BTW whatever happened or will happen with TTSA, I still believe in the Nimitz and East Coast incidents, those stand with their own legs. But like Greenewald said its a sad thing theyve been kinda tied to TTSA and its reputation now, wherever it goes.
Agreed. There's a lot to unpack from all this. I doubt any of us would have predicted in Dec 2017 that Bob Lazar would have been the credulity torpedo that sunk TTSA. Or put a big hole in it anyway. Goes to show some things never change. There's some real irony in there if you want to ponder it.
I just listened to Fravor's interview, most of it anyway and no matter what I'm not having any trouble believing what he's saying. There is a history of very similar reports going back a long time but I am very reluctant to connect those dots for several reasons. We've had decades to chew that cud. With Fravor it's current, we can look at him, hear what he has to say, see the footage and make a better evaluation. A couple of points he has made are:
1) It knew where his CAP - rendezvous - point was and just appeared there. Not transited quickly, appeared.
2) It jammed his radar which Fravor described as 'technically an act of war'
3) They were just there to observe
Well, those two things require
awfully specific knowledge about our jets and systems.
He also said that 'one of Lue's men' took his report. Unfortunately the bearded chattering teeth was present during this interview because I was yelling at the dashboard of my truck '
when was that ????!!' but instead we're listening to nonsense. So apparently some entity, AATIP or it's predecessor, was doing just what they claimed they were doing.
I looked at their mandate to produce roughly three dozen papers, one of which was classified, of various esoteric topics. And at some point they were conducting witness interviews about sightings, probably a few years after the fact with Fravor from the sounds of it. I think AATIP had to have been a program involved with emerging drone and other 'unmanned aerial systems'. Other branches of the service may have had similar programs, probably did/do because we are seeing anti-drone systems beginning to emerge. A centralized database makes a lot of sense.
What's different now about all these decades past is that there really
are a lot of weird goddamned things flying around. The military has known that for quite some time and has to be concerned about the potential threats they can pose. Refer to the recent strikes on Saudi oil refineries. From the military's perspective I think it would be very dangerous to foster an environment in which an incident in which something odd seen near an asset would go unreported for fear of ridicule - the way it has been all these years. Today's environment is a different story. By default AATIP would probably also wind up being a collection point for what we'd call genuine UFOs. All we can do is guess whether it was a UFO program that included drones & balloons & UAS or the other way around. From the few docs we've seen it sounded more like the latter. When the Navy reissued their reporting guidelines this is what I had in mind. Historically our military has a record of being better prepared for the last war we fought not the next one so if they seem to be lagging in that respect it's par for the course. They would have done nothing had it not become public. The other branches of services haven't had anything to say on this as far as I know.
This is probably the kernel of truth that is underneath TTSA. Was it 'all about UFOs' ? I doubt it but also believe some good reports were also scooped up in the same net and yes, it was 'about UFOs' but maybe not to the extent we've been told. Doesn't really matter. I still can't rule out the possibility that what we've seen in those three videos are ours, some kind of national reconnaissance asset, because of what I mentioned above. It does sound far-fetched even to me but these things just may
not be what has been theorized. Alien spacecraft sounds far-fetched too. It's at least fair to leave the door open on both of those ideas.
I think TTSA feels it can say and do whatever it wants. It's perfectly happy to let us squabble over all the details - FOIA requests, drive systems, old cases. The more the better. In this arena you can throw whatever you want at the wall and enough of it will stick to attract a following. Chaos is creating publicity for them, accuracy is not important really. It sure looks like they're more interested in putting a fresh face on UFOlogy for the next generation and their own benefit than some altruistic desire for disclosure.