To The Stars Academy: Investigating the Unexplained

nivek

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Well see. It will probably die down soon if theres no follow up, and there usually isnt, not from the mainstream anyways. Even this admission would have remained in the dark, if Greenewald and others didnt do some pushing. Besides as long as its unknown, people can and will think its anything really, since unknown doesnt say much. They will fill those holes with their own truths. It could be aliens to some, it could be secret military craft to others or it could be hallucinations/misinterpretations to debunkers, depends whos looking at it. Thats how it always goes until theres something undeniable that removes all doubt.

IF there is some otherwordly presence here that wishes contact at some point, then id say yes, disclosure is inevitable at some point, unless we destroy ourselves first. It is as inevitable as growing to an adult. At the latest, it would happend when these others would reveal themselves to us in mass, no one could really deny that kind of a show. I sometimes think thats the only way this would happen, people and governments only seem to muddy the waters and argue around forever whose version of truth is more valid, like i mentioned before. And even after that theres probably gonna be some fringe groups who twist or deny the whole thing still, like religious fundamentalists or flat earthers. Never underestimate the power of denial. They dont matter tough in the big picture, the world can move on without them.

However we dont know what the offworlders timetable and requisitions would be for it, it could take the next 10 years or 1000 years. Maybe theyd want to check if we survive the hurdles that are coming, prove our worth so to speak. Just speculating here, but sapient species that is contact ready is probably preferred to show both intellectual, emotional and spiritual maturity to understand their responsibility in natures chain and protecting their planet and peoples, and technological prowess to start exploring the stars or creating AI. In that case wed be way off still.
I have a strong suspicion that any intelligent alien race visiting our planet and discovering that the dominant nation's primary occupation involves endless mass murder operations perpetrated under false pretenses, is a strong dissuasive factor in their decision to open a dialogue with us. And who could blame them?


I may be a fool for letting myself get excited about that kind of statement from Tom DeLonge, but deep down I'm too much of a hopeful optimist to deny that he probably has a good reason for saying it, and some compelling scientific findings via the ADAM Project would fit the bill perfectly.

Ultimately I'm going to have to see the science involved with that project, before I make a final decision about the significance of TTSA one way or the other. And so far every hint I've seen around the edges points to their key members believing that they have some exciting empirical research in the wings, perhaps soon to be released, at last...
 
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I have a strong suspicion that any intelligent alien race visiting our planet and discovering that the dominant nation's primary occupation involves endless mass murder operations perpetrated under false pretenses, is a strong dissuasive factor in their decision to open a dialogue with us. And who could blame them?


I may be a fool for letting myself get excited about that kind of statement from Tom DeLonge, but deep down I'm too much of a hopeful optimist to deny that he probably has a good reason for saying it, and some compelling scientific findings via the ADAM Project would fit the bill perfectly.

Ultimately I'm going to have to see the science involved with that project, before I make a final decision about the significance of TTSA one way or the other. And so far every hint I've seen around the edges points to their key members believing that they have some exciting empirical research in the wings, perhaps soon to be released, at last...

Thomas have you heard that Speigel and Vallee have been saying theres another group unrelated to TTSA thats also allegedly doing research on metamaterials or anomolous materials related to UFOs? What do you think of that?
 
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Also it might be that the "big news" Tom has been hyping is another season of the Unidentified....

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Didnt see that coming... no...
 
If thats coming, I hope they put a little more meat around it this time. Because if its average like the last show with nothing new following it, no metamaterials or anything again, id call it milking. What are they gonna put into that show now? Are they gonna go through all the old famous cases from Ufology starting with Roswell, that have been deliberated to death elsewhere already, or do they actually have something new to show? Something tangible that theyve hyped up recently?
 
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Thomas have you heard that Speigel and Vallee have been saying theres another group unrelated to TTSA thats also allegedly doing research on metamaterials or anomolous materials related to UFOs? What do you think of that?
I heard Vallee on Lee Speigel's new show, but I may have missed something, because I didn't get the impression that there's a coherent group outside of TTSA dedicated to conducting material analyses. But if that's what's happening, my first guess would be SCU.

Frankly I'm baffled that nobody is giving Jacques Vallee a hard time about withholding his lab reports about that anomalous finding with the Argentinian sample he described a year or two ago, which we talked about earlier, where three isotopes of an element were found in perfect thirds (which never occurs naturally).

In any case it feels like a story is going to break about this kind of thing - with Vallee and TTSA both talking about this subject lately, and both doing so in excited tones, it seems like the time is ripe for a bombshell revelation. But if something doesn't break by this time next year, I'm going to start collecting scalps, because the hype and anticipation is driving me nuts.
 

nivek

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I heard Vallee on Lee Speigel's new show, but I may have missed something, because I didn't get the impression that there's a coherent group outside of TTSA dedicated to conducting material analyses. But if that's what's happening, my first guess would be SCU.

Frankly I'm baffled that nobody is giving Jacques Vallee a hard time about withholding his lab reports about that anomalous finding with the Argentinian sample he described a year or two ago, which we talked about earlier, where three isotopes of an element were found in perfect thirds (which never occurs naturally).

In any case it feels like a story is going to break about this kind of thing - with Vallee and TTSA both talking about this subject lately, and both doing so in excited tones, it seems like the time is ripe for a bombshell revelation. But if something doesn't break by this time next year, I'm going to start collecting scalps, because the hype and anticipation is driving me nuts.

