The alien says: 'Trust us'

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I think we would all eventually learn to trust the aliens but it would take years, maybe even a generation or two. Every time a big change is introduced into society like the telephone or the internet, for instance, it takes a long time before people finally become comfortable with it.

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
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Let me also point out that there are two sides promoting differing views on our ET visitors...Tom Delonge mentions sporadically about possible good ETs but makes it a point to say that the intelligence behind UFOs are negative but then we have Steven Greer who says that there may be some bad ETs but mostly ETs are good and we should be accepting of them...Does Greer sound like he's selling out humanity over wishful thinking or is Delonge being overly cautious?...

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We all seems to be fairly clever people here at AE.
Why would we need those two nitwits to make any interpretation at all?
 

michael59

Celestial
Last night I was thinking about my beloved friend, Margo and how much I miss her. I had this internal debate about how nothing I say, feel, or do is going to bring her back. That I was just feeling sorry for myself and just being selfish in general for wanting her to be here. I really feel that she was the only person that ever stuck by me unconditionally for 44+ years and so, yeah, I'm being selfish and feeling sorry for myself. Then I found myself saying out loud, "Hey, it's a dirty job but someones gotta do it."

There are human looking ET's and they have been here/coming here for quite some time now, so why haven't they stepped forward and tried to educate us on the differing species that we might be frightened of?

Please don't get your hopes up that this is going to some day be a beautiful day in the neighborhood where we all (ET & humans) live in harmony. I would never trust an ET. Not after what I have seen and experienced. I don't care what they look like. I think my fear of spiders comes from them. Maybe all my fears come from them...xxxx2.

After 50+ years of this bullshit.... I'm telling all of you, they are not here for the benefit of human kind. I've been saying that to each and every one of you people since the day we started corresponding.

Hey, it's a dirty job, but someones gotta do it. x11
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I'm telling all of you, they are not here for the benefit of human kind. I've been saying that to each and every one of you people since the day we started corresponding.

Hey, it's a dirty job, but someones gotta do it. x11

I remember the first time I started reading your posts and soon after we were conversing and soon after that this subject came up and you did tell me this and I think you're right...I think any benevolent aliens would naturally leave us alone if they happened chanced past our world, those types we don't have to worry about, it's the others who decided to meddle with us and stick around a while...I think it's a group of them, 5 or 6 different species with some sort of agreement between them, maybe that's why the world is so split, not just on our own account but because of these alien influences and their differences, who knows...I do not think any aliens getting involvement with us is going to benefit us, we aren't there yet to be seen as equals to them, we are an extremely clever and intelligent species but we are still young and primitive and our technology is still in primitive stages of development...

We cannot defend ourselves if they decided to fully occupy and take control of our planet but it is also possible we are already subtly under siege or under control by them...There's been a threat narrative that's being promoted lately and if there is a real threat coming or already here no doubt we will see it soon unfortunately...We may yet in our lifetime see that very first space craft land in full public view seeing them contact us and speak to us in front of cameras for the first time...If I hear those words "trust us" from an alien on a first contact situation like that I am going to cringe, and probably expedite plans to move to the remote areas of the mountains, just in case...

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pepe

Celestial
Predicting a line of technologies is akin to imagining a new colour.

If they have to ask, then it means they have issues we would relate to and that isn't a pretty picture. If they appeared in everyones' minds eye and announced their presence the PC brigade would have a rethink about safe spaces and we unite. In fact if this were to occur and after a peek they thought better of it, we would have our perspective more focused, some would think so in focus that they were now a conduit or the Messiah and a more intense and focused religious war would be created.

We bastardise like bastards.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
I think the visitors have been here, and interacted with people, for thousands of years. It is very safe to assume that how they are going about their business on Earth is working for them, otherwise they would change it. Ergo, it is safe to assume that aliens are going to continue to operate as they have always done, revealing themselves to selected people and intervening in human affairs on a small scale and selective basis. Whatever their motives are for coming here, and for whatever they hope to accomplish, disclosing themselves in a large and visible way doesn't serve those ends and so they have no reason to do it. Yes, things could certainly change in the future but none of us know what kind of impetus it would take to cause the aliens to change course.
 

michael59

Celestial
I think the visitors have been here, and interacted with people, for thousands of years. It is very safe to assume that how they are going about their business on Earth is working for them, otherwise they would change it. Ergo, it is safe to assume that aliens are going to continue to operate as they have always done, revealing themselves to selected people and intervening in human affairs on a small scale and selective basis. Whatever their motives are for coming here, and for whatever they hope to accomplish, disclosing themselves in a large and visible way doesn't serve those ends and so they have no reason to do it. Yes, things could certainly change in the future but none of us know what kind of impetus it would take to cause the aliens to change course.

