method is not in conflict with any existing scientific theory, it just slightly modifies general relativity. Broadly speaking, method is based around enthropic approach to gravity, which had been recently popular among mainstream scientists, like Eric Verlinde, for some time. Watch this space.

Method can be experimentally proven in a modestly equipped electronics lab, for less $100,000 in six to nine months. Experiment trumps theory and experimental results can not be disputed. That's the beauty of experimental proof. Importantly, method can not be patented, but there will be tens and hundreds of opportunities for spin-off patents. So there is both commercial and scientific future to the project.

I worked over last few months to pair down cost of experiment. Other teams working on similar technology are funded to $2M or higher. I got costs down twenty times cheaper. In a case of failure about 30-50% of the money can be recovered through sale of the lab of equipment, rest goes on stuff salaries and premises. In a highly likely case of success of the experiment, sky is the limit. We are starting new aerospace industry from a scratch. I can easily organize other scientists who would be keen to peer review and repeat experiment so that experiment can gain acceptance by broader scientific community. In turn that would enable this project to attract bigger investors. Anybody inclined to financing this project or having ideas how to finance this project is welcome.

Currently three are three teams in US who are actively working on reverse engineering UFO technology. It is just a question of time when Elon Musk's SpaceX will be out of business.

Your thoughts, please ...

Is your price for a small test article or a full system?

Given modern 3d printing it should be possible to build a small test article that demonstrates some effect.

Just demonstrating any lateral or vertical force would be something.

spacecase0 · Jul 19, 2019

CasualBystander said:
Is your price for a small test article or a full system?

Given modern 3d printing it should be possible to build a small test article that demonstrates some effect.

Just demonstrating any lateral or vertical force would be something.

the test he says should not be very pricey

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