I would love to see the lab reports on Vallee's findings...Maybe JG should start beating on Vallee's door, geez, I hear he's now trying to take all the credit for the breaking stories from the Navy, saw something from Jimmy Church about having JG on his lame show pushing that narrative...

Yeah Delonge also said a big revelation was on the horizon, so I am expecting something sooner than later...

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Well him and Glassel did some pushing, i think they deserve some credit. No one of the mainstream media asked navy these particular questions. Not that surprised, most journalists are not doing their jobs anymore, at least not on this subject, they just sit tight to copy and regurgitate stories from others who have the guts to go in deeper, like in this case UFO researchers. Stigma and fear are still a good preventive for most to stay out.
 
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nivek

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Well him and Glassel did some pushing, i think they deserve some credit.

JG's campaign to discredit TTSA is the only reason he did any pushing...IMO

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nivek

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Oh no Seth, none of THAT will be interpreted as a red flag .......... BTW two of the three incidents shown are much more recent. Jesus.

Again, I want to make a longer post but right now what we know is that the Navy admits those are their videos and that they have no explanation for them. When I have referred to lack of provenance I'm not doubting they came from military sources but their origin, nature of their classification (or not), how they were treated internally and for what purpose remains unknown. Certainly there is something less than perfect clarity regarding the full story. I have heard what the witnesses have said.

I am referring to what the DoD or Navy is saying - which is what the big announcement is supposedly about. Is there any truth to the presence of Air Force officers aboard the Nimitz? I think that was part of more than one witness statement. Doesn't anyone find that odd? Has anyone been hammering the Air Force with FOIA requests regarding that?

Again, what we know for certain right now is that the Navy says the videos were theirs and that they do not know what has been depicted in them. Anything beyond that is conjecture.

Right now I'm a little underwhelmed by this 'huge' announcement. It and two bucks will buy me a cup of coffee. Maybe the steam was taken away because we'd all heard this before the Friday afternoon announcement. I probably won't be tuning in to Season 2 of the Unexplained. That I suspect was the big announcement.

Oh, and naturally their pending field app won't be freeware. Understandable and unsurprising. Surprise me. Make it free. I'll use it.

Regarding the video analysis. - absolutely inevitable. Clever folks have weighed in n both sides. Not being a photographic expert all I get from this is that there must be something to haggle over. Maybe not. What I clearly remember is Cmd. Fravor telling armchair experts not to run their mouths about stuff they know nothing about. I'd like to spread that thinly and evenly across BOTH sides of this issue.

As I've said I believe what the pilots and witnesses have said and unless there's some blatantly obvious flummery (like a tag stating it's a child's mummy) would prefer to simplify things and accept the versions as is. Can't happen in the real world but that's how I see it.
 

nivek

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I figured there were others anaylizing meta-material samples, I missed this one from a few days ago...

 
I used to to have a lot more respect for Seth, but unfortunately hes become a stubborn fossil, pretty biased in his views on this.

One can only hope some of the future SETI people will be a little more open minded to look into other possibilities. Silvano Columbano of NASA already suggested as much for future SETI endeavors. If you truly want to find aliens, you have to be willing to look under EVERY possible rock without prejudice, because sometimes new things can be discovered in the most unexpected places. SETI needs to evolve and expand its scope.
 
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JG's campaign to discredit TTSA is the only reason he did any pushing...IMO
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It's hilarious that JG's obsessive efforts to discredit TTSA have only yielded unprecedented levels of confirmation from the government. It's exactly the opposite of what he was hoping to find, but now he wants them to thank him for it, lol.

It seems pretty plain to me that he's talking about the results of the ADAM Project, because Steve Justice and Hal Puthoff have been the primary scientists working on that project and he applauds them by name here.

I don't think he's talking about a second season of Unidentified.

I used to to have a lot more respect for Seth, but unfortunately hes become a stubborn fossil, pretty biased in his views on this.
I think it speaks volumes that he's bashing this stuff at a thousand miles per hour as soon as the story broke: SETI is sweating bullets right now because if AAVs are visiting our planet (which it seems everyone but SETI already knows), they're dead meat.

Seth isn't kidding when he says that he's betting his paycheck on it. Once the mainstream accepts the presence of extraterrestrial technology operating in our airspace for the last 70+ years, SETI's funding will wither on the vine. I'm convinced that Seth is smart enough to realize that these TTSA revelations pose a real threat to his "Silly Effort To Investigate" (as Stanton Friedman loved to say), and he's pretending to be skeptical about it for purely selfish reasons. It's sad to see a scientist shun the courageous spirit of the scientific method to become a Machiavellian scumbag clinging to a tenuous thread of power for purely self-serving political reasons.

SETI needs to evolve and expand its scope.
I think our best chance for discovering exosolar civilizations around other stars will arrive when we can detect artificial light on the dark side of habitable planets. And SETI won't be a part of that research, so their days are numbered.
 

nivek

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Here's a great collection of fighter pilot UAP quotes put together by Andreas on The Unidentified site...

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FIGHTER PILOT UAP QUOTES ON THE RECORD

Since 2017 we have seen an upsurge in Navy Pilots coming forward to reveal there personal and frequent encounters with Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (unidentifiable objects entering military airspace). Here we are collating the continued testimony in one article.

(See the link)

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nivek

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By the way, there's a couple funny TTSA memes I posted in this link page below, I didn't want to fill this thread with it lol...

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