I think they are changing it. I believe that is why we are slowly being introduced to military and government files. That's what scares me most. Whatever theory has been presented that might be the correct one it is not good for us. Not only will this be life changing, it will also be apocalyptic in proportion.

Yes, they have revealed themselves to some already. But, I believe we have all been tagged. If you could have seen what I have seen when taken by them. Thousands of us at a time maybe even more and that was dozens of times throughout my lifetime. Thousands of people in hypnotic state shuffling along slowly. Without any resistance. That could not have been just happening to me. It had to be happening all over the planet. We are all tagged by them in some form or another.

When I was younger, I was so ready to take it on. I wanted disclosure to happen. I might even say I was eager for it to happen. Now, at my age, with my failing health, I just hope it does not happen before I'm dead. I'm too young and stubborn to submit, but I'm not healthy enough to run or hide or squat to pee.

It's going to be like the Terminator movies, but much worse because this Terminator can appear out of nowhere. It can manipulate your thoughts. It knows what you are thinking and what you are going to do before you do it. Because that's what we do. We think it first and then we say/react that thought.

You don't even have to be physically strong. You have to be able to react without thinking about it. That's the only way we are going to get anywhere in this fight. You have to be ready, already. Practiced, like breathing or blinking or driving a car. Just do it don't think it.

There is nowhere to hide. Sorry, Nivek. The mountains won't hide you.

Make a plan. Practice it until it is second nature. Practice until you don't even have to think about it when it is necessary to react. If you have to think about first....it's already too late.

That's the only thing I can share that may be of some use.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
There is nowhere to hide. Sorry, Nivek. The mountains won't hide you.

Oh the mountains aren't for hiding from them, there is great power in the mountains, energy pockets, one can absorb some of this, refine it, use it...Also less people in the mountains lol...

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Hybrid734

Adept
I think they are changing it. I believe that is why we are slowly being introduced to military and government files. That's what scares me most. Whatever theory has been presented that might be the correct one it is not good for us. Not only will this be life changing, it will also be apocalyptic in proportion.

Yes, they have revealed themselves to some already. But, I believe we have all been tagged. If you could have seen what I have seen when taken by them. Thousands of us at a time maybe even more and that was dozens of times throughout my lifetime. Thousands of people in hypnotic state shuffling along slowly. Without any resistance. That could not have been just happening to me. It had to be happening all over the planet. We are all tagged by them in some form or another.

When I was younger, I was so ready to take it on. I wanted disclosure to happen. I might even say I was eager for it to happen. Now, at my age, with my failing health, I just hope it does not happen before I'm dead. I'm too young and stubborn to submit, but I'm not healthy enough to run or hide or squat to pee.

It's going to be like the Terminator movies, but much worse because this Terminator can appear out of nowhere. It can manipulate your thoughts. It knows what you are thinking and what you are going to do before you do it. Because that's what we do. We think it first and then we say/react that thought.

You don't even have to be physically strong. You have to be able to react without thinking about it. That's the only way we are going to get anywhere in this fight. You have to be ready, already. Practiced, like breathing or blinking or driving a car. Just do it don't think it.

There is nowhere to hide. Sorry, Nivek. The mountains won't hide you.

Make a plan. Practice it until it is second nature. Practice until you don't even have to think about it when it is necessary to react. If you have to think about first....it's already too late.

That's the only thing I can share that may be of some use.

I was taken this past Tuesday night. I was aboard a UFO. For some reason I can't remember anything about what the UFO itself looked like. Just the certainty that I was taken aboard. I met with 3 ETs. The strangest part to me was the fact that 2 weren't your cliche "greys". They looked like us. They could pass for a human without effort. They even spoke English - but when it came to using certain expressions or figures of speech, it would confuse them. Its a blur I can't remember much else, my emotions around them are always terror, confusion, nausea (caused by a sort of sense confusion), a sort of calmness that comes when you are in a really stressful situation and are weighing your options. I sometimes black out and wake up and black out and wake up over and over during these experiences.
 

michael59

Celestial
I was taken this past Tuesday night. I was aboard a UFO. For some reason I can't remember anything about what the UFO itself looked like. Just the certainty that I was taken aboard. I met with 3 ETs. The strangest part to me was the fact that 2 weren't your cliche "greys". They looked like us. They could pass for a human without effort. They even spoke English - but when it came to using certain expressions or figures of speech, it would confuse them. Its a blur I can't remember much else, my emotions around them are always terror, confusion, nausea (caused by a sort of sense confusion), a sort of calmness that comes when you are in a really stressful situation and are weighing your options. I sometimes black out and wake up and black out and wake up over and over during these experiences.

