Will be releasing exact method of UFO propulsion very soon.

Gambeir

Celestial
Sure Gambier, That's exactly what it is. I'm too close-minded to Shut out those Evil evil scientists that do peer review, and Checkurkov is just too far beyond me to explain, That's what it is.. I mean it's not like I Can't recognize BS when I see it or anything. Look if this was tittley winks or monopoly or a fundraiser for mediocrity, Then I would concede the point, But this is physics, Something I know a little about,

I have zero doubts Thomas will have this all straightened out by the time I return.

Yea, just love to see that one, what with being so successful with your ion driven flying saucers and all.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
GTR maths brakes up before getting to quantum level. There will be nothing in peer reviewed literature.

Only help we have is taking real experiments by quack scientists and than weeding out good from bad with mainstream science.

Dr Alzofon was mainstream scientist that was refused to be reviewed by peer review system. He submitted they refused. It's catch 22++

Okay, I'm just saying, Time is a funny thing, I'll read up on this guy, But. The clocks ticking on this theory. Its legit pseudoscience and this is how pseudoscience spreads, If I have to deliver an L on this, I will.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
GTR maths brakes up before getting to quantum level. There will be nothing in peer reviewed literature.

Only help we have is taking real experiments by quack scientists and than weeding out good from bad with mainstream science.

Dr Alzofon was mainstream scientist that was refused to be reviewed by peer review system. He submitted they refused. It's catch 22++

Well that's right but Wheeler is no quack unless you think physical demonstrations and proven technology like a ferrocell is quackery. I told you all already, this is a new age and you can be on the leading edge and use your existing knowledge to help others understand to help make a change for the better for all humanity.
 
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Gambeir

Celestial
Okay, I'm just saying, Time is a funny thing, I'll read up on this guy, But. The clocks ticking on this theory. Its legit pseudoscience and this is how pseudoscience spreads, If I have to deliver an L on this, I will.

Let's work like we wanted to find an answer huh, instead of acting like I was trying to screw your mom in front of the kids.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Yea, just love to see that one, what with being so successful with your ion driven flying saucers and all.
No it's not that Gambeir, I'm a soft person really, But you are jamming this down my throat, YOu leave me no choice but to deliver the L on this one. I wanted to leave it alone, You are literally goating me into this, So, With no other choice, I will see this theory destroyed. If Thomas doesn't destroy it before I return.

I mean if you force a guy too, They have no choice but to defend their views, And I'm gonna burn this theory to the ground now. Beware the wrath of Shadows.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
GTR maths brakes up before getting to quantum level. There will be nothing in peer reviewed literature.

Only help we have is taking real experiments by quack scientists and than weeding out good from bad with mainstream science.

Dr Alzofon was mainstream scientist that was refused to be reviewed by peer review system. He submitted they refused. It's catch 22++
Yea, because what happens if suddenly Dejan can just fly his bathtub across the border, go where he likes, we can't have that. Next thing ya know there's no way to control and tax the little stooges and all the crooks will have to find real jobs.

I think you're gonna find that Wheeler he is a man first and second a serious person not easily dismissed, which far as I'm concerned would be a grave error to underestimate his capacity, but hell you go pull that tiger tail kid. Lol~
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I can't find any information on alexey checkurkov anywhere. Where are you guys getting your checkurkov information? Please don't say just his YouTube channel?
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Let's work like we wanted to find an answer huh, instead of acting like I was trying to screw your mom in front of the kids.
Also you need to learn how to be more polite to people that shit you just said there that doesn't fly with me... I'm going to say this as polite as I can. Fucking watch your tone with the me... Just because you've got an emo troll hardon doesn't give you a free pass to shit tàlk me. You're about to get smacked boy.
 
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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
I can't find any information on alexey checkurkov anywhere. Where are you guys getting your checkurkov information? Please don't say just his YouTube channel?

He looks to me as somebody who is not mainstream scientist, but solo amateur. Apparently his YouTube videos started about year ago.
 

Survivor

Adept
Check this link if you haven't. Some info about the guy. I hope the conversation doesn't get derailed by insults and such. It is fairly interesting.

 

Gambeir

Celestial
Can't explain it so of course it has to faked. Just got to be strings. Eat it then for all I care. I didn't post what I did so that I could enjoy listening to retarded idiocy. I can and have heard the exact same resistance and imbecilic dismissals before ya know. It's not like these idiot responses are new and shocking.

I posted the information I did in the hopes you might be open minded enough to help finalize a hypothesis of operation. Obviously I came to the wrong people.
 

