To The Stars Academy: Investigating the Unexplained

nivek

As Above So Below
Talk about throwing a curve ball, didn't see this one coming...

 

nivek

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From some of the comments, this seems to be a spoof account. It is not really TTSA.

Thanks, I didn't know that lol...

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Yeah, I thought TD had taken my advice and found better drugs.

Maybe the scientists and other sensible people in TTSA can figure out how to ditch the "entertainment" department. It's bad when the parodies seem like part of the usual show. Seems to be a trend nowadays.
 

nivek

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Business as usual for TD?...

 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
He's serving the same purpose the grounding rod is outside my house.
Difference is my grounding rod doesn't actively seek the lightning.
 

nivek

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FF to about the 1:28 mark and start listening. Time approximate, I was driving.

Fravor doesn't know UFO history and took Lazar at face value.

The kicker is Corbell explaining gravity drives and metamaterials. @Thomas R. Morrison I'd recommend a couple of stiff shots first if you try to listen to this .......


I was told Fravor wouldn't have been on Joe Rogan's show if it wasn't for Jeremy Corbell asking him a few times to go on with him...If that's true sounds to me like Corbell is trying to further validate Lazar's lies by riding the coattails of those who are more respected and had real and true experiences...

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nivek

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nivek

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Tom Delonge hasn't got the memo yet...:Whistle:

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Well maybe since it's his band, he can't be fired, but the band can certainly go form their own outfit. There is plenty of talent in that pool! They are the ones with the connections that matter. TD had and probably still has connections to people who could provide quick cash, but that does not seem to be working out very well. If the research department does not publicly condemn idiots like Lazar and his enablers, they are done. They are not stupid people. They know this as well as we do.
 
That "facts that can't be verified" canard is so transparent that no one with half a brain buys it. There are dozens of claims in Lazar's story that can be verified as pure bullshit. The evidence is overwhelming. It's like Billy Meier's "wedding cake" saucer; it's so silly it's not even a good joke.
 

nivek

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Ugh I hate it when people delete their tweets...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Distraction.

Fravor speaking with Corbell demonstrated something often overlooked. Fravor is a subject matter expert when speaking about aircraft and this specific incident. When he's speaking outside those areas the playing field is level with the rest of us.

Pilots have seen things that are well beyond current operational capabilities that aren't ET, although they didn't know it at the time. Suppose an early SR-71 had crashed and they recovery team missed a few pieces that wound up in a civilian lab. Materials science experts would probably be unable to control the orgasms.
 

nivek

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Here's a write-up from Robert Sheaffer on this TTSA/Lazar debacle:

"To The Stars" Covertly Publishes Bob Lazar's Book, and Buys 'Metamaterials' - from Tom DeLonge!

Some excerpts:
The important question now is: If even Stanton Friedman could definitively call out Lazar as a fraud, why is "To The Stars" destroying whatever credibility it might possibly retain by publishing Lazar's absurd hoax? The initial answer is, I think - TTSA deliberately obscured its connection with Interstellar Books, and hoped nobody would notice that connection. That way they could get the revenue from the book sales, and enjoy the indirect benefit of greater public interest in wild UFO tales, without having such a preposterous claim directly tied to them. Either "To The Stars" is too gullible to see Lazar's obvious hoax, or (more likely) they don't care, because they are a "multimedia entertainment company."

These "metamaterials" are of course also known as "Art's Parts," sent anonymously in 1996 to the late talk show maven, Art Bell of Coast to Coast AM. They have previously been examined, and appear to be a type of industrial waste from right here on earth. So, if you have "invested" in "To The Stars," and are wondering where your money went, a big chunk of it just went into the pocket of Tom DeLonge, for selling to his company supposed flying saucer pieces already in his possession. He sold them Art's Parts.

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Ron67

Ignorance isn’t bliss!
That "facts that can't be verified" canard is so transparent that no one with half a brain buys it. There are dozens of claims in Lazar's story that can be verified as pure bullshit. The evidence is overwhelming. It's like Billy Meier's "wedding cake" saucer; it's so silly it's not even a good joke.