That's exactly what it's like for me most of the time. It isn't a fall asleep & wake up feeling. It's some kind of hypnotic state that you are put back into when they realize that you are lucid. They know you are weighing your options because they are telepathic. Anything you think about is pretty much useless because they already heard you. That's why I say to make a plan and practice it until it becomes automatic. I learned this the hard way. I killed one.

Okay, here's how it went...

I was sitting on my couch/sofa watching TV. It was getting late and I was ready for bed. I made a snack. A toasted tomato sandwich. I was wearing a baby blue T-shirt and a pair of underwear. As I took a bite of my sandwich, some of the tomato fell out of the toast (the jelled part with seeds in it) and landed on my shirt. I wiped it off with a napkin but, I saw that there was still a stain and made a mental note to myself to treat the shirt before I throw it in the laundry.

The next thing I know, I am standing in a very large room. There are entities all around me but, most are trying to stay out of my field of vision. I feel really hazy, as if I am waking up from a deep sleep, but I know it was something else. There is a creature, about 6 feet away moving slowly towards me, holding some kind of pointed tool or what I perceived to be a weapon and using a very threatening tone of voice. It was saying, "Don't move. Stay very still. Don't you dare move." I became completely alert and I immediately started weighing my options on how I would protect myself if it came any closer. I've taken many many different types of self defense courses in my lifetime. At one time, I was also a certified, licensed peace officer. I know how to protect myself.

I no sooner completed my thought when I felt a hand clamp the back of my neck and I felt myself slipping into that haze....but, whatever grabbed me didn't erase the thought I had just had. So, when I heard it say to the creature with the weapon, "Proceed". I bounced right back to full alert. I grabbed it's hand with my left hand, twisted it around, and pushed it into his chest. It didn't go very far so, I pulled it back and pushed it in again using my right hand to force it all the way into it's chest. It immediately fell to the floor and died. I remember at the time thinking how physically weak this creature was. It was like taking on a 2 year old human child. Again I felt the clamp on my neck and as I was slipping under, that same monotone, emotionless voice said, "You've got blood all over you." I said, "Could be worse. Could be mine."

I woke up in my own bed. It was morning. I jumped out of bed and immediately check out my shirt. It was clean. Not even a tomato stain.

That happened around 20 years ago and it still haunts me. I am not a violent person and to be perfectly honest, I have never had to used my training on anyone other than my sparring partner up until that occasion. I thought I was in mortal danger and acted accordingly. Yes, the law states that you can use equal force to defend yourself against attackers. We were about equal in size.

When I was 17, I was taught in women's self defense course to put your attacker down and run. Bullshit. You need to make sure that attacker, usually a male, is not able to get up and chase after you. You need to make sure he's hurt. This was not a man. It was a creature. I had no idea what it wanted or what it was capable of doing. I was scared and I needed to make sure it never got up again because in my mind, it was pure evil.

Hindsight is 20/20 but I believe it was the fact that I didn't think. I just reacted so, they had no advanced knowledge of my movements and that's how I got away with it. I also think that ET was a newbie and I was it's first assignment.

I've been having to deal with these beings most of my life. I don't want to burst any ones bubble, but they're all in it together. They know about each other, they have schedules and meetings. I've seen it. I was there and forced my way into one of those meetings. I do believe it was the only time, Fonsay ever stood up for me. I hate that guy. By the way, Hybrid734, he looks 100% human.

I've stood in huge rooms full of humans, hundreds of us, shoulder to shoulder shuffling forward in some kind of haze and the room is silent. All kinds of entities are spread throughout the crowd of human beings. IMHO, that makes them all guilty by association. All of them different sizes, shapes, colors and clothing/outfits. These entities may not necessarily like each other but, that's the way it is for all of us. We can't expect everyone we meet to become life long friends.

I wanted to say that if I stood by and watched as someone committed a horrendous crime I would be just as guilty but, I can't say that can I?

It happens everyday we let human traffickers cross our borders. It happens everyday a child gets beaten or molested, or starved, or abandoned. It happens when we are abducted. Ditto for animals. The statistics are staggering.

It happens because we, as a society, allow it to happen.
 

Cloned1

Novice
every human has a unique soul that’s been shaped by their experiences over a long period of time. but not everyone on earth has a soul because the earth has been infiltrated by aliens different kinds working together. we are heavily brainwashed to ignore unnatural behavior of others, highly placed peopleare really clones. earth is ruled by aliens not humans, the clone puppets obey their masters, cloning is what they are and is what they do. this is real.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
every human has a unique soul that’s been shaped by their experiences over a long period of time. but not everyone on earth has a soul because the earth has been infiltrated by aliens different kinds working together. we are heavily brainwashed to ignore unnatural behavior of others, highly placed peopleare really clones. earth is ruled by aliens not humans, the clone puppets obey their masters, cloning is what they are and is what they do. this is real.