Survivor

Adept
May I advise you to calm down a notch or ten? "I was hoping to finally create an echo chamber but alas." that's not really have proper discourse works. Both sides need to be open minded or it ends up like this. Don't get so offended over someone else's work and grow up a bit please.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
May I advise you to calm down a notch or ten? "I was hoping to finally create an echo chamber but alas." that's not really have proper discourse works. Both sides need to be open minded or it ends up like this. Don't get so offended over someone else's work and grow up a bit please.
It's his tone and choice of discourse that's upsetting,

TO be honest, Gambier can bring the entirety of http://www.energeticforum.com over here to attempt to virally spread This pseudoscience Bullshit theory, He's been discussing this for the greater part of a year now, No math has surfaced, The phenomenon can not be explained, Alexey Checkurkov can not be sourced, What Gambier is asking is for peoples minds to be is so open that they believe in the Magic and Bullshit fairy.

When you open your mind to bullshit, You fill it with bullshit. Where's the math? Wheres the explanation of how this phenomenon is carried out,?

He can fight he can defend, But he's sure as hell not going to Bully his pseudoscience Bullshit here. I'm as open-minded as they come, but no one person or group of people that magically appeared all at the same time, "CAN" put me in my place. If people want to spread pseudoscience here, then convince genuine physicists that this theory is legitimate, We need an Equation and Thesis on this. <----That isn't only fair to ask for, to attempt to give any other evidence is Deceptive.


Pseudoscience exists for one reason, To be stamped out with prejudice. It's ignorance that spreads.
 
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Survivor

Adept
He argues that asking for equations is absurd because the foundation of the said equations is flawed according to him. I understand this point and in turn ask him to provide the foundation so he can build his own, improved, equations that way. Maybe he would find this too difficult of a task or would argue that we are simply too stupid to understand the "Einstein is doo doo" theory. Either way, we can only go so far without actual math, and I haven't seen much of that in this drawn-out thread. No offense to Dejan.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
He argues that asking for equations is absurd because the foundation of the said equations is flawed according to him. I understand this point and in turn ask him to provide the foundation so he can build his own, improved, equations that way. Maybe he would find this too difficult of a task or would argue that we are simply too stupid to understand the "Einstein is doo doo" theory. Either way, we can only go so far without actual math, and I haven't seen much of that in this drawn-out thread. No offense to Dejan.
To be fair, I am beginning to see why this theory is going viral. fundamentally, it makes a lot of sense. In fact. I don't know If I can Disprove it.
TO be honest. I still have my doubts on this theory, But It's not the theory of a hack job, Whoever originally mastered this theory, Did know their science.

I still don't believe it. But, I can't disprove it.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
It's his tone and choice of discourse that's upsetting,

TO be honest, Gambier can bring the entirety of http://www.energeticforum.com over here to attempt to virally spread This pseudoscience Bullshit theory, He's been discussing this for the greater part of a year now, No math has surfaced, The phenomenon can not be explained, Alexey Checkurkov can not be sourced, What Gambier is asking is for peoples minds to be is so open that they believe in the Magic and Bullshit fairy.

When you open your mind to bullshit, You fill it with bullshit. Where's the math? Wheres the explanation of how this phenomenon is carried out,?

He can fight he can defend, But he's sure as hell not going to Bully his pseudoscience Bullshit here. I'm as open-minded as they come, but no one person or group of people that magically appeared all at the same time, "CAN" put me in my place. If people want to spread pseudoscience here, then convince genuine physicists that this theory is legitimate, We need an Equation and Thesis on this. <----That isn't only fair to ask for, to attempt to give any other evidence is Deceptive.


Pseudoscience exists for one reason, To be stamped out with prejudice. It's ignorance that spreads.

You're a religious zealot shadowprophet. Blind and convinced of the rightness of your beliefs. Einstein was an idiot, Tesla said he was, lots of people said he was.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow

That is how research is done. And you said it's a lifter.

This I leason to everybody why an open minded discussion is needed

Much more productive than quarrelling. We sort of ganged up on @Gambeir but he brought Alexy Checkurko to our attention.

Can somebody please explain the essence of electromagnetic working principle, without using word "gravity".
 
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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
He argues that asking for equations is absurd because the foundation of the said equations is flawed according to him. I understand this point and in turn ask him to provide the foundation so he can build his own, improved, equations that way. Maybe he would find this too difficult of a task or would argue that we are simply too stupid to understand the "Einstein is doo doo" theory. Either way, we can only go so far without actual math, and I haven't seen much of that in this drawn-out thread. No offense to Dejan.

I have a 2.5 experiments and math, all supporting each other. That's what I'm trying to bring a cross all the time.

Math helps a lot in proving a theory.
 
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