I was an admirer of George Knapp as it was an article of his that I read at the start of this century that got me into the subject.
I was also cautiously optimistic about TTSA.
However due to Knapps continuing support of Lazar and TTSA promoting his book I find myself once again disillusioned by the whole thing.
I check out Alien Expanse most mornings but my interest is diminishing by the day.
 
Here's a write-up from Robert Sheaffer on this TTSA/Lazar debacle:

These "metamaterials" are of course also known as "Art's Parts," sent anonymously in 1996 to the late talk show maven, Art Bell of Coast to Coast AM. They have previously been examined, and appear to be a type of industrial waste from right here on earth. So, if you have "invested" in "To The Stars," and are wondering where your money went, a big chunk of it just went into the pocket of Tom DeLonge, for selling to his company supposed flying saucer pieces already in his possession. He sold them Art's Parts.
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I'm seeing a lot of descriptive reasons to conflate Art's Parts with the sample that TTSA has been promoting, but it's bewildering because the photographs of the samples they've been promoting look nothing like Art's Parts (except for the fact that they're both composed of layers). Look at the comparison:

Sample Comparison.jpg

I was an admirer of George Knapp as it was an article of his that I read at the start of this century that got me into the subject.
I was also cautiously optimistic about TTSA.
However due to Knapps continuing support of Lazar and TTSA promoting his book I find myself once again disillusioned by the whole thing.
I check out Alien Expanse most mornings but my interest is diminishing by the day.
The fact that TTSA is helping Lazar bilk gullible people out of their hard-earned money makes me bristle with outrage.

But TTSA has been a mixed bag from day one. At their public launch event we first encountered Lue Elizondo the former Director of the AATIP...and at the same event they used an image of a helium balloon as a UFO pic. Two months later they got a watershed article published in the NYT titled "Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program" that shocked the world with the dual revelations about the Pentagon's AATIP and probably the most important UFO incident in modern history, the USS Nimitz CSG case...but the "Glowing Auras" in that title turned out to be nothing more than ordinary IR glare. Now they're promoting a material which they assert has anomalous properties...at the same time they publish a fraudulent book by a proven fraud, Lazar. So the ambiguity here is nothing new.

I've been giving this Lazar book publication some thought, and my inclination is to put the blame squarely on Tom DeLonge's shoulders; in my view he's the credulous amateur in the company, and my gut tells me that he's the fool who thought that publishing some colorful lies (which he probably doesn't have the intellectual acuity to discern) would be a good idea.

And on the other hand we have Steve Justice, a former Lockheed Skunk Works advanced projects manager, leading the materials analysis. I've only encountered a few people in my life who project the kind of intellect that I see in that man, and they've never disappointed.

So while I'm pissed about this publishing atrocity, it doesn't change my gut instincts about the materials research - I think they've got something of interest there. I assume that we'll find out one way or the other, eventually.

But I think it's also important to distinguish the topic of AAVs in our airspace, from whatever the latest public theater is regarding the topic. Alien vehicles are navigating terrestrial airspace on occasion; that's monumental and a topic of enormous import for several reasons. If TTSA completely fails to move forward at this point, it won't change that fact. I was fascinated with this topic long before TTSA, and if they implode next week, I'll still be fascinated with this topic long after they're gone.
 
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Even if TTSA fails, it doesnt wipe out what came before them and likely will after. The phenomenon itself isnt going anywhere.

And yes, im also of the opinion that Tom made some kind of deal with Lazar back in 2016. Its shameful. His advisors probably arent happy with this, or maybe they are if it muddies the waters for them nicely. They should cancel the whole deal or at least mark the book in fiction department. Its pretty much caveat emptor territory, but since theres a sucker born every minute, people will buy it. Theres been rumors Tom will take the backseat for some time now, but his voice still echoes.
 
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pigfarmer

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@Shadowprophet just made a comment about 'monetizing the content' in a different thread that seems appropriate here. Unfortunately like Fravor with Corbell some good folks may have been swept along with the current.
As for TTSA's ongoing credibility, some will believe no matter what. Should they eventually produce something for us to examine the uphill hike towards general acceptance just got a lot steeper.

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