Hello and Welcome to AE..q37

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michael59

Celestial
every human has a unique soul that’s been shaped by their experiences over a long period of time. but not everyone on earth has a soul because the earth has been infiltrated by aliens different kinds working together. we are heavily brainwashed to ignore unnatural behavior of others, highly placed peopleare really clones. earth is ruled by aliens not humans, the clone puppets obey their masters, cloning is what they are and is what they do. this is real.

Not so much brainwashed to ignore, we are taught from an early age that it is impolite or rude to stare or comment on unnatural behavior and differences in appearances of others.

I am completely baffled by this no soul theory. I was taught that everyone (humans) had a soul. I was taught that animals don't have souls. Then as I became older and spent time with animals I realized they too must have souls because they are just as unique as we are.

Where did this concept of a soul originate from, the bible?

I do believe they walk among us and have for a very long time. I can't say I know in what capacity or to what extent. I do know that they don't need our "permission" to do so.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
every human has a unique soul that’s been shaped by their experiences over a long period of time. but not everyone on earth has a soul because the earth has been infiltrated by aliens different kinds working together. we are heavily brainwashed to ignore unnatural behavior of others, highly placed peopleare really clones. earth is ruled by aliens not humans, the clone puppets obey their masters, cloning is what they are and is what they do. this is real.

welcome to AE!
do you have evidence that backs up this?
I am interested in learning more.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
every human has a unique soul that’s been shaped by their experiences over a long period of time. but not everyone on earth has a soul because the earth has been infiltrated by aliens different kinds working together. we are heavily brainwashed to ignore unnatural behavior of others, highly placed peopleare really clones. earth is ruled by aliens not humans, the clone puppets obey their masters, cloning is what they are and is what they do. this is real.

There's been a few abductees through hypnotic regression have stated something similar to this, referring to those without a soul as clones or copies of an original soul carrier...Others like Professor Corrado Malanga have stated findings through his research that the aliens are here because of our souls, the energies of our souls revitalize them and keep them young using technology to achieve this...Also many abductees have stated experiences which sounded like their soul was briefly removed and sent through tubes into another body for short periods of time, even alien bodies...

Here is a thread from an abductee who holds a similar view of these aliens:

Abductions: in-depth analysis

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nivek

As Above So Below
I think the visitors have been here, and interacted with people, for thousands of years. It is very safe to assume that how they are going about their business on Earth is working for them, otherwise they would change it. Ergo, it is safe to assume that aliens are going to continue to operate as they have always done, revealing themselves to selected people and intervening in human affairs on a small scale and selective basis. Whatever their motives are for coming here, and for whatever they hope to accomplish, disclosing themselves in a large and visible way doesn't serve those ends and so they have no reason to do it. Yes, things could certainly change in the future but none of us know what kind of impetus it would take to cause the aliens to change course.

This begs to question, what if we develop technologies that could detect them, expose them, or reveal their plans, would they take steps to ensure we do not develop such technology, or would they create a doomsday situation setting back mankind thousands of years?...How would they react to us becoming technologically advanced enough to meddle in their plans or would they react at all?...Perhaps they would simply leave us to ourselves and go away before being revealed?...

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nivek

As Above So Below
This begs to question, what if we develop technologies that could detect them, expose them, or reveal their plans, would they take steps to ensure we do not develop such technology, or would they create a doomsday situation setting back mankind thousands of years?...How would they react to us becoming technologically advanced enough to meddle in their plans or would they react at all?...Perhaps they would simply leave us to ourselves and go away before being revealed?...

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I guess this scenario could hypothetically be applied with the recent talk of TTSA and Project Serpo being in cahoots with one another, if this alleged Serpo is real...What if our government did have an agreement with some alien species and our developing technology was progressing to a point where we might detect them publicly, would they do anything to keep that tech from reaching public hands to protect their secrets?...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I guess this scenario could hypothetically be applied with the recent talk of TTSA and Project Serpo being in cahoots with one another, if this alleged Serpo is real...What if our government did have an agreement with some alien species and our developing technology was progressing to a point where we might detect them publicly, would they do anything to keep that tech from reaching public hands to protect their secrets?...

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I’m pretty certain Serpo is a Richard Doty creation. I think I heard Greg Bishop talking about this: use of something like Tor to mask origin but some data left in an email traced right back to Doty

I’ll see if I can find that reference
 
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